Betphx acccount issue.......acct appears to have been hacked

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On March 24th I logged into my Bet Phoenix account to see an available balance of $8. I was expected more like $3K. Talk about a WTF moment. I clicked on "pending wagers" and saw a bunch of pending 3, 4 and 5 team parlays. I never bet parlays. The very idea of betting 4 and 5 team parlays repulses me.

Anyway, I contacted them immediately and also started a thread over at Sports Book Review (SBR). I subsequently filed a complaint with SBR.

Initially, I thought that things would be OK. There had been 3 other SBR posters who had had a similiar experience. Someone broke into their BetPhoenix account and maliciously lost their money by playing Blackjack like an idiot in their casino (for example, hitting on 18). I had seen those posts and had disabled my casino access. I guess that's why the hacker placed stupid parlays instead. I thought that the fact that parlays were still pending was going to save me - WRONG!

BetPhoenix claimed that they saw only my IP address as having logged in (lies). Later they claimed that I had clicked on a malicious link on 2+2, and that this led to my computer being hacked. Now they are back to the original story - that no hacking occurred!

They refused to even cancel the parlays which consisted entirely of games which had not even started when I contacted BP to tell them about the hacking. To give you an idea of how ridiculous they have been, there were 4 and 5 team parlays where all of the games started at least a full 36 hours AFTER I had contacted them. They still waited for all of the parlays to wind up losers and THEN told me that they could not be cancelled.

BetPhoenix is an extremely shady book with many, many serious issues being discussed over at SBR. I would reccomend that anyone STAY AWAY from these thieves. This is hands down the worst experience I have ever had to deal with as an online gambler, and I have experienced quite a few fiascos (sportsbook correlated parlays, Neteller debacle, etc.)
 

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u need to forward your info to wilheim and i'm sure he can assist..

it also lets us legitimize your complaint, since you are a first time poster
 

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also changed the title from the accusations against BP until we get some verification
 

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Oh, this issue is pretty much closed as far as BP is concerned. I filed a formal complaint with Sports Book Review back in March. A couple of days back BP let me know that they are keeping my money, so I am getting the word out to the gambling community to avoid these dishonest incompetents.

This is what I was initially told by SBR:

"There was a link between both accounts that originated from the 2+2 forum. Both players (unexpectedly) clicked on a tracking cookie that then allowed the same attacker to access both accounts. SBR has made 2+2 aware of malicious javascript posted on its forum before in a similar past dispute."

Later, BP went back to claiming that there was no hack. I am not sure where the info about the malicious link at 2+2 was supposed to come from, and why BP and SBR refuse to discuss its origins. I suspect it is because I asked BP "then why have you been telling me all of this time that only my IP address shows up in your logs?". It seems they tried to craft an acceptable lie that would have covered their earlier lies, but failed. So they won't talk about it anymore.

Anyway, you can read all about it over on SBR. I am NOT trying to pimp that site, but there is just so much more info over there and it would take me hours to fill it in. If you are interested, and have the time, all the info is over at SBR.
 

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If you are being truthful (which I have serious doubts, sorry), then i'm sincerely sorry. This is my worst nightmare as an offshore player with vast sums tied up in offshore accounts.


However, I don't see any incentive in hacking an offshore account, aside from being a huge dick to someone for no legitimate reason. The only people who could benefit from hacking an account would be BP, and i highly doubt (and hope) they wouldn't engage in such activities.

I made a post on this forum a few weeks ago about potential employees on offshore sportsbooks writing down login's and then fucking with them in the future. That is always a possibility.
 

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If you are being truthful (which I have serious doubts, sorry), .


I understand how you feel. I used to feel the same way when I saw such claims. There are at least 3 other people who had their accounts hacked and posted about it over at SBR though. Two of them received full refunds from BetPhoenix.

However, I don't see any incentive in hacking an offshore account, aside from being a huge dick to someone for no legitimate reason. The only people who could benefit from hacking an account would be BP, and i highly doubt (and hope) they wouldn't engage in such activities.

It was either a hacker who was just doing it to be a dick, or a disgruntled employee/ex-employee. I really believe it was someone who did it to make BP look bad. I think BP knows they have security issues and they have tried to cover it up. That's why I call them thieves. They know I didn't place those bets, but they don't want to come clean on the problems they are having because it will be so bad for business.


