No Ken, I respect your honesty. Everyone took a hit on this one. It is tough to judge when it went to hell. But everyone who I know said they were shocked to see it crumble so fast without warning. Talk about a catch 22. In order to reach a level of profitability to make it worth your time, you need a lot of outs. But having a lot of outs increases your chances dramatically of being in a Bet Pan Am. I think I am so gun shy about taking that hit I really limit funds to the edge. I keep enough to run, but nothing excessive. At least I limit exposure to the next no one saw it coming...Best Wishes...OF