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He doing this being done by prep message or email?

Because we are getting reports everywhere about this
I believe he did it over PM here.

if you can check and read what he sent him.
 

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Vitterd was receiving threatening emails from someone from SBR, and he thought crudebar was possibly the person who was doing it, given that they were spatting on these forums at the time.

(The emails were pretty awful)

He had the emailer's info and basically wanted to see if crudebar was the one doing it. I confirmed to vitterd that crudebar was NOT responsible for it
Imagine Vit getting threatening emails.....who would do such a thing to a sweet man like Vit.
 

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Vitterd was receiving threatening emails from someone from SBR, and he thought crudebar was possibly the person who was doing it, given that they were spatting on these forums at the time.

(The emails were pretty awful)

He had the emailer's info and basically wanted to see if crudebar was the one doing it. I confirmed to vitterd that crudebar was NOT responsible for it
I should add I definitely mentioned crudebar’s past transgressions as I didn’t want to rehash them on the board for the millionth time
 

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Is this being done by private message, email, or both?

Because we are getting reports everywhere from a lot of people about this in their recruiting process
Hache, if you can read the PMs and he never spoke of me to Vit i'll believe you and apologize.

But this just smells to high heavens like the both of them.
 

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I should add I definitely mentioned crudebar’s past transgressions as I didn’t want to rehash them on the board for the millionth time
LOL. of course now you start to slowly put out a little truth as the screws turn.
 

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Vitterd was receiving threatening emails from someone from SBR, and he thought crudebar was possibly the person who was doing it, given that they were spatting on these forums at the time.

(The emails were pretty awful)

He had the emailer's info and basically wanted to see if crudebar was the one doing it. I confirmed to vitterd that crudebar was NOT responsible for it
LOL.

You are such a joke. You have went from scammer to criminal.

lastly to add on Vit, I only spatted with him over his obvious fake bets. I never took it personal outside of that....
 

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There's a small group of them spreading fabricated stories about all of the other forums in an effort to bring attention to something they are creating

Most of you saw the ludicrous thread vitterd posted in the rubber room

I think he's probably banned at most places again and the only reason he was here and a couple other places because I unbanned him here and ask for the favor at other places

But yeah they are reaching out to everyone spreading outlandish stuff in an effort to try and hurt all of the existing forums
 

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Lol if you think someone tried to open CC's in your name (again LOL as there is no logic for anyone to do this, let alone for me or vitterd to), then go contact law enforcement

They would be able to find out who did it pretty easily
 

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You and Vit are just scum. I know you think you are justified because you got the screws put to you over bets and maybe got embarrassed in front of your family

but think of this...

all i wanted is payment from bets you lost and all i did to Vit was mock him over his fake wagers---after initially giving him a chance to prove it. I even posted all my bet slips for like a month.

and this is how the 2 of you act.
 

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You and Vit are just scum. I know you think you are justified because you got the screws put to you over bets and maybe got embarrassed in front of your family

but think of this...

all i wanted is payment from bets you lost and all i did to Vit was mock him over his fake wagers---after initially giving him a chance to prove it. I even posted all my bet slips for like a month.

and this is how the 2 of you act.
LOL "bets you lost"

Pretty easy situation to deal with if someone opened up CC accounts or tried to. Law enforcement would take care of it. Hell, you have my personal info. Not sure why you would handle it this way even if your made up story was true

Alright I'm done feeding the beast. You did finally get me to reply to you today quite a bit after you were trying so hard since May, so well played by you sir
 

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Lol if you think someone tried to open CC's in your name (again LOL as there is no logic for anyone to do this, let alone for me or vitterd to), then go contact law enforcement

They would be able to find out who did it pretty easily
Yeah right, Im sure the "authorities" are going to make it a prioritiy.....but a sheep like you probably think they really give a shit....

Law enforcement, puhleaz


You are very deceptive and sneaky, that is obvious from the way you answers questions and respond on the board.
 

