Bernie Sanders.

[Willie99]

Did you know?

public colleges and universities collected 62 billion dollars in tuition in 2014, probably closer to 70 billion today

Americans spend upwards of 2 to 3 trillion dollars per year on health care (which includes insurance which cast 1 trillion dollars)


somebody else is going to pay for it?

if you take 100% of the income of the richest Americans, you can't pay for their idiocy

fucking idiots, why do they hate math?

why do libtards wage a war on common sense?

 

[The Guesser]

Time to stand Down Bernie, and do whatever you can to help defeat the Psychopathic Racist Drumpf:

"I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, and I have remained faithful."

Hillary Clinton Has Clinched Democratic Nomination, Survey Reports

By AMY CHOZICK and PATRICK HEALYJUNE 6, 2016

On Monday, Hillary Clinton gathered commitments from enough delegates to become the presumptive presidential nominee for the Democratic party, according to Associated Press.
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS on Publish DateJune 6, 2016. Photo by Monica Almeida/The New York Times.
Hillary Clinton became the first woman to capture the presidential nomination of one of the country’s major political parties on Monday night, according to an Associated Press survey of Democratic superdelegates, securing enough of them to overcome a bruising challenge from Senator Bernie Sanders and turn to a brutal five-month campaign against Donald J. Trump.
In a yearlong nomination fight full of surprise twists, from the popularity of Mr. Sanders to the success of Mr. Trump, the revelation that Mrs. Clinton had clinched the nomination was another startling development — especially coming on the eve of major primaries in California, New Jersey and other states. Mr. Sanders added to the drama by refusing to accept the A.P. survey and vowing to fight on, while Mr. Trump argued that he had done more for women than Mrs. Clinton.
Mrs. Clinton was ebullient but also restrained as she received the news at an uncanny moment — almost eight years to the day after she ended her campaign against Barack Obama before a crowd of many teary women and girls. On Monday night, she shared the breakthrough with a jubilant audience at a campaign stop in Long Beach, Calif.
“I got to tell you, according to the news, we are on the brink of a historic, historic, unprecedented moment, but we still have work to do, don’t we?” Mrs. Clinton said. “We have six elections tomorrow, and we’re going to fight hard for every single vote, especially right here in California.”
Like Mr. Obama eight years ago, Mrs. Clinton clinched the Democratic nomination with the support of hundreds of superdelegates — the party insiders, Democratic officials, members of Congress, major donors and others who help select the nominee. Under Democratic rules, these superdelegates — approximately 720 in all — are allowed to back any candidate they wish and can change their allegiance any time before theDemocratic National Convention in July.
Mrs. Clinton has had relationships with many of the superdelegates for years, and her campaign began seeking their support as soon as she entered the race last spring. Mr. Sanders, by contrast, has struggled to win their backing.
Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders competed most aggressively for so-called pledged delegates — the roughly 4,000 delegates won through state primaries and caucuses.
The A.P. declared Mrs. Clinton the presumptive nominee by reaching out to superdelegates who had not announced which candidate they were supporting, and confirming that enough were backing Mrs. Clinton to get her to the magic number of 2,383.

