tree, gemba, ace, and others,
I appreciate the support and that is why I keep giving the information I receive out for all to view. Unfortunately, I am really getting sick and tired of people not only questioning me but others. a lot of these people are fools and never post games themselves. They never have anything positive to say only to bash people. I don't agree with what everyone posts and from time to time will voice my opinion but rarely do I attack the character of that individual. If they are taking the time to post tells me they have some geniune action to help others unless of course they are a tout. I have been posting for quite a long time now and it cracks me up that people give certain people a ton of credit who don't deserve it but give no credit or appreciation to the ones that who do. Unless you blow your mouth off and argue with people you don't get the attention. By posting this I was not looking for attention but to simply help others. I posted my plays in a seperate thread. I don't follow service plays or even BW plays but when I do my own homework and it matches with some one who deserves respect rather it be another poster or someone like BW, than I know this is a game to unload on. Nothing more nothing less. I don't change my opinion unless someone gives me real evidence to make the change. Sorry for venting but I do appreciate the feedback as I have seriously started to question why I even bother. LOL.
I appreciate the support and that is why I keep giving the information I receive out for all to view. Unfortunately, I am really getting sick and tired of people not only questioning me but others. a lot of these people are fools and never post games themselves. They never have anything positive to say only to bash people. I don't agree with what everyone posts and from time to time will voice my opinion but rarely do I attack the character of that individual. If they are taking the time to post tells me they have some geniune action to help others unless of course they are a tout. I have been posting for quite a long time now and it cracks me up that people give certain people a ton of credit who don't deserve it but give no credit or appreciation to the ones that who do. Unless you blow your mouth off and argue with people you don't get the attention. By posting this I was not looking for attention but to simply help others. I posted my plays in a seperate thread. I don't follow service plays or even BW plays but when I do my own homework and it matches with some one who deserves respect rather it be another poster or someone like BW, than I know this is a game to unload on. Nothing more nothing less. I don't change my opinion unless someone gives me real evidence to make the change. Sorry for venting but I do appreciate the feedback as I have seriously started to question why I even bother. LOL.
No one's bulshite is worth your nerves, and no, I am not implying that you are stressing over it. If someone has something negative to say, ignore their post and move on, it will be much easier that way because once these "negative" people see they are being ignored, they are less likely to come in and talk smack for if no argument insues, their point has failed and they will move on to someone else. If we can get everyone to have this attitude, shortly these people will be gone and we can focus more on the positive rather than dwell on the negative.
Thanks again, appreciate the efforts.
Treez
Thanks again, appreciate the efforts.
Treez
Kojak,
Jealousy is a beast......and for some reason, in this messed up world we live in now, many have this distorted idea that if they knock someone else down, they will in turn lift themselves up. The reality of it is that the reverse happens and they attract the same negativity and destruction that they attempt to throw on others. Keep the faith that good things happen to good people and continue to live better. This is the ultimate revenge against those that hate all those that enjoy greater success than they do.
Thank-you for your efforts..........many really do appreciate the effort!!!!!:howdy:
Jealousy is a beast......and for some reason, in this messed up world we live in now, many have this distorted idea that if they knock someone else down, they will in turn lift themselves up. The reality of it is that the reverse happens and they attract the same negativity and destruction that they attempt to throw on others. Keep the faith that good things happen to good people and continue to live better. This is the ultimate revenge against those that hate all those that enjoy greater success than they do.
Thank-you for your efforts..........many really do appreciate the effort!!!!!:howdy:
Kojak,
Keep the plays coming, ignore the bashers!
Billy is known to play with people's minds to inflate the lines in his favor. I think these are the games since I agree with most of them. I just hope they are not the teams he wants to deflate or inflate. I appreciate any and all "inside" or service info given.
One must realize that there are some people that will never be happy even if they won the lottery. These are the posters that you have to ignore when they try to get to you and bash you.
Keep all the picks coming and never quote your source directly!
Thanks,
gemba
Keep the plays coming, ignore the bashers!
Billy is known to play with people's minds to inflate the lines in his favor. I think these are the games since I agree with most of them. I just hope they are not the teams he wants to deflate or inflate. I appreciate any and all "inside" or service info given.