I made a post on this forum a few weeks ago about potential employees on offshore sportsbooks writing down login's and then fucking with them in the future. That is always a possibility.

Yes, BP is one of those books which does not encrypt customers' passwords in their database. In fact, when you call them the CS rep often asks for your password to verify who you are. Letting every CS rep see every customer's password is such a terrible system. In addition, up until a couple of months ago, BP had the customer's password in the site URL when you logged in! Their security really is a joke.

Three other people have been hacked. Two were 100% reimbursed, although it took them months to get their money back.

Another guy requested a cashout via Moneybookers. An impostor who somehow knew he had requested a Moneybookers cashout then contacted BP via live chat and requested that the cashout be sent out to a slightly differnet Moneybookers email account. Incredibly, BP just went ahead and did it. When this poor guy inquired where his cashout was, they told him that they had already sent it! It took him months to get reimbursed as well.

It is pretty clear they have issues with rogue employees/ex-employees. There are too many complaints that smack of being inside jobs.
 
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Since this the 3rd time I have seen this Story, at 3 different places. :ohno:

Let's get to the Bottom of all this....... I have an opinion on the whole thing, but I will hold on to Judgement, until I hear the 100% truth.

And even though you did Not sign up with BP through the RX, or a RX member until Today

Send an Email to Wil at person19481950@yahoo.com

Try to give the the Short version for now, and include your acct # name, etc...
Because if anyone can do anything for a Player, Wilheim Can.

And if it was a Scam of some kind, he will come out and tell you.

It's Not 100%, but you can sure Bet your Bottom dollar that he will try to help.
 

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kGambler, if your story has ANY merit, don't resist help. This isn't joe blow offering you assistance, this is some one that absolutely can make difference for on your behalf. Email Wilheim (Wil) at the address BetAllSports given you above... All hope is not lost if you haven't used all your resources.. You are apart of theRX Community and to that, there is advantages....
 

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The account was not hacked at all. The account was entered into via log and pass. This customers CC charges that funded the account were refunded in full. Funds in the account beyond that were paid out.
 
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Thank you Richard for Clearing this Up.....Thought something wasn't right with the Story.

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I am sure he will be back to tell you otherwise...Regardless he was refunded in full on account deposits this issue was derived from. Maybe he got hacked, who knows, but I can guarantee we did not. Wil can come here to verify anytime he wants. We have an open door policy with places like the RX and SBR.
 

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betphoenix has been getting many complaints lately especially over at SBR, it's really hard to know who is telling the truth in this situation but this seems to not be an isolated incident. The account hacking problems seem to primarily be with moneybookers... but it is an issue.. Also, there seem to be slow-pay issues with BP.. Players are saying Checks seem to be taking weeks to receive and money transfers which usually only take 24 hours or less are taking up to a week to receive. Also for some reason BP's manager has stopped posting at SBR for some strange reason.. I used to play there but with all the recent issues i'm going to have to pass on BP and stick with no issue books like 5dimes..
 

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Regarding BetPhoenix

I really do not have anything to add to the account hacking and it is highly unlkely I would be able to get BetPhoenix to change their ruling on this particular case.

However that case aside, players are getting paid in a timely matter now by several different means and there are no more delays or problems with withdrawals at BetPhoeix.com. I received several requests for help and they all have been resolved. Some were for large amounts of funds that are now resolved and the other couple were for lessor amounts that were also resolved.

I have had posters from SBR contact me and was able to help them get their problems resolved very promptly. I don't expect all of you to believe me but that goes with the territory, I have the emails to prove the claims I have made and that is what counts.

I don't read SBR but am told that there are also reports from players being paid there also. I have have dealt with all kinds of posters in the seven years I have been a mod here and some are straight shooters who will give a book credit when it deserves it while others love to play the opposite role and only criticize books even when they are not involved in the cases being discussed.

I no longer let posters who haven't a clue what is really going on bother me anymore. BetPhoenix is paying players promptly, I know this because I get no more complaints and am in touch with BetPhoenix management quite often which keeps me updated with what is really happening with their withdrawal processing.

Kgambler, I am sorry to hear your computer was hacked into and as far as I am concerned you can blame it on BetPhoeinix all you want as that is your prerogative.

Personally I try to accept responsibility and blame for my own misfortune when it occurs. To each his own.

Thanks, wil.
 

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Yes Richard, I will always make sure to clear up any misinformation you attempt to spread about my case.

The account was not hacked at all.

This is the current company line. In fact, BP used the same company line against 3 other victimes, 2 of whom you eventually refunded in full. But if this is the truth, why did you tell the following to SBR:

"There was a link between both accounts that originated from the 2+2 forum. Both players (unexpectedly) clicked on a tracking cookie that then allowed the same attacker to access both accounts. SBR has made 2+2 aware of malicious javascript posted on its forum before in a similar past dispute."

That is some very specific information you gave SBR. Where did it come from? Both BP and SBR refuse to tell me where BP came up with this idea, or why BP has backtracked from it. I suspect is has to do with the fact that I pointed out that this story does not jive with your earlier claims of only seeing my IP address.

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This customers CC charges that funded the account were refunded in full. Funds in the account beyond that were paid out.

I had $3K stolen from me. Due to an accounting error, I was able to steal $2K back. I have told this story in full on 3 sites already, but here we go again... There is so much minutiae in this case that I guess I will continuously have to explain it in detail, to expose your transparent lies.

When the hacker/rogue employee broke into my account I had about $4K in pending bets. They were NCAA Tourney futures bets. The hacker/rogue employee placed bets early on the morning of Tuesday, March 23rd. Notice how quickly these bets were entered.

Early Tuesday morning (from 2:15 AM to 2:24 AM):

2:15 $200 straight bet
2:17 $250 straight bet
2:17 $250 straight bet
2:17 $250 straight bet
2:17 $250 straight bet
2:19 6 team parlay
2:20 6 team parlay
2:23 $200 straight bet
2:23 $200 straight bet
2:23 $200 straight bet
2:23 $200 straight bet
2:23 $200 straight bet
2:23 $200 straight bet
2:24 6 team parlay

Some of these bets were graded Tuesday night. He lost $183 with these bets. I didn't notice because I did not log in at all on Tuesday. Early Wednesday morning he again went into my account and risked my entire available balance, save $8.

Early Wednesday morning (4:13 to 4:17 AM):

4:13 4 team parlay
4:15 5 team parlay
4:16 4 team parlay
4:17 3 team parlay

I logged into my account shortly before 7:00 PM on Wednesday night. I was shocked and confused to see an available balance of $8. Imagine my surprise when I clicked on "pending wagers". Needless to say, I contacted CS via live chat right away. I also immediately created a thread on SBR, because I knew that other people were dealing with the same issue over at SBR, and some had not been paid yet. I did it to time stamp my reporting of a hack.

Despite the fact that most of the parlays consisted ENTIRELY of games which had not even started yet, BP waited until all of the games were complete (and all parlays were confirmed losers) before informing me that the bets would stand. For example, that $500, 6 team parlay consisted entirely of NCAA tourney games which were played on Friday, March 26th - a full two days after I reported the hacking! Instead of cancelling these bets, BP free rolled me.

I had filed a complaint with SBR in late March. "Lou" over at SBR was assigned as the point man. He is the only one I communicated with.

On April 12th I was shocked to see activity on my debit card, by BP's payment processor. I know that BP has had many problems (I can post the proof here) with customers' credit cards being charged by BP's processor, even though the customer did not initiate a deposit (more malicious rogue employee/ex-employee type behavior). So I mistakenly thought that my debit card had been hit with 4 $500 ($2K total) CHARGES. In fact, they were refunds. I contacted BP and SBR. BP told me that my BP account showed no activity, so that if I just sent them the info, they would make sure the charges were reversed. SBR contacted BP and was told by BP that there was no corresponding activity in my BP account, and that they would contact the processor to reverse the charges.

Well, I copy and pasted my bank account activity and sent it to BP so they could reverse the charges. As soon as I hit send, I realized that these were CREDITS, not debits. These 4 $500 credits showed up variously on April 7th and 9th, so they must have been initiated about a week before. I immediately sent another email to BP, Richard and SBR saying that I had just realized that these were CREDITS. I also mentioned that maybe this was the rogue employee's work? After all, no one at BP or SBR knew anything about any activity in my BP account.

Richard responded to me (imagine my surprise) with this email. This is not a selected quote, this is the entire text of the email:

"I asked for the refunds to aviod future problems with the CC's on your account."