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Vitterd was receiving threatening emails from someone from SBR, and he thought crudebar was possibly the person who was doing it, given that they were spatting on these forums at the time.

(The emails were pretty awful)

He had the emailer's info and basically wanted to see if crudebar was the one doing it. I confirmed to vitterd that crudebar was NOT responsible for it

lol chances of that being crude were < 1% probably. Vitterd probably has hundreds of enemies on these forums from over a decade of nonstop spats.
 

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Also that story makes no sense. He was arguing with another member on another forum so he runs to you because he thinks its me and he just so happens to have this person's personal information and he wants to compare it to the personal information you have me?

Yeah. That's logical.

Not to mention I had only been busting the guy's balls over his obvious fake wagers. Why would I send him some nasty email?
 

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Also that story makes no sense. He was arguing with another member on another forum so he runs to you because he thinks its me and he just so happens to have this person's personal information and he wants to compare it to the personal information you have me?

Yeah. That's logical.

Not to mention I had only been busting the guy's balls over his obvious fake wagers.

Ehh, that's pretty believable bro. Put yourself in that guys head for a minute, these spats are his life. You were his new flavor of the month, he gets all sleuth mode about it.

He said the reason the mods here let Tuesday back here is so he would argue with Vitt for traffic. How the fuck is that bringing in traffic? I'm not kidding, he said this. You think of it from his warped perspective for a minute and I'm sure he's spending tons of time figuring out who has an axe to grind with him everyday.

Perhaps some loose with the facts about how they started talking but not surprising Vitterd would be like hmm gimme that info and let me compare with another enemy of mine.
 

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Ehh, that's pretty believable bro. Put yourself in that guys head for a minute, these spats are his life. You were his new flavor of the month, he gets all sleuth mode about it.

He said the reason the mods here let Tuesday back here is so he would argue with Vitt for traffic. How the fuck is that bringing in traffic? I'm not kidding, he said this. You think of it from his warped perspective for a minute and I'm sure he's spending tons of time figuring out who has an axe to grind with him everyday.

Perhaps some loose with the facts about how they started talking but not surprising Vitterd would be like hmm gimme that info and let me compare with another enemy of mine.
I'll bet you any amount it didn't go

Vit: hey does this information match what you have on crude
Av: nope. Not him.
Vit: okay have a good good day.

As someone here makes it out to be. Haha
 

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Also could use some clarification of why AV would go out of his way to tell Vit in private messages about our past?

What exactly was AV's motivation here?

Seems like he wanted someone to do his dirty work for him.

Nice try Fruit. But obviously Vit is an unstable idiot.
 

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Yeah, probably was some gossiping and trading war stories before that but Vitt having issues with another guy on another site then thinking someone here is that guy seems about right.

I know it is off topic but that did crack me up when he said in his last post that the mods here let posters be unbanned here so they would argue with him to drum up traffic.

I do agree though, somewhere in AV's mind he obviously knows he gives Vitterd that info and maybe some inconvenience for you comes out of it. I was just saying from Vitt's perspective thinking his enemies at different sites could be the same guy seems believable.
 

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Yeah, probably was some gossiping and trading war stories before that but Vitt having issues with another guy on another site then thinking someone here is that guy seems about right.

I know it is off topic but that did crack me up when he said in his last post that the mods here let posters be unbanned here so they would argue with him to drum up traffic.

I do agree though, somewhere in AV's mind he obviously knows he gives Vitterd that info and maybe some inconvenience for you comes out of it. I was just saying from Vitt's perspective thinking his enemies at different sites could be the same guy seems believable.
Its just funny with AV. I know Vit gave some laughing emoji that him and fruit ever talk about me---then when I asked Hache if he can look at AV's pms he right away comes out with that he shared the past with him....

I think the credit card stuff is 100 percent Vit but he only has the information because Fruit gave it to him----i don't think fruit has the balls to try something like that....Vit on the other hand is a desperate losing gambler that doesn't have a mommy and daddy to fall back on...
 

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