Preussen...I am aware that my last post to you pointed out the fact that you were completely wrong about a large number of US states using homicide charges for the murder of unborn babies in womb.
It was, I might add, just another of countless episodes of pointing out that you were just pulling things out of your ass and presenting them as fact.
I have yet to actually see a law that states terminating a pregnancy is homicide, but if this is so then yes, I was wrong, although I stand by my opinion that calling a pregnancy termination a homicide is, from a scientific standpoint, nonsense.
However, I'm really impressed by your ability to continually claim that you are always able to prove me wrong when it is obvious for every sensible person in here that in the overwhelming majority of our disputes you are, to put it mildly, not doing too well. ;-)
This thread is actually a good example for that.
My points about the suicide article stands...it's obviously meant for manipulation. The statistics used do not support the headline very well.
As Barman already pointed out, the headline only says that there is an increase in suicides among military personnel. Can you dispute this fact? If not, in what respect is the headline of the statistic misleading?
Or if you mean the headline of the article you linked to - can you deny that army suicides are at a record high and surpassing the rate of corresponding civilians?
If you actually read the article and think through the statistics...isn't it in fact remarkable that our soldiers do not in real terms have a higher suicide rate than comparable civilians?
MJ, unlike you I
always read the quoted articles before venturing to comment.
And no, I don't think that it's remarkable that soldiers usually have a lower suicide rate than civilians (except in times of big wars). Soldiers usually have a regulated, orderly life and will, on average, be more hardened against personal feelings and be generally of a tougher nature while among civilians there are many broken existences or fragile personalities more prone to depression.
To me that suggests the opposite of the what the headline tries to imply. We must be doing something right here? Can we do more of it? It's still remarkable.
See...the glass just might be half full. But the AP wouldn't want to cast it that way...now would they? Or a former East German for that matter.
I agree with you that if you'd militarise life more than overall suicides might decline, as the more control you exercise over people the less likely it is that you will not recognise problems before it is too late, but I guess most civilians would resent such a development.
But the fact is that in the army suicides are significantly increasing recently. They are the highest since current record keeping began in 1980, and you have to keep in mind that the American military was much smaller in the last years than it was some decades ago. No matter if the numbers are still relatively low, if you think the increase should be ignored and the military rather be taken as an example how to improve the situation for civilians then this only shows once more that you simply choose to ignore problems that don't fit in your agenda.