Bad call det should have gotten ball on 6 inch line.intentional bat out of endzone.

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Yeah but this is the mistake the NFL has made. When the punter, QB or anyone else (as you said) kicks or bats the ball out, they have never thrown a flag! They should throw a flag if it is a penalty and then say it is declined and let the offense decide like they do with all other plays. If they don't throw a flag, then nobody knows it is a penalty.

Watching that game live, I don't think one person on the field knew that was a penalty. The real mistake by the NFL is not throwing a flag when the punter does it. That doesn't make any sense, they throw a flag whenever there is a penalty no matter what, why would they decide on a play with a safety to not throw the flag and just say penalty declined. The NFL set a bad precedent and caused the issue on this play. When you see people do it for years and not get a flagged thrown, even if it is in the rulebook it doesn't make sense to all of a sudden throw a flag. You know what I'm saying?



This is always called when a punter or QB bats/kicks a ball through their own end zone, but most times it's not acknowledged by the TV crew because it's an automatic decline by the defense and the safety is awarded. TV crews are too busy showing the celebration of the safety and replays of it to acknowledge a meaningless call, the confusing part was it was the defense doing the batting for a change in which the penalty would be accepted on this type of play. It was an easy call that was completely butchered by the crew, and sadly it's not reviewable by instant replay
 

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No....you don't move on. You get at least 24 hours to complain and you raise the issues loudly to help ensure someone is hearing it and potentential changes are made so that its less likely to happen again. for example.....there is no reason on this earth that the play should not be a reviewable call. That change should be made. as for the game, 5 minutes separated time of possession, 35 yards separated passing, and about 50-60 yards rushing. They had 7-8 turnovers between them. Both teams played terrible, so I would say there's a decent argument that neither team had any business winning that game.

no seattle was the better team on both ends of the field. not sure what game you were watching. minus the oline..sea had a far better run game, their corners and dbs were better and the linemen were better.
either way u can scream as loud as u want. there have been worse calls than this . one of my all time favs was the pitt sd game where polumalu took it to the end zone and instead of big ben being excited he was horrified - that game was fixed for vegas - they changed the ruling on the field and books made millions on that game for the overturn. it doesnt stop there, and it never will. this is a vegas game. my guess is ingame there was shitloads of det money on the ml - so they cant have them win.
 

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This is always called when a punter or QB bats/kicks a ball through their own end zone, but most times it's not acknowledged by the TV crew because it's an automatic decline by the defense and the safety is awarded. TV crews are too busy showing the celebration of the safety and replays of it to acknowledge a meaningless call, the confusing part was it was the defense doing the batting for a change in which the penalty would be accepted on this type of play. It was an easy call that was completely butchered by the crew, and sadly it's not reviewable by instant replay

I've never seen a flag thrown when the punter or quarterback kicks it out of the endzone. I've also never heard an official announce there was a penalty and then say it was declined. That is unlike the NFL, they always throw a flag or their hat to signify something has occurred on the field. It is weird that they would never throw a flag and then expect it to be secretly implied that there was a penalty. Have you ever seen a flag thrown in this case? Be honest, because I never have and I've seen it happen many times and it was not because of the TV crew using the wrong cameras.
 

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I know that rule did not apply to the game last night. I was answering a question someone asked regarding a punter or QB kicking the ball out of the back of the endzone. Such a play does result in a safety and no team would accept that penalty, take the 2-points off the board and allow the offense to re-kick or run another play of any kind.
 

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Thanks, I had never seen that called before. I take it you hadn't either or you wouldn't have had to a youtube search. I think I heard Mike Pereria say that it has to be batted in the endzone and a lot of times the punter or QB bat it from the 5 yard line, so maybe that is why they don't throw the flag.

Technically it was a penalty, but I agree with the refs judgement call that it had no impact on the play and should not be called. It was a brilliant play play Kam Chancellor. He is a hell of a player.
 

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I've seen it many times, I put that clip up for you, like I said it usually gets ignored by TV because you usually have a team celebrating and a goofy play being replayed by TV
 
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Thanks, I had never seen that called before. I take it you hadn't either or you wouldn't have had to a youtube search. I think I heard Mike Pereria say that it has to be batted in the endzone and a lot of times the punter or QB bat it from the 5 yard line, so maybe that is why they don't throw the flag.

Technically it was a penalty, but I agree with the refs judgement call that it had no impact on the play and should not be called. It was a brilliant play play Kam Chancellor. He is a hell of a player.

It's not a judgement call according to the rule. It is illegal to bat the ball which is exactly what he did. Not sure how much clearer that could be......a Detroit player could of jumped on the ball as well had the ball not been batted. Who is to say the ball doesn't squirt out if Wright jumps on the ball. Anything can happen but not on an illegal bat.
 

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It's not a judgement call according to the rule. It is illegal to bat the ball which is exactly what he did. Not sure how much clearer that could be......a Detroit player could of jumped on the ball as well had the ball not been batted. Who is to say the ball doesn't squirt out if Wright jumps on the ball. Anything can happen but not on an illegal bat.

Lol, it was obviously going out of bounds. But you're right anything is possible, there could of been a gust of wind at that exact moment.
 

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I've seen it many times, I put that clip up for you, like I said it usually gets ignored by TV because you usually have a team celebrating and a goofy play being replayed by TV

I hear you. I appreciate you posting the clip. I'm glad they didn't call it, it would of been like calling pass interference when a ball is uncatchable.
 

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Brings back painful memories of getting jobbed by the zebras once again!
 

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Brings back painful memories of getting jobbed by the zebras once again!

Haha, I have to admit I had the Chargers in that game plus the points and when I saw Troy score the that TD I was so sad until someone upstairs gave gave the signal for the fix.
 

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