Uncle M,
Most people (in this modern world full of hedonism and gluttony, dominated by feminists) would say I am strict with them but I don't consider myself so. I think I have a good ability to tell when they really need something vs. just pouting, but of course that's subjective. Why do you ask?
Most people (in this modern world full of hedonism and gluttony, dominated by feminists) would say I am strict with them but I don't consider myself so. I think I have a good ability to tell when they really need something vs. just pouting, but of course that's subjective. Why do you ask?
"The issue is one of territoriality. Conservatives are territorial. They view the USA as their home and value it above other places in the world. They do all they can to protect the motherland and if that means screwing other nations, so be it. American interests come first, all others are tied for last.
In contrast, the liberal view is that we are one world, one people and whether you are here or there, black or white, straight or gay, American or non-American, it really makes little difference. They see the whole world as their home and so nationalism has little or no importance.
The American flag is a symbol of territoriality so it stands to reason that conservatives would cherish it more than the liberals. The liberals would prefer a single flag for planet Earth to replace all the flags of the various nations (and if that flag looked like the star of David, there would be little objection )."
Interesting take on things. Actually there are patriotic libs and conservs and there are libs and conservs that would overthrough the government if they could.
Socialists and communists get lumped in as libs and similarily the conservs get the kkk, freemen and the arian resistence types, neither of those extreme ends of the spectrum are very patriotic.
You are correct though that there are people that feel that they are a part of the human race more than a country, however having known several many with that attitude that's not a political view point of lib or conserv. Just as an example I've personally met different people that consider themselves worldings some that support and others that oppose capital punishment.
At any rate, you do touch on an interesting point. It is true that conservs tend to be much more ethnocentrical and largely indifferent to the rest of the world's welfare and prefer to lead by bullying.
It's also true the libs tend to have a clearer view of the importance of the world community and our role as an example of leadership to that community.
In contrast, the liberal view is that we are one world, one people and whether you are here or there, black or white, straight or gay, American or non-American, it really makes little difference. They see the whole world as their home and so nationalism has little or no importance.
The American flag is a symbol of territoriality so it stands to reason that conservatives would cherish it more than the liberals. The liberals would prefer a single flag for planet Earth to replace all the flags of the various nations (and if that flag looked like the star of David, there would be little objection )."
Interesting take on things. Actually there are patriotic libs and conservs and there are libs and conservs that would overthrough the government if they could.
Socialists and communists get lumped in as libs and similarily the conservs get the kkk, freemen and the arian resistence types, neither of those extreme ends of the spectrum are very patriotic.
You are correct though that there are people that feel that they are a part of the human race more than a country, however having known several many with that attitude that's not a political view point of lib or conserv. Just as an example I've personally met different people that consider themselves worldings some that support and others that oppose capital punishment.
At any rate, you do touch on an interesting point. It is true that conservs tend to be much more ethnocentrical and largely indifferent to the rest of the world's welfare and prefer to lead by bullying.
It's also true the libs tend to have a clearer view of the importance of the world community and our role as an example of leadership to that community.
Volhound:
I didn't pre-judge you but now have seen that you have no desire or ability to discuss any issues because you are an absolute dullard who uses cartoonish symbols due to your absolute lack of any ability to articulate. People like you have to fly or spout symbols because you are too stupid to think for yourself.
By the way, the '19 year old hillbilly' reference was what us in the English-speaking world refer to as a figurative representation and was not to be taken literally as to a specific person. As I'm not being paid to educate fools like you, this is my last contribution to this thread and hope you enjoy the last years of you life in your parent's basement as much as you have enjoyed the first 40.
I didn't pre-judge you but now have seen that you have no desire or ability to discuss any issues because you are an absolute dullard who uses cartoonish symbols due to your absolute lack of any ability to articulate. People like you have to fly or spout symbols because you are too stupid to think for yourself.
By the way, the '19 year old hillbilly' reference was what us in the English-speaking world refer to as a figurative representation and was not to be taken literally as to a specific person. As I'm not being paid to educate fools like you, this is my last contribution to this thread and hope you enjoy the last years of you life in your parent's basement as much as you have enjoyed the first 40.
bulldog
you are way off - the topic isn't issues, which is what you made it about. It wasn't about your prejudices either, I just decided to comment on them. Your reading conprehension is in question. If the hillbilly reference was figurative, then it shows your ignorance even more than in the literal sense. Instead of wondering/asking figuratively what others (hillbillies)are doing to justify having a flag on their car/truck, do you ask yourself what you are doing for your community/country. Why should anybody have to justify why they have a flag or consider themselves patriotic?
From your tough talk, I would think that little cartoon figures wouldn't bother you. The reason you got it was b/c the topic wasn't about your pre-conceived notions of hillbillies in pickups, which brings it's own connotations with it - you know it - figuratively or literally.
