JJGOLD......................i know the type of person your using as an example, of this "betting while broke"........
babe, i promise you they dont do this on a regular basis......
several reasons
1. this style of betting will destroy you emotionally
2. to be successfull gambling you have to leave emotions out of it.
3. these type of people RARELY WIN, therefore they end up in so much debt they eventually cant "hustle it up"
babe, i promise you they dont do this on a regular basis......
several reasons
1. this style of betting will destroy you emotionally
2. to be successfull gambling you have to leave emotions out of it.
3. these type of people RARELY WIN, therefore they end up in so much debt they eventually cant "hustle it up"
Ahem..as an east coaster...
I would like to believe/surmise/hope that jjgold is trolling up one massive load of bullcrap, to cajole some unsuspecting newbies to make their entrance into the gambling world as the most generous unwilling philanthropists one could ever hope against, to feed the bookmakers' wallets that may in turn be used to feed the sharps and responsible value players.
Either he is really, REALLY braindead to think that reckless risktaking is a sign of machismo, or he has some truly sinister motive in mind.
Dumb -5000
Sinister +4000
I would like to believe/surmise/hope that jjgold is trolling up one massive load of bullcrap, to cajole some unsuspecting newbies to make their entrance into the gambling world as the most generous unwilling philanthropists one could ever hope against, to feed the bookmakers' wallets that may in turn be used to feed the sharps and responsible value players.
Either he is really, REALLY braindead to think that reckless risktaking is a sign of machismo, or he has some truly sinister motive in mind.
Dumb -5000
Sinister +4000
JJ:
Listen to dime here, he's right.
You're talking sick gambler stuff here. The guys will beg borrow and steal.
Eventually, they can't pay, so they bitch out to their wife, who calls the cops, and the books gets their door kicked down.
Upon settlement the next week the gambler who ratted will claim he's owned money cause all 6 of plays won, and how did he know the guy answering the phone was a cop?
Bad advise JJ.
Listen to dime here, he's right.
You're talking sick gambler stuff here. The guys will beg borrow and steal.
Eventually, they can't pay, so they bitch out to their wife, who calls the cops, and the books gets their door kicked down.
Upon settlement the next week the gambler who ratted will claim he's owned money cause all 6 of plays won, and how did he know the guy answering the phone was a cop?
Bad advise JJ.
As someone who has bet money he doesn't have and can't pay back if he loses once or twice
, I can say I feel more comfortable doing that than betting with a "clean" bankroll.
There is clarity under pressure. I know exactly what I need to do and how to do it. Without the pressure, I know exactly what I need to do but have trouble coming up with a gameplan.
That's why I can win when I have to but rarely win when I don't need to. How else could you explain me hitting Level Two back when I had credit card debt in the low four figures just as often as I hit Level One now?
Could never reach Level Three then and can't hit Level Two now.
There is clarity under pressure. I know exactly what I need to do and how to do it. Without the pressure, I know exactly what I need to do but have trouble coming up with a gameplan.
That's why I can win when I have to but rarely win when I don't need to. How else could you explain me hitting Level Two back when I had credit card debt in the low four figures just as often as I hit Level One now?
Could never reach Level Three then and can't hit Level Two now.
JJGOLD..................alright i hate to bring this sh*t up ........but the last person who gambled this way that was on my book got his life so screwed up he ended his life prematurely...........the sad thing is JJ, that he was such a "hustler" and a go-getter that i nor his family knew he was in so deep, until it was much too late..........those "hard" people you say you know..............tell me if there still around in a couple of years ok.............
Dime is right, sure you can take a shot, if you lose you put together as much cash as you can, and slow pay the rest, I know I have done it, loan companies, pay advances, family, friends etc. Problem is that only lasts so long, pretty soon you run out of places to go to borrow. Now you come to a cross roads you either smarten up having leared a hard lesson or you end up like the guy Dime talked about, it happens everyday. Go to any Gamblers Anonymous meeting a listen to the stories. That is why the offshore post-up explosion is actually a good thing for problem gamblers, you have to have it to play it. A two dime bet is a two dime bet wether you posted up hard earned money or are in a position to get credit for the money. In both cases you will be paying attention to the score. You are not necessarily stand up if you bet money you don't have, but you are if you take care of your obligations like a man.
wil.
wil.
I have to admit I have done some stupid stuff in my time when younger. Of course I have outgrown it as I wised up but yes I have bet with money I didn't have. I always saw the game as a winner so I would think of that instead of thinking how I would pay if I lost. I always managed to scrape it together but I sure got myself into some predicaments from time to time. Had to swallow my pride a few times and that was worse than anything.
I would guess a whole lot of gamblers have bet with money they didn't have at one time or another if they are honest. Mine was when I was a kid but I can't say it didn't happen. One thing no one can say is I have never stiffed one person out of a quarter, even if cost me a dollar to get that quarter. Did it make me tougher betting when broke? I'm not sure if it did or not but it made me smarter. Smart enough to realize there is no future in it.
I would guess a whole lot of gamblers have bet with money they didn't have at one time or another if they are honest. Mine was when I was a kid but I can't say it didn't happen. One thing no one can say is I have never stiffed one person out of a quarter, even if cost me a dollar to get that quarter. Did it make me tougher betting when broke? I'm not sure if it did or not but it made me smarter. Smart enough to realize there is no future in it.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick McIrish:
I have to admit I have done some stupid stuff in my time when younger. Of course I have outgrown it as I wised up but yes I have bet with money I didn't have. I always saw the game as a winner so I would think of that instead of thinking how I would pay if I lost. I always managed to scrape it together but I sure got myself into some predicaments from time to time. Had to swallow my pride a few times and that was worse than anything.
