I just wanna know if some of these places, this place in particular, discourage patients from paying their debts, I'm sure they've helped people recover, or at least hope so, if they dont list how much it costs on the website then it's gotta be fucking expensive, they even list "scholarships"
12 steps you make amends, the center here isn't a 12 stepper but does have some GA concepts.
Bottom line, I got fucked. and, if by the grace of God Almighty, I somehow get fucked by these quacks, I've never met or talked to I would seriously consider becoming a priest.
if the place "treats" the patient that it's not his fault he has mental/physiological/blah blah issues I really dont wanna have to express to him to do the right thing.
All I was looking for was a poster who knew first-hand, or if they had a friend that had been in inpatient treatment, or even at this facility on the east coast.
Thanks for the concern, especially to those Canadians and Boston natives I offended with my last few posts
12 steps you make amends, the center here isn't a 12 stepper but does have some GA concepts.
Bottom line, I got fucked. and, if by the grace of God Almighty, I somehow get fucked by these quacks, I've never met or talked to I would seriously consider becoming a priest.
if the place "treats" the patient that it's not his fault he has mental/physiological/blah blah issues I really dont wanna have to express to him to do the right thing.
All I was looking for was a poster who knew first-hand, or if they had a friend that had been in inpatient treatment, or even at this facility on the east coast.
Thanks for the concern, especially to those Canadians and Boston natives I offended with my last few posts
Ive set up a handicapping construct similar to an investment portfolio. On this current pace I will have enough monies in 3 years to close my salon (or at least work 1-2 days a week) and play golf, travel, blah blah,
anyway, as per my comment Indians I personally cant consider myself a pro until I can retire, lol, isnt that true though?
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Not anymore Matt, I ended the nail part 4 years ago, It was a pain, and truthfully, I just prefer things being simple. Coloring hair, some straightners, some perms, no problems,,,
is it OPI? (I will pick some up for my girl) if you know the name of the product.
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is it OPI? (I will pick some up for my girl) if you know the name of the product.
tater
Astute observation
My input on this based on 13+ years of working with recovering substance abusers is that in 90% of cases, inpatient is a big waste of valuable resources - either insurance money or personal cash.
Regardless of how long one spends inpatient, the "program" will eventually become outpatient anyway.
Inpatient can be helpful in substance abuse recovery for those who have become so strung out that they are in poor physical health - malnourished etc. It can also help for those who are coming from a home environment where other residents are abusing the target substances.
But in the case of gambling, the bottom line is the person must be willing to say No to the omnipresent opportunities to gamble. Whether one goes "off the street" for a month or two won't change the need to Say No once he's back in the world. May as well just start right up with 24hours at a time until it's no longer desired.
right, that's what I was thinking: I can see how inpatient is necessary when addicted to, let's say, cocaine because you can't do cocaine when you are inpatient, thus lessening the addiction.
But gambling? One could feasibly call one of their friends when inpatient and say "put a dime on the magic tonight I got a good feeling"
But gambling? One could feasibly call one of their friends when inpatient and say "put a dime on the magic tonight I got a good feeling"
Excellent advice, however some people need the structure and the month(s) of not being able to get their vice no matter what. It makes it easier when you get out since you basically have a head start on quitting, it's much more difficult to rationalize gambling, drinking, drugging, whatever, after you have spent time and money getting help and doing intensive self reflection on daily basis.
Just my opinion. If you feel you have "no control", inpatient is the way to go. If you know you have a problem, but are actively seeking help (which you appear to be doing), and are able to stop for even a short period of time, you might want to think about just doing out-patient meetings and see how it goes as Barman suggested. It is a large financial commitment that you may have to make more than once if you need to stay past the first 28 days, or you relapse.
I'm speaking from the experience I got in helping my girl friend stop using drugs, but as you will learn, all addictions are very similar no matter what they are and addicts of all kinds displays the same sorts of behaviors. Good luck with whatever you do, it takes a real strong person to admit they have lost control and have an addiction to anything.