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Robby Mook, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager, said the A.P.’s call was “an important milestone” but indicated Mrs. Clinton did not intend to declare victory until Tuesday night, when she “will clinch not only a win in the popular vote, but also the majority of pledged delegates.”
Advisers to Mr. Sanders took a dim view of the math. He previously said he would lobby Clinton superdelegates to shift their support to him by arguing that he is the party’s best chance to defeat Mr. Trump, and he particularly plans to target those superdelegates who represent states where Mr. Sanders won primaries and caucuses.
The advisers, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Mr. Sanders was aiming to win the California primary on Tuesday to bolster his argument to superdelegates that he is the stronger and more popular candidate than Mrs. Clinton.
Mr. Sanders, speaking on Monday night at a rally in San Francisco, did not acknowledge the news that Mrs. Clinton had clinched the nomination, and instead defiantly vowed to continue his candidacy to the convention. But he also made clear that Tuesday’s vote was make or break for the future of his campaign.
“Tomorrow is the most important primary in the whole Democratic nominating process — we are going to win here in California,” Mr. Sanders said. He added that if he could win the Tuesday contests in California, North Dakota, South Dakota, New Mexico, Montana and do well in New Jersey, his campaign would be “going into that convention with enormous momentum.”
Senator Bernie Sanders campaigning in San Francisco on Monday. Advisers to Mr. Sanders said he was aiming to win the California primary on Tuesday to bolster his argument to superdelegates.CreditJim Wilson/The New York TimesMoments before Mr. Sanders took the stage, former State Senator Nina Turner of Ohio led thousands of supporters in a chant shouting, “Fight on. Fight on. Fight on.” It was a sentiment shared by many audience members like Alex Borja, 18, of Castro Valley, Calif., who said he was happy Mr. Sanders had not conceded to Mrs. Clinton and hoped he would remain in the race through the summer.
“I don’t think it’s fair that they have basically coronated Hillary as the nominee from the beginning and, at this point, Bernie still has a chance to win the delegates needed to clinch the nomination at the convention,” Mr. Borja said. He added, however, that he would vote for Mrs. Clinton if she were the nominee.
Mr. Sanders’s campaign spokesman, Michael Briggs, issued a sharply worded statement that refused to accept the A.P. survey.
“It is unfortunate that the media, in a rush to judgment, are ignoring the Democratic National Committee’s clear statement that it is wrong to count the votes of superdelegates before they actually vote at the convention this summer,” Mr. Briggs said.
Mr. Trump struck familiar notes on Monday night on Twitter, attacking Mrs. Clinton as unfit for the presidency, but he also put his own spin on making history during an interview with Fox News.
“I was the one that really broke the glass ceiling on behalf of women, more than anybody, in the construction industry,” Mr. Trump said.
For Mrs. Clinton, becoming her party’s presumptive nominee is the latest chapter in a remarkable career that has taken her from being the first lady to being one election away from the from returning to the White House as president.

She planned a victory rally on Tuesday in Brooklyn, but by the time The A.P. had called the contest, she seemed to already be in a celebratory mood, ending a campaign slog that had been expected to come to a close after the early contests but dragged on to just before the final votes were tallied, at a “She’s With Us” concert at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles with John Legend, Christina Aguilera and Stevie Wonder.
Mrs. Clinton had for weeks hardly hid her eagerness to put the primary contests against Mr. Sanders behind her and to turn her full focus to the presumptive Republican nominee, Mr. Trump.
Talking to voters at the Hawkins House of Burgers in the Watts section of Los Angeles, Mrs. Clinton promised to take on Mr. Trump “all the time,” and, earlier that day, she urged Mr. Sanders’s supporters to consider the consequences if Mr. Trump captured the White House.
“Anyone who’s supported me, anyone who has supported Senator Sanders has a lot at stake in this election in preventing Donald Trump from being our president, which I can barely say,” she told reporters on Monday.
But Mrs. Clinton must also work in the coming weeks to improve her own standing with voters, both with Mr. Sanders’s hordes of young supporters and with a majority of registered voters who say they do not like or trust her.
Still, many Democratic allies of Mrs. Clinton did not want to wait until Tuesday’s primaries to celebrate, writing Twitter posts and issuing statements hailing her as the nominee and trying to shift the Democratic Party’s focus and the national political conversation to take aim at Mr. Trump.
Jennifer Granholm, the former Michigan governor who now advises a pro-Clinton “super PAC,” said in an email: “It’s beyond words; incredibly moving for me personally — but premature. We don’t want to crush democracy. Still six states tomorrow whose votes must be counted. It’s crucial to encourage people to vote.”
602COMMENTSAt Mrs. Clinton’s rally on Monday evening in California, several voters expressed exhilaration at her historic victory. “It’s about time,” said Maria Garibay, a retired manufacturing analyst. But others also braced themselves for a final showdown with Mr. Sanders and ferocious fight against Mr. Trump.
“I hope Bernie goes out gracefully,” said Helen Satorius, a retired high school counselor. “We need to beat Trump, completely and totally. So I think now he needs to just be willing to unite.”