One must realize that there are some people that will never be happy even if they won the lottery. These are the posters that you have to ignore when they try to get to you and bash you.
Keep all the picks coming and never quote your source directly!
Thanks,
gemba
On a Wednesday afternoon, ever so casually, Billy Walters might tell Glen Walker to make a call over to the old Gary Austin Sports Book on the strip. "We want to lay $30,000 on Wisconsin giving 3 to Purdue," Billy Walters would tell him.
Walters knew that several wise guys would be passing time near the counter at Gary Austin's. And they would notice that the line favoring Wisconsin over Purdue would rise to 3 1/2 points. And they would ask who was responsible for moving the line, and they would be told the truth: That $30,000 had just been laid by the computer. And then..
The wise guys would bet on Wisconsin themselves. These wise guys would whisper to other wise guys. Tout services would hear that the computer liked Wisconsin. A run would begin on Wisconsin. News of Wisconsin would spread nationally. By the time word reached the man in Louisiana or the woman in Illinois, there would be no mention of the Computer Group. They would simply be told that they had better get something down on Wisconsin. You can see now that the betting market in Las Vegas is no different than Wall Street. Fed by rumor, speculation and greed, a stock like Wisconsin can grow hot for no substantial reason.
By Thursday or Friday, Wisconsin might be inflated to a 5-point favorite, 5 1/2 in some markets. At this point Billy Walters believed the price could rise no higher, and so he would marshal his forces: "Open order on Purdue taking 5!" In moments, they would be on their speed-dial phones, reaching every available source nationwide, betting as much as they could wherever Purdue was a 5-point underdog. They were a frantic yet focused group inside the "C&B Collection Agency," attempting to flood all the markets simultaneously, before the point spread could drop. Into one phone they would shout a few words and then hang up while dialing another number on another phone, back and forth, until they were frazzled. In two minutes Walters alone could place bets through a dozen beards or bookies.
So: On Wednesday they'd bet against Purdue. to lower its value in the market. Now on Friday they were buying as much Purdue as they could, a grand total of $1 million or more. And wouldn't you know it: Sometimes Wisconsin would beat Purdue by 4 and the Computer Group would win the "middle" - bets on both teams paying off in the same game.
Now and then, Billy Walters fooled his own employees. Glen Walker recalls more than one occasion when Arena Haaheim laid his own money on the first team (in this case Wisconsin) only to find out later in the week that the Computer had preferred the opponent (Purdue) all along. On Saturday they would sit in Billy Walters home and watch the game on television. "Arena, what's the matter?" Walters would say. "I don't see you cheering over there."
Walters knew that several wise guys would be passing time near the counter at Gary Austin's. And they would notice that the line favoring Wisconsin over Purdue would rise to 3 1/2 points. And they would ask who was responsible for moving the line, and they would be told the truth: That $30,000 had just been laid by the computer. And then..
The wise guys would bet on Wisconsin themselves. These wise guys would whisper to other wise guys. Tout services would hear that the computer liked Wisconsin. A run would begin on Wisconsin. News of Wisconsin would spread nationally. By the time word reached the man in Louisiana or the woman in Illinois, there would be no mention of the Computer Group. They would simply be told that they had better get something down on Wisconsin. You can see now that the betting market in Las Vegas is no different than Wall Street. Fed by rumor, speculation and greed, a stock like Wisconsin can grow hot for no substantial reason.
By Thursday or Friday, Wisconsin might be inflated to a 5-point favorite, 5 1/2 in some markets. At this point Billy Walters believed the price could rise no higher, and so he would marshal his forces: "Open order on Purdue taking 5!" In moments, they would be on their speed-dial phones, reaching every available source nationwide, betting as much as they could wherever Purdue was a 5-point underdog. They were a frantic yet focused group inside the "C&B Collection Agency," attempting to flood all the markets simultaneously, before the point spread could drop. Into one phone they would shout a few words and then hang up while dialing another number on another phone, back and forth, until they were frazzled. In two minutes Walters alone could place bets through a dozen beards or bookies.
