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I think they made 30 million of them ( one for every Canadian) which isn't rare, but is limited.

The spy thing is crazy !

They sell for a premium on ebay.

I'd imagine a Canadian coin dealer would sell one for under $2, based on what rolls sell for. I've never seen one,either.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Roll-of-2004-Po...oryZ3385QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

There's 30 million quarters & they're going to sell them for $1.99 each?

It looks like we can thank Xpanda for that, too.

BTW, tonight i'll be approaching females everywhere to ask them
about a coin i have in front of me that says SEX & "No Cash Value"
on opposite sides. What do you suggest as a conversation starter?
 

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I've had tons of them. You can scrape the coloured stuff off with your fingernail.

Geniuses at the Mint, I tell ya.

Royal Canadian Mint is actually pretty smart, they want you to save these coins by the roll much like the USPS is quite happy if you buy sheets(100) of commemerative stamps for $39, which probably cost well under $1 to print, and save them because they have Babe Ruth, or Bugs Bunny or the Golden Gate bridge or something "special" on it.


Make quarters for 5 cents or something, and get people to save them is not much different than what US encourages with stamps ( coins too).

RCM is very aggressive in creating coins to sell to collectors ( at a premium), the poppy quarter was a circulating commem issued at face.

I think the ebay price of 8X face is high since there must be millions of uncirculated coins left in virgin rolls.

The fact that you can scratch the red off, encourages you to save them, RCM is not stupid
 

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I've had tons of them. You can scrape the coloured stuff off with your fingernail.

Geniuses at the Mint, I tell ya.

Canada is smart enough to make coins out of materials that can yield a profit for their efforts, they are quite happy to have these quarters collected ( hoarded) so they can make more quarters.

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Also, seign·or·age.

while the USA makes nickels with 10 cents worth of copper and nickel in them, Canada makes them out of steel.

copper is near $4 a pound, nickel over $20/lb.
 

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I didn't think that remark would go over well !
Those anti-Canadian remarks are more reflective of the posters who made them than anything else.

We have to remember that the Canadian mint produced those coins to remember and honour the war dead, those Canadians who died in battle from the WW1 & WW2 and couple of other wars.

People may not like Canada, but at least we should repect the dead, and not use this weird story as an opportunity to bash.
 
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I am a bit of an amateur coin collector, mostly Canadian & US,
and have never seen one of these red tailed quarters. A few
weeks ago a hooker friend passed onto me a 1971 US silver
1/2 dollar. Somewhere else i picked up a US 5c piece with a
Buffalo as tails & an Indian head, date/year worn off. Also
have a 1947 Canuck 25c with George's head, not QEII. And a
US 1898 Silver dollar.
 

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1971 halves aren't supposed to be silver.

look at the edge for a red-copper color, if red=no silver, pre 1971 is silver ( 40%), or 90% before 1965 in halves.

a 71 in silver would be valuable.
 

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I am a bit of an amateur coin collector, mostly Canadian & US,
and have never seen one of these red tailed quarters. A few
weeks ago a hooker friend passed onto me a 1971 US silver
1/2 dollar. Somewhere else i picked up a US 5c piece with a
Buffalo as tails & an Indian head, date/year worn off. Also
have a 1947 Canuck 25c with George's head, not QEII. And a
US 1898 Silver dollar.


Was she having a sale, like XXX for $19.50 ?

dateless buffalo nickels go for about 15 cents in bulk, mainly used for cheap jewelry items, 1898 is a common dollar date.
 

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I am a bit of an amateur coin collector, mostly Canadian & US,
and have never seen one of these red tailed quarters. A few
weeks ago a hooker friend passed onto me a 1971 US silver
1/2 dollar. Somewhere else i picked up a US 5c piece with a
Buffalo as tails & an Indian head, date/year worn off. Also
have a 1947 Canuck 25c with George's head, not QEII. And a
US 1898 Silver dollar.

I don't know the details of a 1947 Canadian quarter, they made like 6 million of them, so it is very common, but there are varities that can be valuable, I don't know what to look for. It is silver, so about $2 for the silver.

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Anything Canadian sucks.

What's wrong with Canadian stuff ? It's not like cheap tools made in China !

I have no problem with anything from Canada. Canadian coins aren't meant to work in US vending machines.
 

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How valuble would that be?

That's a tough call. It would be a rather significant error ( if genuine). It would have to have been struck on a leftover planchet ( 40% silver) from previous years, that sort of thing does happen. I can only guess at this one, but would say a minimum of a few hundred dollars.

The first thing to do would be to get an accurate weight for the coin, I can find the specs, this would rule out a plated coin.

Then you need this guy

http://www.fredweinberg.com/
 

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How valuble would that be?

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It didn't paste cleanly, sold for about $6,000
 

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Silver-clad issues (1965-1970, 1975-1976):
  • Weight: 11.5 g
  • Composition: <DL><DD>Outer layers: 80% silver, 20% copper <DD>Inner layers: 20.9% silver, 79.1% copper </DD></DL>
  • Silver content: 4.60 g (0.1479 troy oz)
Copper-nickel clad issues (1971 to date):
  • Weight: 11.34 g (0.4 oz avoirdupois)
  • Composition: 75% copper, 25% nickel
Its hard to tell if this is silver or plated later by the weight alone. There is a tolerance of maybe .1 grams, so 11.4 would be inconclusive.

It could be destructively tested ( deep scratch) but that would reduce value greatly if its real, so avoid that.

I'd show it to a local dealer for an opinion, a Canadian dealer should know enough about US coins to offer an opinion.

Next step would be to get it certified by NGC or PCGS ( about $30), then you could get big bucks for it.

It most likely was plated later, but the error does exist, the closer it weighs to 11.5 grams, the more likely it is to be genuine and not altered.
 

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Any update ?

Last we left this its a plated fake, or maybe worth $5,000 ?
 

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I'll do any Rx'er right on a coin question, if its US.. I know us coins extremely, no fees.I don't buy, but will opine.
 

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