 

[superbeets]

Ancestry of Donald Trump


[h=1]Ancestry of Donald Trump[/h]
By Kimberly Powell
Genealogy Expert








Updated March 02, 2016.
With German ancestry from his father and Scottish ancestry from his mother, millionaire real estate developer Donald Trump epitomizes the American immigrant experience. Born to Frederick and Mary MacLeod Trump in Queens, New York on June 14, 1946, Donald John Trump learned the real-estate business firsthand from his father who, himself, began in the family construction business at the age of 13 when his own father (Donald's grandfather) died in the influenza epidemic of 1918.
Frederick Christ Trump, grandfather of Donald Trump, was also a true American entrepreneur. Immigrating to America in 1885, he began his fortune running the Arctic Restaurant and Hotel in Bennett, British Columbia, during the Klondike Gold Rush. Christine, who would later become his wife, was only 5 when he left Germany, but they kept in touch by mail and eventually married.





First Generation:


1. Donald John TRUMP was born on 14 Jun 1946 in Queens, New York. He married Ivana Zelnickova Winklmayr, with whom he fathered three children, and then married Marla Maples, with whom he shares one child. In January of 2005, Donald Trump married a third time, to model Melania Knauss. Donald and Melania are the parents of Donald's fifth child, Barron William Trump, born in 2006.
Second Generation (Parents):


2. Frederick Christ (Fred) TRUMP was born on 11 Oct 1905 in Woodhaven, Queens, New York. He died of pneumonia on 25 Jun 1999 at Long Island Jewish Medical Center, New Hyde Park, New York.
3. Mary Anne MACLEOD was born on 10 May 1912 in Isle of Lewis, Scotland.
She died on 7 Aug 2000 at Long Island Jewish Medical Center, New Hyde Park, NY.
Fred TRUMP and Mary MACLEOD were married in Jan 1936 in New York City, New York. They had the following children:

i. Mary Anne TRUMP was born on 5 Apr 1837 in Queens, NY.
ii. Fred TRUMP Jr. was born in 1938 in Queens, NY and died in 1981.
iii. Elizabeth TRUMP was born in 1942 in Queens, NY.
1 iv. Donald John TRUMP
v. Robert TRUMP was born in Aug 1948 in Queens, NY.
​

Third Generation (Grandparents):


4. Friederich (Fred) TRUMP was born on 14 Mar 1869 in Kallstadt, Pfalz, Germany. He immigrated in 1885 to United States from Hamburg aboard the ship "Eider" and became a U.S. citizen in 1892 in Seattle, Washington. He died of influenza on 30 Mar 1918 in New York City, New York.


5. Elizabeth CHRIST was born on 10 Oct 1880 in Kallstadt, Pfalz, Germany and died on 6 Jun 1966 in Queens, New York.
Fred TRUMP and Elizabeth CHRIST were married on 26 Aug 1902 in Kallstadt, Pfalz, Germany. Fred and Elizabeth had the following children:

i. Elizabeth (Betty) TRUMP was born on 30 Apr 1904 in Woodhaven, Queens, NY and died of cancer on 3 Dec 1961 in New York.
2 ii. Frederick Christ (Fred) TRUMP
iii. John George TRUMP was born on 21 Aug 1907 in Woodhaven, Queens, NY and died on 21 Feb 1985 in Boston, MA.
​

6. Malcolm MACLEOD was born 27 Dec 1866 in Stornoway, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland to two Macleod parents, Alexander and Anne. He was a fisherman and crofter, and also served as the "compulsory officer," in charge of enforcing attendance at the local school from 1919. He died of "cerebral thrombosis" on 22 Jun 1954 in Tong.
7. Mary SMITH was born on 11 Jul 1867 in Tong, Stornoway to Donald Smith and Henrietta McSwane. Her father died in a tragic accident when she was just a little over a year old and she and her three siblings were raised by their mother. Mary lived to the ripe old age of 96, dying at home on 27 Dec 1963 following a fracture to her right leg and subsequent pneumonia.