Everyone that answered has an addictive personality. Myself included. Just know that you are among peers. What has helped me in the past, (I've been dealing with this for the past forty years) has been complete abstinence, the longer the more refreshing the feeling and the stress reduction is fantastic, It's like a vacation., but we all go back. I manage it pretty good now. I've developed a winning method and as someone mentioned earlier, gambling is not the problem, losing is. It really is true.
Anyways I digress, just stop cold turkey, stop coming here, stop hanging around with your buddies that gamble and get a constructive hobby to pass the time. Inpatient will not work if you return to the same environment.
If you want to stop, say goodby to your gambling lifestyle and gambling friends find something else to do. GL
Anyways I digress, just stop cold turkey, stop coming here, stop hanging around with your buddies that gamble and get a constructive hobby to pass the time. Inpatient will not work if you return to the same environment.
If you want to stop, say goodby to your gambling lifestyle and gambling friends find something else to do. GL
That actually is true. Whenever A&E/other television specials are on about gambling addiction or the news reports about some terrible degenerate it's always the lottery, slots, or video poker. Those three are the crack cocaine of gambling.
It's much easier to go broke playing the lottery or slot machines too. First off, playing scratch off lotto tickets are akin to laying -1000 -1000 on a sports game if you mathematically equated the odds. I've never ventured into slots, but of course they are rigged and gambling addicts will always lose it all.
I'm sure there are a few sports degenerates who have lost it all and go to intreatment centers but it's definitely the minority out of people who seek treatment.
So, you're a bookie, and you want your money from this guy that can't pay you? If he were my relative, I'd tell him to tell the bookie to fuck off. If you really want to get paid, write most of it off, ask for a small settlement, and cut the guy off. You can't collect from someone that doesn't have the money, and it sounds like this guy has a problem. Maybe if he gets help, he'll come back and pay what he already owes.I just wanna know if some of these places, this place in particular, discourage patients from paying their debts, I'm sure they've helped people recover, or at least hope so, if they dont list how much it costs on the website then it's gotta be fucking expensive, they even list "scholarships"
12 steps you make amends, the center here isn't a 12 stepper but does have some GA concepts.
Bottom line, I got fucked. and, if by the grace of God Almighty, I somehow get fucked by these quacks, I've never met or talked to I would seriously consider becoming a priest.
if the place "treats" the patient that it's not his fault he has mental/physiological/blah blah issues I really dont wanna have to express to him to do the right thing.
All I was looking for was a poster who knew first-hand, or if they had a friend that had been in inpatient treatment, or even at this facility on the east coast.
Thanks for the concern, especially to those Canadians and Boston natives I offended with my last few posts
Wtf? How would you feel if you built your offshore account up to a sizeable amount, then they froze your account and told you to "fuck off". If you pulled this shit 50 years ago you'd end up in a ditch. There is NO excuse for stiffing.
The standard protocol here is to give your client a little extra time, but to work out a settlement plan.
I don't have any compassion for bookies that extend credit to degenerates and suck the blood out of them like leeches. I'm an honorable guy and I've played with a number of bookies. I'm even friends with some. But bookies do nothing but sit on their ass and collect money from people that can't afford to pay them. If they can't collect all of their debts, then tough shit.
If I had a relative that was in deep and had a problem that was ruining his life, the bookie would be the last person I would be concerned about.
If bookies don't want to get stiffed, then they should make their players post up. That would decrease the book's profit by a lot, though, so it won't happen. Getting stiffed is part of the easy living that is booking.
I understand what you're saying. In very few situations there are extenuating circumstances. Obviously if a book is letting a jobless degenerate who's $20k in debt bet $5000 a game, I have no real sympathy for them.
In any case, it's your responsibility as a man to take the moral high ground and pay up your gambling losses. You and only you are responsible for your actions. I know i'd be furious if I won huge on 5dimes and they decide to weezle their way out of it when I decide to cashout. If you can't afford to pay it off then don't take/place the wager.
In any case, it's your responsibility as a man to take the moral high ground and pay up your gambling losses. You and only you are responsible for your actions. I know i'd be furious if I won huge on 5dimes and they decide to weezle their way out of it when I decide to cashout. If you can't afford to pay it off then don't take/place the wager.
