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LeBron is still the best all-around player in the game, though his time is running out. KD is right behind him at #2.

I think Kevin Durant is better but then Kevin playing with a stacked team and has that luxury. When you play on a great team you look better so maybe Lebron is still number one? Barely. I can see that argument about Lebron still being number one. I'm very curious how he plays next season.
 

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James is obviously one of the top but if u can't make the playoffs how can you be the best?
 

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I'm tired of seeing Warriors win, especially now that they have that bitch Durant.

I want to, no, I NEED to see a good story, a shocker, some high level of play and underdog story, coming out party (coming out party as in playoff success) for somebody like Giannis or preferably Harden where they upset the Warriors. Maybe even the Celtics. It can happen. Doubt it but I hope so. I don't take the Raptors or Sixers or the other teams seriously.

Portland if they still had Nurkic maybe. Too bad about that.

I want to see a shocker though damnit.
 

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Can Giannis or Ben Simmons shoot yet??

You will see how good Philly thinks Simmons is when his ass get's traded - they built a team to compete for a title - when they can't get to the title game something has to be changed - and it ain't gonna be Embid
 

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You will see how good Philly thinks Simmons is when his ass get's traded - they built a team to compete for a title - when they can't get to the title game something has to be changed - and it ain't gonna be Embid

Feels like Embiid might not be too long for the game unfortunately. They pushed all-in pretty fast on the Harris/Butler trades, gaveup some good young players that were on cheap contracts and both guys are FA's in a few months.

Makes you wonder if they think the window with him is pretty small. He's hurt right now and it isn't even an injury, just "knee soreness" but he's been out for most of the last 2-3 weeks.
 

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I'm tired of seeing Warriors win, especially now that they have that bitch Durant.

I want to, no, I NEED to see a good story, a shocker, some high level of play and underdog story, coming out party (coming out party as in playoff success) for somebody like Giannis or preferably Harden where they upset the Warriors. Maybe even the Celtics. It can happen. Doubt it but I hope so. I don't take the Raptors or Sixers or the other teams seriously.

Portland if they still had Nurkic maybe. Too bad about that.

I want to see a shocker though damnit.

It'd be fun to watch the Warriors go down, but it's not gonna happen. Not until KD leaves
 

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Do they give MVPs to guys that aren't the best in the league? I'm asking for a friend.


Terrible argument yet again. MVP means most valuable player. That's different from being the best in the league. I'll ask you again, are you saying that Harden is better than Kevin Durant and Lebron and Giannis right now? I will let you have 1 or 2 of those at best but definitely not better than Kevin Durant.

This is a comical argument to make that Harden is at #1 right now. I can dissect and destroy that notion if that is what you are saying but it's a waste of my time. It's so obvious he's not the best player. He's one of the best.

As if a player who wasn't the best player in the NBA hasn't won MVP before. MVP award doesn't mean they are best in the league.

So to answer your question yes, yes they do give MVPs to guys that aren't best in the league.

Do you want me to give examples other than Harden? Or are you going to bow out of this absurd argument that you are making.

No personal harm meant to you, it's your claim that boggles my mind. I'm a Harden fan and I despise Kevin Durant but to say Harden is at number one is preposterous. To think stating that he is MVP and that supports your case is just as incorrect.

Kevin Durant's defensive ability great destroy's Harden's and we all know what he can do offensively. Harden is pretty spectacular on offense too, that's a given, but defensively? There's not comparison. So Harden is not number 1, maybe not even number 2 but you can debate that. Number 1? Come on man.
 

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What? Everything is not directed at u buddy

Well you can't blame me. I create a thread and guys just pounce. Let's just say for arguments sake their little fantasies are true about me, what does that say about them that they obsess over it and troll and gang up as if they can hurt me online lol. I mean let's say they are right and I'm wrong, what compels them to act like little junior high school girls and keep trolling and ganging up. It's cute till it gets boring and weird.

I got defensive there. My bad. lol.

I admit it. My bad.
 

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James harden showing why he’s #1 tonight hhaha
 

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You will see how good Philly thinks Simmons is when his ass get's traded - they built a team to compete for a title - when they can't get to the title game something has to be changed - and it ain't gonna be Embid

It's a weird situation in Philly. It does seem like they are all in with super high expectations. Simmons obviously isn't even in the conversation for best player. But people act like he should be.

The guy is in his 2nd season! NBA players usually take like 4-8 years to hit their peak. Even Giannis who seems to have arrived early is in his 6th season, Harden is in his 10th or something. Ben is still on his 2nd!
 

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