Does this sound like they were intentionally reimbursing me? It sounds more like they had waited until my pending wagers had cleared (resulting in $3300 in my account) and had then intiated a refund of my credit card in order to avoid me hitting them with a chargeback (something an irate customer who is owed money might do).

So I followed up with this email:

"What kind of problems?

Is this $2,000 going to now be subtracted from the balance of my
account? I can't log in now. I assume you have locked my account?

Can I call you sometime tomorrow? I would like to talk to you about my case."

Richard went back to ignoring me, so I never got an answer.

On May 6th, almost a full month later, I contacted BP via live chat and asked for my balance. They told me $3,300. Yeehaw, those morons forgot to subtract the $2K! I withdrew it all. Due to slow pay issues at BP, I did not get all of my money until the beginning of June. At this point I posted in the SBR thread, which had been open and active since March 24th, in order to inform people of what had happened; that due to gross incompetence by BP I was able to steal back $2K of the $3K they had stolen from me. When this sank in with Richard, he then came forward to claim that this $2K was given to me on purpose. This was a blatant and transparent lie. Consider these facts:

- No one ever told me that the $2K was put back on my debit card as some kind of arbitrarily decided partial refund

- No one ever told SBR

- No one ever told BP employees

- All the while, the thread about my BP hack was raging and for 5 weeks and BP never thought to mention that I had in fact been partially refunded???

Richard responded by saying that he had contacted SBR and told them to tell me that the $2K was meant for me as a partial refund. That's funny, SBR never told me anything about that. And when I contacted SBR to tell them of the activity on my debit card almost 2 weeks after those refunds would have been intitiated, they knew nothing about it!

So to believe Richard, you have to believe:

1. his original explanation ("I asked for the refunds to aviod future problems with the CC's on your account") was a lie

2. that he never told his own employees

3. that he never told me

4. that he never mentioned it to the SBR community, although I was publicing saying that BP owed me $3K right up until June, when I got my money out

5. that he told SBR, but they somehow forgot to tell me. Furthermore, that SBR somehow forgot about it when I contacted them after seeing the credits on my account

6. that $2,000, which just happens to be the total amount I ever deposited to BP via my card, was chosen as some kind of arbitrary amount to refund me

These are the kind of ridiculous lies I have been dealing with since March.
 

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I really do not have anything to add to the account hacking and it is highly unlkely I would be able to get BetPhoenix to change their ruling on this particular case.

However that case aside, players are getting paid in a timely matter now by several different means and there are no more delays or problems with withdrawals at BetPhoeix.com. I received several requests for help and they all have been resolved. Some were for large amounts of funds that are now resolved and the other couple were for lessor amounts that were also resolved.

I have had posters from SBR contact me and was able to help them get their problems resolved very promptly. I don't expect all of you to believe me but that goes with the territory, I have the emails to prove the claims I have made and that is what counts.

I don't read SBR but am told that there are also reports from players being paid there also. I have have dealt with all kinds of posters in the seven years I have been a mod here and some are straight shooters who will give a book credit when it deserves it while others love to play the opposite role and only criticize books even when they are not involved in the cases being discussed.

I no longer let posters who haven't a clue what is really going on bother me anymore. BetPhoenix is paying players promptly, I know this because I get no more complaints and am in touch with BetPhoenix management quite often which keeps me updated with what is really happening with their withdrawal processing.

Kgambler, I am sorry to hear your computer was hacked into and as far as I am concerned you can blame it on BetPhoeinix all you want as that is your prerogative.

Personally I try to accept responsibility and blame for my own misfortune when it occurs. To each his own.

Thanks, wil.


Thank you. That is very fair. I am glad you will let me continue to tell my side of the story. Your forum members can decide for themselves what to believe.

In the interest of getting all of the available facts out there, I've compiled a kind of "greatest hits" of BP's recent issues with competency and integrity. I have removed the links to SBR threads, because I don't know if that is allowed here, but I left the thread titles.

1. A customer requests a payout via Moneybookers through the live chat. A scam artist posing as the customer later goes into livechat and requests that BP change the Moneybookers payment to a different account with a very similiar email address. BP inexplicably goes ahead and sends the money to the second account. Just one of many inside job/rogue employee thefts that you will see in this list. The customer was eventually reimbursed in full, but it took months.