So: On Wednesday they'd bet against Purdue. to lower its value in the market. Now on Friday they were buying as much Purdue as they could, a grand total of $1 million or more. And wouldn't you know it: Sometimes Wisconsin would beat Purdue by 4 and the Computer Group would win the "middle" - bets on both teams paying off in the same game.
Now and then, Billy Walters fooled his own employees. Glen Walker recalls more than one occasion when Arena Haaheim laid his own money on the first team (in this case Wisconsin) only to find out later in the week that the Computer had preferred the opponent (Purdue) all along. On Saturday they would sit in Billy Walters home and watch the game on television. "Arena, what's the matter?" Walters would say. "I don't see you cheering over there."
FWIW: BW sends out more fakes than a forward with no offensive skills. Buyer beware is all I am saying. Not trying to mock you kojak..just stating the facts. I could guarantee you that half the games you posted will have a huge move the other way:>Grin> why, you might ask...because I really do know:aktion033 or at the very least I am on the other side of half those games..just waiting for the right time to hop in and smash them
may all your plays be winners!!!!!
may all your plays be winners!!!!!
Kojak, Point wasn't to bash you or your plays in fact Omaha mentioned he is on a lot of these same plays and if you go into his threads I compliment him on a reg. bases..
I don't think I have ever posted in one of your threads in the past, so I don't know where you come up with me constantly bashing you or any poster when it comes to picking games.
Jealous of what? Don't know where that comes from either? Jealous that I didn't make a post that I had BW's plays? No, I would be embarrassed to post that I had BW's plays on tuesday, because anyone with half a brain knows that's not possible.
I don't think I have ever posted in one of your threads in the past, so I don't know where you come up with me constantly bashing you or any poster when it comes to picking games.
Jealous of what? Don't know where that comes from either? Jealous that I didn't make a post that I had BW's plays? No, I would be embarrassed to post that I had BW's plays on tuesday, because anyone with half a brain knows that's not possible.
underdog,
Obviously your reading skills need some improvement as everything you stated was not my words though you contend that they are. How is my posting info on BW any different than the large thread posted weekly where people share their information on service plays? Its not. I am not backing BW just simply stating what I know. Obviously, I am different from some of BW's plays if you took the time to read my own post. The more you speak the more I realize how little respect I have for you as it sounds like your the one with something to prove. I never said you were jealous or mentioned you by name in my reply but obviously you are concerned! I am not! If what you post is true about BW than simply use it as a tool to bet against instead of talking out of your ---! You simply could have more constuctively stated what you know about BW rather than starting and then continuing this nonsense. This will be my last reply to you unless you want to be a man and step up to the table. I will challenge you to a contest for the rest of the season as to who is the better handicapper. Gentlemen's bet. If are man enough to take it. We will set the rules to a certain number of games a week and let someone not involved to grade. If I lose I lose but at least I am man enough to put my reputation to the test. This will be a good opportunity anyway to get the respect without insulting and bashing others. Are you up to it?
Obviously your reading skills need some improvement as everything you stated was not my words though you contend that they are. How is my posting info on BW any different than the large thread posted weekly where people share their information on service plays? Its not. I am not backing BW just simply stating what I know. Obviously, I am different from some of BW's plays if you took the time to read my own post. The more you speak the more I realize how little respect I have for you as it sounds like your the one with something to prove. I never said you were jealous or mentioned you by name in my reply but obviously you are concerned! I am not! If what you post is true about BW than simply use it as a tool to bet against instead of talking out of your ---! You simply could have more constuctively stated what you know about BW rather than starting and then continuing this nonsense. This will be my last reply to you unless you want to be a man and step up to the table. I will challenge you to a contest for the rest of the season as to who is the better handicapper. Gentlemen's bet. If are man enough to take it. We will set the rules to a certain number of games a week and let someone not involved to grade. If I lose I lose but at least I am man enough to put my reputation to the test. This will be a good opportunity anyway to get the respect without insulting and bashing others. Are you up to it?
Kojak, I find it interesting to see what plays Billy Walters is on. Thank you for posting them. I also agree that the best option is to ignore those who make discouraging or disparaging remarks. Most people who are happy to see them will not bother to reply, but those who like to start trouble are quick to.
Good luck with your own selections this week.
Good luck with your own selections this week.