Malcolm MACLEOD and Mary SMITH were married in the Back Free Church of Scotland just a few miles from Stornoway, the only town on the Isle of Lewis. Their marriage was witnessed by Murdo MacLeod and Peter Smith.
Malcolm and Mary had the following children:

i. Malcolm M. Macleod Jr. was born 23 Sep 1891 in Tong, Stornoway and died 20 Jan 1983 on Lopez Island, San Juan, Washington, USA.
ii. Donald Macleod was born about 1894.
iii. Christina Macleod was born about 1896.
iv. Katie Ann Macleod was born about 1898.
v. William Macleod was born about 1898.
vi. Annie Macleod was born about 1900.
vii. Catherine Macleod was born about 1901.
viii. Mary Johann Macleod was born about 1905.
ix. Alexander Macleod was born about 1909.

3. x. Mary Anne Macleod



Fourth Generation (Great Grandparents):


8. Christian Johannes TRUMP was born in Jun 1829 in Kallstadt, Pfalz, Germany and died on 6 Jul 1877 in Kallstadt, Pfalz, Germany.
9. Katherina KOBER was born about 1836 in Kallstadt, Pfalz, Germany and died in Nov 1922 in Kallstadt, Pfalz, Germany.
Christian Johannes TRUMP and Katherina KOBER were married on 29 Sep 1859 in Kallstadt, Pfalz, Germany.
They had the following children:

4 i. Friederich (Fred) TRUMP
​

10. Christian CHRIST was born date unknown.
11. Anna Maria RATHON was born date unknown.
Christ CHRIST and Anna Maria RATHON were married. They had the following children

5 i. Elizabeth CHRIST
​

12. Alexander MacLeod, a crofter and fisherman, was born 10 May 1830 in Stornoway, Ross, Scotland to William MacLeod and Christian MacLeod.



He died in Tong, Stornoway, of cancer on 12 January 1900 at the age of 69.
13. Anne MacLeod was born about 1833 in Tong, Stornoway, Ross, Scotland.
Alexander MacLeod and Anne MacLeod were married at Tong 5 on 3 Dec 1853. They had the following children:

i. Catherine MACLEOD was born about 1856.
ii. Jessie MACLEOD was born about 1857.
iii. Alexander MACLEOD was born about 1859.
iv. Ann MACLEOD was born about 1865.
6 v. Malcolm MACLEOD
vi. Donald MACLEOD was born 11 Jun 1869.
vii. William MACLEOD was born 21 Jan 1874.


14. Donald SMITH, a woolen weaver and cottar (peasant farmer) was born 1 Jan 1835 to Duncan Smith and Henrietta MacSwane, the second of their nine children. Donald was tragically lost at the young age of 34 in Broadbay, off Vatisker Point in Stornoway, when a squall of wind overturned his open boat the evening of 26 Oct 1868.
He left behind a widow, Mary, and four young children to carry on the family croft.
15. Mary MACAULEY was born about 1841 in Barvas, Ross and Cromary, Scotland.
Donald SMITH and Mary MACAULEY were married on 16 Dec 1858 in Garrabost on the Isle of Lewis. They had the following children:

i. Ann SMITH was born 8 Nov 1859 in Stornoway.
ii. John SMITH was born 31 Dec 1861 in Stornoway.
iii. Duncan SMITH was born 2 Sep 1864 in Stornoway and died 29 Oct 1937 in Seattle, King, Washington, USA.
7 iv. Mary SMITH
​

 

[superbeets]

The only Drumpf is the raghead Guesser.

 

[superbeets]

Guesser just worships racist psychopaths and here is one of his Muslim heroes


One of the biggest racists of all time

Ali’s opinions drew strong criticism even from civil rights champion Dr Martin Luther King, who commented: ‘When Cassius Clay joined the Black Muslims, he became a champion of racial segregation and that is what we are fighting against.’


‘Muhammad Ali said far more inflammatory/racist things about whites than Donald Trump ever has about Muslims.’

.