Betphoenix - my story related to security issues and slow payments.

2. Currently slow paying. Currently unable to send checks, although their website claims that check withdrawals are still available and that they only take 3-4 business days.

Too many current threads to list!

3. This is what happened to me. Someone logged into my account (you will see that this happened to at least three other people) and made enough 3, 4 and 5 team parlay bets to bust my entire available balance. BP initially said my account was not hacked, then said it was, then went back to saying it wasn't. Despite the fact that many of these parlays consisted entirely of games which were not close to starting when I alerted BP to the hacking, they waited until all of the parlays were losers, then informed me that they would not cancel any of them.

My BETPHOENIX ACCOUNT HAS BEEN BROKEN INTO

4. A customer opens his account to find 7,000 Euros missing. It turns out a hacker is playing like a maniac (hitting hard 18s, soft 20s, etc.) in the casino at the same time the customer is contacting CS to find out where the hell his money went. Months later, this customer was able to get a full refund. This, after BP told lies that only his IP address showed up in their system as having logged in. Poster "Marauders" also posts in the thread to say that the same thing has happened to him. BP has refused to reimburse Marauders for his phantom casino losses. Also in this thread, the amazing revelation that a customers password is contained in the URL when they log into BP's website.

7000 euros missing from betphoenix account

5. A pending bet simply disappears from a customers account. Have you ever heard of something so ridiculous? Other than having your money simply disappear from your account (see above), this is one of the worst problems I have ever heard of occuring at any sportsbook. How can you trust a sportsbook where bets disappear from their database. BetPhoenix actually admits that the bet did disappear from their database. They tracked down the bet and put it back as pending. Amazing! Multiple people (including myself) had earlier had experiences where winning wagers seemingly disappeared into thin air. You can read about that in this thread too.

More Bet Phoenix skulduggery

6. A player logs into his account and notices that $3,400 is missing. He contacts CS and is told that he lost it in the casino. Sound familiar??? Again, it was a hacker who played crazy in the casino. This customer received a 100% refund. Actually, this thread is where Marauders first posted that his account was also hacked - all the way back on February 8th. They gave Marauders the run around until June 2nd and then told him they wouldn't reimburse him for his "losses".

Help! Account problems at BetPhoenix

7. Many posters question this guy's story, but here it is... This guy became a BP agent. His players won a bunch of money, and after only 4 weeks the agent requested a complete withdrawal of all funds. It's safe to say that this behavior must have pissed off BP. Take my advice, don't make BP or any of their employees mad if you have a nice balance there. This agent made arrangements to personally pick up his $24,470 withdrawal in CA. He then asked BP if his brother could make the pick up instead. BP said "no problem". BP informed the agent that he needs to use a password at the pickup. They gave the agent the password over the phone. 30 minutes later, before the agent even has a chance to relay the info (including password) to his brother, the agent calls BP to inquire if the money is ready yet. BP informs him that the agent's "brother" has already arranged a meeting, provided the password, and collected the $24,470.

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Another real doozy...

8. A Bet Phoenix customer has his credit card charged by BP's credit card processor, even though he never made a deposit. ttaylor89 cut and paste this, apparently from another forum. He pasted all of the thread comments (again, from some other forum) in page 4 of the "My BETPHOENIX ACCOUNT HAS BEEN BROKEN..." thread. It's kind of messy though, so I am just putting the pasted live chat here.


michael : this one on the 3rd of march i need to know about

Kathy: That transaction does not have an amount on it?

michael : yes it was deposited from my account for $500

Kathy: ok thanks, please allow me one more minute, I am with accounting on the phone

michael : the thing is that i didn't approve this transaction at all!

michael : let them know that

michael : i use a debit visa card and i check my online bank balance this morning and it showed a transaction from you guys for $500 on march 3rd

Kathy: Ok Michael, the situation is the following

Kathy: There was a system error at the processor that provoked a few charges by mistake, they are aware of this and they have started the process for the money to be credited back to your bank account / credit card

Kathy: You can contact your bank to know exactly when the money will hit your account, please do not mention that this transaction is for gambling purposes

michael : are u serious?