I would guess a whole lot of gamblers have bet with money they didn't have at one time or another if they are honest. Mine was when I was a kid but I can't say it didn't happen. One thing no one can say is I have never stiffed one person out of a quarter, even if cost me a dollar to get that quarter. Did it make me tougher betting when broke? I'm not sure if it did or not but it made me smarter. Smart enough to realize there is no future in it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just out of curiosity, how long ago were yor younger days?? In all honesty I have 1 of the most negative approaches to gambling that there can be
I have a lot of confidenc in any picks that I make but I ALWAYS prepare for the worst (assume I will lose). The reason why is simple. If I win I am extremely happy. If I lose, I expected to lose anyways, so who gives a shit
I imagine it's impossible to think like that though if you are betting with money you don't have
I have to admit I have done some stupid stuff in my time when younger. Of course I have outgrown it as I wised up but yes I have bet with money I didn't have. I always saw the game as a winner so I would think of that instead of thinking how I would pay if I lost. I always managed to scrape it together but I sure got myself into some predicaments from time to time. Had to swallow my pride a few times and that was worse than anything.
I would guess a whole lot of gamblers have bet with money they didn't have at one time or another if they are honest. Mine was when I was a kid but I can't say it didn't happen. One thing no one can say is I have never stiffed one person out of a quarter, even if cost me a dollar to get that quarter. Did it make me tougher betting when broke? I'm not sure if it did or not but it made me smarter. Smart enough to realize there is no future in it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just out of curiosity, how long ago were yor younger days?? In all honesty I have 1 of the most negative approaches to gambling that there can be
Lou - dimes is not the Devil. Trust me, not even close. This guy has contributed all year for us squares down in the RR, you think Fred would want to do that? Plus I have their IP #'s, LOL. Two different guys.
Valdosta - smart approach you have on gambling and no doubt the correct one. When I refer to me being a kid I am talking about around 18-22 I suppose. I am 42 now and will be the first to admit I had a lot to learn back then. In fact still learning. Some are probably smarter than others I suppose. Made decent money back then but liked to gamble. There was no consequences I just wanted action, money would always be there for me I assumed. I always thought I would win and yes made some bad decisions. If you were always smart enough to avoid it I commend you for it, some are. I was around gambling my whole life but learning to protect the bankroll took me a while, had to lose it a few times before I realized how precious it was. I'm not embarrassed at all to admit I learned some things the hard way, was part of a good education.
Valdosta - smart approach you have on gambling and no doubt the correct one. When I refer to me being a kid I am talking about around 18-22 I suppose. I am 42 now and will be the first to admit I had a lot to learn back then. In fact still learning. Some are probably smarter than others I suppose. Made decent money back then but liked to gamble. There was no consequences I just wanted action, money would always be there for me I assumed. I always thought I would win and yes made some bad decisions. If you were always smart enough to avoid it I commend you for it, some are. I was around gambling my whole life but learning to protect the bankroll took me a while, had to lose it a few times before I realized how precious it was. I'm not embarrassed at all to admit I learned some things the hard way, was part of a good education.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick McIrish:
Lou - dimes is not the Devil. Trust me, not even close. This guy has contributed all year for us squares down in the RR, you think Fred would want to do that? Plus I have their IP #'s, LOL. Two different guys.
Valdosta - smart approach you have on gambling and no doubt the correct one. When I refer to me being a kid I am talking about around 18-22 I suppose. I am 42 now and will be the first to admit I had a lot to learn. Some are probably smarter than others I suppose. Made decent money but liked to gamble. There was no consequences I just wanted action, money would always be there. LOL. I always thought I would win and yes made some bad decisions. If you were always tooo smart for it I commend you for it. For me I'm not embarrassed at all to learn some things the hard way, was part of a good education.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, I am not to smart to go on a losing streak and lose $$$. I just haven't been gambling long enough to have a REALLY bad run yet
I am only 26 years old and have gambled for a little over a year and a half. I have learned some stuff even in that relatively short amount of time (compared to you). I absolutely suck at betting every sport except 1 sport in which I consider to be my expertise area. I lost a little in baseball, basketball and football last year. I easily cancelled it out with my boxing winnings. Even after that though I continued betting other sports this year until I lost 1/5 of what I had won this year on boxing...ALL IN 1 WEEKEND !!
Anyways, after that I have finally learned my lesson and haven't bet any other sport since then (and have won a good portion back).
Lou - dimes is not the Devil. Trust me, not even close. This guy has contributed all year for us squares down in the RR, you think Fred would want to do that? Plus I have their IP #'s, LOL. Two different guys.
Valdosta - smart approach you have on gambling and no doubt the correct one. When I refer to me being a kid I am talking about around 18-22 I suppose. I am 42 now and will be the first to admit I had a lot to learn. Some are probably smarter than others I suppose. Made decent money but liked to gamble. There was no consequences I just wanted action, money would always be there. LOL. I always thought I would win and yes made some bad decisions. If you were always tooo smart for it I commend you for it. For me I'm not embarrassed at all to learn some things the hard way, was part of a good education.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, I am not to smart to go on a losing streak and lose $$$. I just haven't been gambling long enough to have a REALLY bad run yet
