betting ATS streaks

AfraidOfBush · Mar 30, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sound of Silence:
It's the Martingale method, and it has proven over and over again in Roulette, Blackjack, Sports gambling, etc, etc... that it is not profitable in the long-term.

It's the type of method that you hear guys at the bar talking about on how its foolproof - which is why you know its a surefire way to not win long-term.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Martindale ruined almost as many lives as Bush.

Fezzik · Mar 30, 2004

This strategy is a beginner strategy.

Actually, the concept of fading teams on ATS streaks is a decent basic strategy. But the bet sizing is truly idiotic. If they win 6 in a row we bet 1 unit against theem. If they win 9 in a row we bet 8 units against them. So we are not playing with EIGHT TIMES the perceived edge we had earlier? And we don't even have to bother analyzing situations/matchups/etc.?

Wink Martingale systems work great. For scamdicapper money managers. Find unsophisticated, mathematically less inclined clients and "sell" silly systems that are "guaranteed" to win most of the time.

By the way, anyone familiar with Rob Singer's "Undeniable Truth" Video Poker book has the idea. To summarize, Rob

1) Plays negative expectation games
2) Avoids the use of a slot card
3) Makes idiotic basic strategy mistakes like keeping A over small pair in bonus games
4) Increases his unit size after losses
5) Quits a casino as soon as he gets ahead there.
6) Quits a trip as soon as he reaches his trip goal.

He does this over and over and over and over. Winning all the time.......according to him. The secret appears to be that he returns to Arizona to "tag the building" so that when he returns to Vegas he can start a "new" progression fresh. So what that every bet has a negative expectation? He plays short term (over and over and over and over). But by focusing on short term expectations he is able to show a summation of negative expectations yields a positive expectation.

This guy (and guys like him) are dangerous as they rip the unsuspecting public off who "trust" him to be an expert, not knowing how terrible this guy really is. Is he just an idiot? Or a guy that knows the truth but lies? Only Rob Singer knows "The Undeniable Truth" about this

What's amazing is that when confronted Singer will talk about how wrong all the experts are. Never mind that if we went to any Univerity in the U.S., grabbed ANY math professor and asked him to independently evaluate whether Singer's methods would work, 99% plus of them would say no. But Singer (who is no rocket scientist) will claim that all that math gets in the way of "common sense".

My undeniable truth: Check your wallet whenever you deal with this Scam Artist.

TheGeneral+ · Mar 30, 2004

This season, assuming a 1 unit wager at a 6, you would be approx +26.4 on sides & + 40.2 on totals. You would have laid 7, 16 unit bets to make this profit.

Fishhead · Mar 30, 2004

Singer is a total goon that isnt even worth talking about.

mvbski · Mar 30, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Avoids the use of a slot card
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>just this rule alone tells you he has no clue

SoundofSilence · Mar 30, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> You would have laid 7, 16 unit bets to make this profit.
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Which shows you are 1-2 losses away from being broke. Again, the system isn't profitable long-term... There's really no sense in debating it.

TheGeneral+ · Mar 31, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by wilheim:
Somebody forgot to tell the Golden State Warriors they're a bad team. They're currently riding the NBA's most profitable streak with seven straight up (SU) and against the spread (ATS) victories in a row. The Warriors play at Philly tomorrow, no line yet because of the AI situation.

wil.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Was this not classic NBA or what? LOL

Big line swing as AI announces his not playing and phily cruises.