Ali said a lot of very inflammatory, racist things after he joined the Nation of Islam. Some statements during his 10-year status as the group’s most famous ‘frontman’ were not just outrageously racist but also anti-Semitic, sexist and homophobic. He's seen here with Malcolm X


‘All Jews and gentiles are devils,’ he once declared. ‘Blacks are no devils. Everything black people doing wrong comes from (the white people): Drinking, smoking, prostitution, homosexuality, stealing, gambling. It all comes from (the white people).’

.

Explaining why he believed all white men were also ‘the devil’, Ali said: ‘I’ve heard Elijah Muhammad say that many white people mean right and in their heart want to do right. But if 10,000 rattle snakes were coming down the aisle right there and I had a door I could shut, and one thousands of those snakes meant right, they didn’t want to bite me and I knew they were good. Should I let those rattle snakes come down, hoping those one thousand get together and form a shield? Or should I close the door and stay safe?’
White people, he said, ‘kill our men…and rape our women daily.’
Ali’s rampant racism even extended to wanting blacks who had sex with whites murdered.
‘A black man should be killed if he’s messing around with a white women,’ he said.
And if a black woman was messing with a white man?
‘Then she dies. Kill her too.’


He called for a complete separation of the races. ‘Integration is wrong,’ he insisted, ‘we don’t want to live with the white man. I’m sure no intelligent white person in his or her right mind wants black men and women marrying their white sons and daughters and in return introducing their grandchildren to half brown, kinky haired people. I want to be with my own. No women on this whole earth can please me and cook for me and socialise and talk to me like an American black woman. You can’t take no Chinese man and give him no Puerto Rican woman and talking like they’re in love and emotionally in love and physically.’

Imagine if Donald Trump said any of these things about blacks or Muslims?

 

[superbeets]

[h=2]Clinton clinches the Democratic nomination as support from super delegates pushes her over the top - but Bernie still won't give up[/h]

Hillary Clinton was declared the winner of the Democratic nomination this on Monday as she campaigned in Los Angeles. The Associated Press, which runs the premiere delegate-tracking service, first made the call and was quickly followed by NBC News, CNN and CBS.. Almost eight years from the day that she bowed out of a tight race against Barack Obama, Clinton made history with the announcements, becoming the first woman to top a major political party's ticket in the United States. AP determined tonight that Clinton had enough superdelegates in her corner to win the nomination at this summer's convention without the votes that will be cast in Tuesday's elections in six states and one final contest next week in the District of Columbia. 'According to the news we are on the brink of a historic, historic, unprecedented moment,' Clinton said at a rally in Long Beach, California.

 

[superbeets]

[h=2]White House signals an Obama endorsement could come as soon as voting finishes in NJ and California primaries Tuesday - and Obama just happens to plan to be in Hillary's neighborhood this week[/h]

President Obama wants to let voters 'make their voice heard' in California and New Jersey, but could make an endorsement in the Democratic primary as soon as that happens.

 

[LENBO]

For all the whack job socialist supporters...sing along

Santa Claus won't be coming tooooo town !

 

[ScottL]

SB please don't trash Ali in here just to make a point. He did some bad things in his life and was a serial cheater. We all know this. But some of what he said was spot on as well. Especially about refusing to fly 10K miles to kill more brown people. Why should he go to Vietnam and risk his life when he can't get served at half of the lunch counters in his own country? Did you know that Ali wrote several letters to the kidnappers of Daniel Pearl begging them to spare his life?

 

[Dave007inVegas]

SB please don't trash Ali in here just to make a point. He did some bad things in his life and was a serial cheater. We all know this. But some of what he said was spot on as well. Especially about refusing to fly 10K miles to kill more brown people. Why should he go to Vietnam and risk his life when he can't get served at half of the lunch counters in his own country? Did you know that Ali wrote several letters to the kidnappers of Daniel Pearl begging them to spare his life?

A little late don’t you think? When did you become a 1st amendment protester?

 

[ScottL]

A little late don’t you think? When did you become a 1st amendment protester?

You'll have to explain that one to me Dave. Don't know what you're point is.

