Bills, Josh Allen agree to terms on six-year extension worth reported $258 million

[PatsFan1283]

A team from 1992 is going to be at a massive disadvantage against a team from 2014 on multiple levels that it isn't really worth discussing. That's ESPN topic level.

They beat Seattle, Seattle shutdown Peyton Manning in 1 of his best statistical seasons the year before, you think they can't get ahold of Doug Williams or Troy Aikman with rules favoring defense? Really? Lol, either way it is a pointless debate.

You do love that 100% term though

 

[exploited17]

A team from 1992 is going to be at a massive disadvantage against a team from 2014 on multiple levels that it isn't really worth discussing. That's ESPN topic level.

They beat Seattle, Seattle shutdown Peyton Manning in 1 of his best statistical seasons the year before, you think they can't get ahold of Doug Williams or Troy Aikman with rules favoring defense? Really? Lol, either way it is a pointless debate.

You do love that 100% term though

That was a different year
Seattle was significantly better that year than when Pats played them
Brady having to deal with rules that don't kiss his ass.If anyone gets near him...flag
Good luck pass rushing against 2 of the best O lines in history with Dallas or Washington
Much more well rounded teams offensively
BTW you arelloking at advantages for the 90s team but not offensively for the 2000s teams
They way you beat todays QB especially is pass rush
Especially with their average rushing game
Giants prove that
Bucs proved that against Maholmes
Brady would have been in serious trouble

 

[PatsFan1283]

Significantly better? sure, it was basically the same team

There would be a lot of advantages for modern teams as it relates to complexity of scheme, aggregate size/speed/skill of the players (Dallas huge OL is basically the norm now whereas back then they were more of an outlier)

Yes, Brady would have his work cut out for him more. He would still be the best QB in a game vs those teams by a mile.

Also, Michael Irvin would probably quit at halftime to smoke crack because Revis would shut him down so bad. You could go on and on....

You know who would really give the Patriots problems? The 70's Steelers, those 260 pound OLineman would've been too much to handle.

 

[exploited17]

Significantly better? sure, it was basically the same team

There would be a lot of advantages for modern teams as it relates to complexity of scheme, aggregate size/speed/skill of the players (Dallas huge OL is basically the norm now whereas back then they were more of an outlier)

Yes, Brady would have his work cut out for him more. He would still be the best QB in a game vs those teams by a mile.

Also, Michael Irvin would probably quit at halftime to smoke crack because Revis would shut him down so bad. You could go on and on....

I can't remember if all the players were there. But same players does not equal same team
Teams go to or win SB all thetime then disappear even with the same players
Some teams have the youth and hunger and just play well together one year and not the same the next
Pats played in a real shit division helping them get to the the SB with home advantage and then barely win pretty much every SB or lose to teams that were really notone anyone would consider even great let alone elite
At thevery least I wpould say those teams were more dom inant in those years in their era
But you are looking at it from a fans perspective
While I do like the Skins I also like the Pats and hate the Cowboys but as much as anyone I have seen all these teams being the Bills and Skins are my two favorite teams
I have seen these divisions as much as anyone
But, we all have opinions
Leave it at that

 

[PatsFan1283]

lol, they returned most of the starters and all of their elite defense and made b2b SB's...Their 2013/14 numbers were very similar despite starting off only 5-3 in 2014.

to pretend they were like some type of significantly diminished unit on their last legs seems pretty absurd

you are grasping at straws saying stuff that has no substance, you think the 2014 seahawks struggled with hunger?....it was a hell of an achievement to beat that seattle team, just shows your dug in bias now

but yeah i'm sure Doug Williams and a bunch of undersized OL's would fuck them up....Weird Gibbs 2.0 didn't have more success, eh?

 

[exploited17]

lol, they returned most of the starters and all of their elite defense and made b2b SB's...Their 2013/14 numbers were very similar despite starting off only 5-3 in 2014.

to pretend they were like some type of significantly diminished unit on their last legs seems pretty absurd

you are grasping at straws....it was a hell of an achievement to beat that seattle team, just shows your dug in bias now

but yeah i'm sure Doug Williams and a bunch of undersized OL's would fuck them up....Weird Gibbs 2.0 didn't have more success, eh?

For someone who doesn't even know who the QB of Washington was ....

 

[PatsFan1283]

sorry, Rypien

Either way, your points are bad and I think you kindof know that deep down

Pretending beating the Seahawks ain't shit, cmon man...Get the hate out of your heart, it just creates stupid bias feedback loops and we have enough of that going on.

 

[PatsFan1283]

I can't remember if all the players were there. But same players does not equal same team
Teams go to or win SB all thetime then disappear even with the same players
Some teams have the youth and hunger and just play well together one year and not the same the next
Pats played in a real shit division helping them get to the the SB with home advantage and then barely win pretty much every SB or lose to teams that were really notone anyone would consider even great let alone elite
At thevery least I wpould say those teams were more dom inant in those years in their era
But you are looking at it from a fans perspective
While I do like the Skins I also like the Pats and hate the Cowboys but as much as anyone I have seen all these teams being the Bills and Skins are my two favorite teams
I have seen these divisions as much as anyone
But, we all have opinions
Leave it at that

I'm not looking at it from a fans perspective, that's just an easy copout so you don't have to consider the substance of my points. I don't really care about laundry that much.