Kathy: just tell your bank that you are expecting a credit back from Virtual Web Card Luxemburg from a online purchase that you made

Kathy: and that you need to know when will it arrive

Kathy: I apologize for the inconvenience, the processor is taking care of that

michael : can u forward email to sam

Kathy: sure, I can inform Sam about the situation

michael : this is unreal

michael : if i never caught this you would have taken 500 from me

Kathy: as I am telling you there was a system problem at the processor

michael : this is very unprofessional of you guys

Kathy: and they fixed it right away

Kathy: the money is on the way back

michael : i am really upset that you guys would do this to me

Kathy: unfortunately we do not handle the processor's situations

michael : how long will it take to get my money back

Kathy: it is a total different company

Kathy: that will depend on your bank, you can contact them for that information

Kathy: tell them that you are expecting a credit back from Virtual Web Card Luxemburg from a online purchase that you made

Kathy: you should be receiving it this coming week

michael : i need that money now

Kathy: The money is already on the way, I apologize for the inconvenience



They also flat out told me in chat (when I was asking about my account being hacked) that several customers had their credit cards charged when they hadn't deposited! Look for the red quotes...

Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Wendy'
Wendy: Hello. How may I assist you?
Mike: Hi Wendy. My account was broken into. I am supposed to talk to Derek about it.
Wendy: one sec please
Mike: Thanks
Please wait while I transfer the chat to 'DerekB'.
You are now chatting with 'DerekB'
DerekB: Hello Mike, let me transfer you to my one of my managers who was looking into the matter.. thanks
Mike: OK, thanks
Please wait while I transfer the chat to 'Jason'.
You are now chatting with 'Jason'
Jason: hello Mike
Mike: Hi Jason. Can you tell me what you see for the IP addresses?
Jason: XX.XX.XXX.XXX
Mike: Any others??? What are your findings?
Jason: give me a sec
Mike: OK, thanks
Jason: i cant see anything else
Jason: but i dont have that kind of access either
Mike: What is being done about this?
Mike: I want the $183 in losses refunded. I want the pending wagers that I did not place cancelled. I want my account closed
Jason: this issue just happened today..and we need to investigate
Jason: it
Jason: i just need your patience
Jason: inorder to rectify this situation
Jason: i understand how you feel
Jason: i have clients that feel the same way
Mike: OK, so you are still investigating. Sorry, I am getting worried because you tell me you only see 1 IP address.
Jason: but they all are giving me the time
Jason: like i said i only see a limited access to Ip addresses
Mike: I have no problem with giving you time to investigate.
Jason: give us some time
Mike: Do you know about how long it will take?
Mike: Also, could you do me a favor? I can not log into my account now, which is how I want it. But I would like for you to email me the wagers that were places on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Mike: *placed
Jason: ok hold on
Jason: ok i have to get access to copy that from your account from our IT dept
Jason: give me an hour or so
Jason: ok
Mike: OK, thanks
Mike: Did this happen to more clients this week???
Jason: thats what we are finding out
Jason: some are having issues with credit cards being charged
Jason: so we need to see if these guys have the abilty to hack us
Jason: so bear with us
Jason: i have a few more clients to talk with
Jason: you need anything else
Mike: OK, thanks for telling me. I will check the card I used. I see now why you need more time to investigate if there are other cases. I will look for your email later. Thanks for the help and I will contact you later
Mike: goodbye
Jason: good bye
Chat session has ended.


Incredible! These are some of the absolute worst problems that I have ever heard a book having. I mean, does it really get any worse than this?
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I hope I have provided enough of the whole picture so that people can understand why I don't just assume the hacking was some problem on my end.

1. these kind of things seem to happen at BP a lot

2. I live only with my wife. She doesn't gamble. She is afraid to gamble. She has never heard of a "parlay". She can not place the bets that quickly. Even I could not place the bets that quickly, even if I tried.

3. just like the other victims, none of my other accounts was effected. BP is one of my smallest online accounts.

4. the people who were hacked did not know each other, and even live on at least 2 different continents

5. BP told me that I had clicked on a malicious link over at 2+2, allowing someone to break into my account. Supposedly "Marauders" (SBR poster) was also a victim of this same hacker. Then that story just mysteriously went away. They flatly refuse to discuss it.

BP has never provided me with one shred of data. I would be a fool to assume that some random ninja hacker somehow hijacked my IP address and targetted my BP account.
 

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