 

[Acebb]

A New York Times reporter asked Bernie Sanders on Monday if it is sexist for him to continue running for president against what could be the nation’s first female president in Hillary Clinton.

“What do you say to women that say you staying in the race is sexist because it could get in the way of what could be the first female president?” she asked

 

[Willie99]

A New York Times reporter asked Bernie Sanders on Monday if it is sexist for him to continue running for president against what could be the nation’s first female president in Hillary Clinton.

“What do you say to women that say you staying in the race is sexist because it could get in the way of what could be the first female president?” she asked

they, the media, are the single biggest reason we are a nation of idiots

they let the country down

 

[Dave007inVegas]

You'll have to explain that one to me Dave. Don't know what you're point is.

He had already posted about Ali. You asking him not to do it is like closing the barn door after the horse got out. I get that you didn’t care for what he said but he had every right to say it.


Maybe I should have taken my own advice and not commented.

 

[ScottL]

He had already posted about Ali. You asking him not to do it is like closing the barn door after the horse got out. I get that you didn’t care for what he said but he had every right to say it.


Maybe I should have taken my own advice and not commented.

All good Dave.

I don't know how many anti-Ali posts SB made. I've seen 2 so far and may have missed others. I let the first one slide because I wasn't expecting SB to do it more than once. I know you love SB's take no prisoners approach though.



BTW imo you only need to quote someone's full post once if you're going to reply to them 8 times. After the first quote if you're going to keep going you should just put it in the reply box without repeating the quoted post again and again.

 

[superbeets]

"Why should he ( Ali ) go to Vietnam and risk his life when he can't get served at half of the lunch counters in his own country?"


Maybe you should ask the African Americans who served in Vietnam, who also faced the same racial segregation.


African Americans have served in every war waged by the United States

The Vietnam War saw the highest proportion of blacks ever to serve in an American war. During the height of the U.S. involvement, 1965-69, blacks, who formed 11 percent of the American population, made up 12.6 percent of the soldiers in Vietnam.

African Americans played a major role in Vietnam and, in the process, changed the complexion of the U.S. Armed Forces. Contrary to popular impressions, a large proportion of African American servicemen were well-trained, highly motivated professionals; some 20 received the Medal of Honor, and several became general officers.

2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers.











97% of Vietnam-era veterans were honorably discharged.

91% of actual Vietnam War veterans and 90% of those who saw heavy combat are proud to have served their country.

74% say they would serve again, even knowing the outcome.

87% of the public now holds Vietnam veterans in high esteem.


The post in in response to a particular poster who calls Trump racist all the time. Now it is time to hit back. The Ali past is fair.

Ali said a lot of very inflammatory, racist things after he joined the Nation of Islam. Some statements during his 10-year status as the group’s most famous ‘frontman’ were not just outrageously racist but also anti-Semitic, sexist and homophobic



When Trump racism slur comes up again the Ali comparison will be used.

‘Muhammad Ali said far more inflammatory/racist things about whites than Donald Trump ever has about Muslims.’

It is fair and balanced.



"Ali wrote several letters to the kidnappers of Daniel Pearl begging them to spare his life?"

Does not wipe the slate clean.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

All good Dave.

I don't know how many anti-Ali posts SB made. I've seen 2 so far and may have missed others. I let the first one slide because I wasn't expecting SB to do it more than once. I know you love SB's take no prisoners approach though.



BTW imo you only need to quote someone's full post once if you're going to reply to them 8 times. After the first quote if you're going to keep going you should just put it in the reply box without repeating the quoted post again and again.

That sounds like quite a few posters down here.

 

[hehateme82]

"Why should he ( Ali ) go to Vietnam and risk his life when he can't get served at half of the lunch counters in his own country?"


Maybe you should ask the African Americans who served in Vietnam, who also faced the same racial segregation.


African Americans have served in every war waged by the United States

The Vietnam War saw the highest proportion of blacks ever to serve in an American war. During the height of the U.S. involvement, 1965-69, blacks, who formed 11 percent of the American population, made up 12.6 percent of the soldiers in Vietnam.