I just think your point lacks logic.

If anything given your Bills fandom, I think you are the one that is probably tugging on the heart strings too much. You never see me in tit for tat NE conversations unless I just feel like someone is wrong about something.

I'd legit rather die a painful death than be biased about laundry. Not getting any coin off the jersey sales when grown men put another mans name on their back, trust me.

 

[exploited17]

sorry, Rypien

Either way, your points are bad and I think you kindof know that deep down

Pretending beating the Seahawks ain't shit, cmon man...Get the hate out of your heart, it just creates stupid bias feedback loops and we have enough of that going on.

Not what I said
BTW they shouldn't have even won
Smarter coaches and schemes but one of the dumbest play calls to lose a SB you should have won
But nice losses to Giants...twice

 

[PatsFan1283]

Not what I said
BTW they shouldn't have even won
Smarter coaches and schemes but one of the dumbest play calls to lose a SB you should have won
But nice losses to Giants...twice

You are just showing your bias, close football games come down to 50/50 plays at the end. Did you see the catch Kearse had to setup putting them at the 5? Tyree catch? Shit happens in 50/50 games.

You know who plays a lot of close games? Teams that compete for superbowls for 19 years straight, but only 1 team did that so it is just tough for people to sortof analyze and process, thus we get stuff like "this team should've won" "that team should've won" with no mention of all the times that stuff worked against NE (which you probably don't even remember as when a team wins 6 no one really thinks about the near misses much)

Taking advantages of your opponents mistakes or seizing opportunity any chance you can get is basically what situational football is, I dunno why people can't grasp that.

 

[PatsFan1283]

I think the statement you are looking for is something like "Dallas, Washington, 9ers had higher ceilings than NE" since they beat their opponents by more.

Yeah sure, but that has more to do with modern football than the actual teams themselves. They would still get worked if transported to 2015. Belichick shutdown Montana in the 80s at his apex, doubt he is losing sleep over Aikman and Rypien when he has defensive talent at his disposal, don't see it.

If Revis gets to play D like they did in '92, Michael Irvin's prop is legit 19.5 and I might still bet under. Works both ways.

 

[Willie99]

Well,they actually own 2
One is 4 straight SB losses
But the other is 4 straight SB

While it would have been nice to get 1 I would say that is pretty resilient

And not only that but 3 of the teams they lost to would have beaten any of those Pat teams
And the Pats lost to Eli Manning ....twice

Bawawawawa

0-4 is 0-4, this is a no spin zone. And Belichick shut them down

Listen, I get it, after two decades of being beatdown, you're desperate for a change

Maybe after Mac Jones retires

Damn, I thought I was responding to Mr Love

Et tu exported? Condolences

 

[Willie99]

69-77

dude

The whole football universe knows the truth, time to accept reality

 

[SheriffJoe]

Brady is the GOAT.

Belichick is the GOAT.

Arguing which one is better, is like saying x lawyer is than better than x doctor. Two completely different professions and totally useless debate, although PatsFan and I gave it the ole college try. lol

One thing you can take to the bank - and I'll bring this back to topic of this thread - Mac is isn't even half the QB Allen is, and YET...he'll probably have more success than Allen.

Why? Because Belichick is the GOAT - master football strategist, disciplinarian, teacher, and tactician who knows how to construct a football team, whereas whoever the hell is in charge in Buffalo (Beane? McDermott, Daboll?) does not.

For Bills fans, this must be a very painful realization since the Bills were supposed to dominate the AFC East for the next 10 years. And yet, here we are again - Pats are top of the division looking like the most dangerous team in football right now peeking at just the right time.

How did this happen?

Bill Belichick is the GOAT and Pats are in first.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

 

[Avocado33]

Patriot derangement syndrome

 

[Dr.Love]

0-4 is 0-4, this is a no spin zone.

The whole football universe knows the truth, time to accept reality

69-77

69-77 is 69-77, this is a no spin zone.

 

[Dr.Love]

the Bills were supposed to dominate the AFC East for the next 10 years.

They will. And let's call in 9 now. Since the Bills kicked the shit out the of division last season. It counts.

 

[Dr.Love]

Pats are top of the division

That's false. Buffalo currently leads the AFC East. Currently own the tie breaker with the 3-0 division record.

 

[SheriffJoe]

They will. And let's call in 9 now. Since the Bills kicked the shit out the of division last season. It counts.

With virtually no running game and arguably the softest line in football (both sides of the ball)?

I guess you gotta cut corners when 1/4 of your cap is chewed up by one player.

 

[Dr.Love]

With virtually no running game and arguably the softest line in football (both sides of the ball)?

I guess you gotta cut corners when 1/4 of your cap is chewed up by one player.

Don't forget the coaching mismatch.

Bill Burr >>>> Mr. 69-77