I responded b/c I drive a pickup with a flag on it and I felt I represent that figurative group that you lump together in whatever category in your closed mind.
I started the topic to gain knowledge and insight, not to force an opinion on someone or pass judgement.
Do you really think that you you should be paid for your opinions when you can't even stick to the topic? Very pompous!
I can't really articulate how I will conclude -
vol
you are way off - the topic isn't issues, which is what you made it about. It wasn't about your prejudices either, I just decided to comment on them. Your reading conprehension is in question. If the hillbilly reference was figurative, then it shows your ignorance even more than in the literal sense. Instead of wondering/asking figuratively what others (hillbillies)are doing to justify having a flag on their car/truck, do you ask yourself what you are doing for your community/country. Why should anybody have to justify why they have a flag or consider themselves patriotic?
From your tough talk, I would think that little cartoon figures wouldn't bother you. The reason you got it was b/c the topic wasn't about your pre-conceived notions of hillbillies in pickups, which brings it's own connotations with it - you know it - figuratively or literally.
I responded b/c I drive a pickup with a flag on it and I felt I represent that figurative group that you lump together in whatever category in your closed mind.
I started the topic to gain knowledge and insight, not to force an opinion on someone or pass judgement.
Do you really think that you you should be paid for your opinions when you can't even stick to the topic? Very pompous!
I can't really articulate how I will conclude -
vol
Hate is about the only thing you get from Liberals and the only thing you have gotten from a liberal in years ....
Their only method of communication to to bash and tear down...I mean look at the silly ads by Kerry, someone who onced called the US ARMY and anyone in Vietnam a War Crimminal. Ok, a real role model here is just bashing instead of compaigning...
You notice Bush is just staying clear of this play...he probably figures no need to help Kerry destroy himself...
The last Liberal Presidents have been disasters...I don't think either is any more or less patriotic but the Conservative at least looks at Country every once in a while were as a Liberal uses it as more of Need to know basis.
The Country's rep was so weak coming into 2000, much like in 1980....Liberals are never good international spokes people and please spare me the Carter BS...that makes me laugh...the country was held hostage by a parking lot called Iran for a year while the Liberal threw harsh words in their directions...give me a break...
Prior to 2000, we were getting bombed in ports, buildings, embassys...etc..and we did nothing...
It is quite clear the Conservative at least cares about the country's rep and isn't so much caught up in one's self preservation.
Kerry has little chance here, so save your votes...Bush wins easily...
Have fun kids
HH
Their only method of communication to to bash and tear down...I mean look at the silly ads by Kerry, someone who onced called the US ARMY and anyone in Vietnam a War Crimminal. Ok, a real role model here is just bashing instead of compaigning...
You notice Bush is just staying clear of this play...he probably figures no need to help Kerry destroy himself...
The last Liberal Presidents have been disasters...I don't think either is any more or less patriotic but the Conservative at least looks at Country every once in a while were as a Liberal uses it as more of Need to know basis.
The Country's rep was so weak coming into 2000, much like in 1980....Liberals are never good international spokes people and please spare me the Carter BS...that makes me laugh...the country was held hostage by a parking lot called Iran for a year while the Liberal threw harsh words in their directions...give me a break...
Prior to 2000, we were getting bombed in ports, buildings, embassys...etc..and we did nothing...
It is quite clear the Conservative at least cares about the country's rep and isn't so much caught up in one's self preservation.
Kerry has little chance here, so save your votes...Bush wins easily...
Have fun kids
HH
"The last Liberal Presidents have been disasters...I don't think either is any more or less patriotic but the Conservative at least looks at Country every once in a while were as a Liberal uses it as more of Need to know basis."
Hello economic surplus, quite a feat considering we had to recover from Reaganomics.
Dumbya is incurring a debt that we will suffer for generations to come and could destroy social security.
"The Country's rep was so weak coming into 2000, much like in 1980....Liberals are never good international spokes people and please spare me the Carter BS..."
I live abroad, anti-American sentiment has been sharply increased by dumbya.
The dumb downed "average joe redneck" image that has been marketed to the U.S. public by repubs since Reagan or before does nothing to benefit our international image and if anything gives fuel to the fire for the stupid American stereotype.
Hello economic surplus, quite a feat considering we had to recover from Reaganomics.
Dumbya is incurring a debt that we will suffer for generations to come and could destroy social security.
"The Country's rep was so weak coming into 2000, much like in 1980....Liberals are never good international spokes people and please spare me the Carter BS..."
I live abroad, anti-American sentiment has been sharply increased by dumbya.
The dumb downed "average joe redneck" image that has been marketed to the U.S. public by repubs since Reagan or before does nothing to benefit our international image and if anything gives fuel to the fire for the stupid American stereotype.