African Americans played a major role in Vietnam and, in the process, changed the complexion of the U.S. Armed Forces. Contrary to popular impressions, a large proportion of African American servicemen were well-trained, highly motivated professionals; some 20 received the Medal of Honor, and several became general officers.

2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers.











97% of Vietnam-era veterans were honorably discharged.

91% of actual Vietnam War veterans and 90% of those who saw heavy combat are proud to have served their country.

74% say they would serve again, even knowing the outcome.

87% of the public now holds Vietnam veterans in high esteem.


The post in in response to a particular poster who calls Trump racist all the time. Now it is time to hit back. The Ali past is fair.

Ali said a lot of very inflammatory, racist things after he joined the Nation of Islam. Some statements during his 10-year status as the group’s most famous ‘frontman’ were not just outrageously racist but also anti-Semitic, sexist and homophobic



When Trump racism slur comes up again the Ali comparison will be used.

‘Muhammad Ali said far more inflammatory/racist things about whites than Donald Trump ever has about Muslims.’

It is fair and balanced.



"Ali wrote several letters to the kidnappers of Daniel Pearl begging them to spare his life?"

Does not wipe the slate clean.

[h=4]PLAYBOY:[/h] Elijah Muhammad preached that all white men are blue-eyed devils. Do you believe that?
[h=4]ALI:[/h] Look, we been told there’s gonna be whites who help blacks. And we also know there’s gonna be whites who’ll escape Allah’s judgment, who won’t be killed when Allah destroys this country—mainly some Jewish people who really mean right and do right. But we look at the situation as a whole. We have to. OK, think about a white student who’s got long hair and who wants minority people to have something and so he’s against the slave white rule. Well, other whites will beat his behind and maybe even kill him, because they don’t want him helping us. But that doesn’t change what happens to the black man. If white boys get beat up, am I supposed to say, “Oh, some white folks are good. Let’s forget our whole movement and integrate and join up in America”?




At least Scott and TG have a chance when Allah brings down the Thunder!

 

[Dave007inVegas]

PLAYBOY:

Elijah Muhammad preached that all white men are blue-eyed devils. Do you believe that?
ALI:

Look, we been told there’s gonna be whites who help blacks. And we also know there’s gonna be whites who’ll escape Allah’s judgment, who won’t be killed when Allah destroys this country—mainly some Jewish people who really mean right and do right. But we look at the situation as a whole. We have to. OK, think about a white student who’s got long hair and who wants minority people to have something and so he’s against the slave white rule. Well, other whites will beat his behind and maybe even kill him, because they don’t want him helping us. But that doesn’t change what happens to the black man. If white boys get beat up, am I supposed to say, “Oh, some white folks are good. Let’s forget our whole movement and integrate and join up in America”?




At least Scott and TG have a chance when Allah brings down the Thunder!

Scott’s chances, fair. Guesser’s chances, slim.

 

[The Guesser]

PLAYBOY:

Elijah Muhammad preached that all white men are blue-eyed devils. Do you believe that?
ALI:

Look, we been told there’s gonna be whites who help blacks. And we also know there’s gonna be whites who’ll escape Allah’s judgment, who won’t be killed when Allah destroys this country—mainly some Jewish people who really mean right and do right. But we look at the situation as a whole. We have to. OK, think about a white student who’s got long hair and who wants minority people to have something and so he’s against the slave white rule. Well, other whites will beat his behind and maybe even kill him, because they don’t want him helping us. But that doesn’t change what happens to the black man. If white boys get beat up, am I supposed to say, “Oh, some white folks are good. Let’s forget our whole movement and integrate and join up in America”?




At least Scott and TG have a chance when Allah brings down the Thunder!

Hooray, I'm Jewish again. My Jew card was temporarily taken away by The Only Jew in the forum, but I'm back baby. L'Chiam HHM.
On a serious note. What Ali said when he first joined the NOI was disgraceful. Young, angry people say dumb, angry things. He rejected it years later, and his actions in his life more than overshadowed those ignorant words.