Other than Bridge, THE most challenging & the most fun is Pinochle, I play only Dbl Deck 4 handed partners. Most guys who've been in the military know how to play. Great game. This will sound bad, but, I know how good I am, very. Having said that I knew a guy @ Forbes AFB, Ka, who was just as good. One time they sent the 2 of us on a prisoner PU to Lowry AFB, Co. Short story. 1st nite in the NCO club we started talking to 2 black guys, stationed there. Said they liked the game, Jay & I looked @ each other & said OK. For a .5 a point & $20 a game. Like 2 rubes we didn't require a "settle up" after ea. game. Shortly we were up $100 +, of course 1 went to the john, and before long both disapeared. As we were just there overnight There was no way to find em. Lesson learned.hno: