They got cheffed up alright, tossed around like a salad...
IDK why peeps continue to roll with this logic, if anything, it supports the opposing team most of the time, just like last night...
Easy WINNA.
Not calling you out or anything, when you thought Brady had 30 INT's this year I figured you probably didn't follow as much this year or something (if Brady threw 30 INT's ya think maybe you would've heard about it? Seems like that may have been a big story) but this breakdown of the Vikes game did crack me up when I read it. I bet TB -6.5 this game so remember it well, they had 2 losses and off a bye, it was a must win. Even during Brady's struggles during the year, he was crushing the mediocre/bad defenses that couldn't get consistent pressure and that was the category Vikes fell into.
Minnesota was dominated after the 1st quarter of this game. It was 23-6 after TB drove for a TD to begin the 2nd half and basically over. I really have no clue how you watched that and thought Minnesota should've won because TB got a free 3pts to end the half. They were up 3 scores mid 3rd quarter.
box score: https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401220332
That is probably the most loose "Should have beat them" I've seen someone say, and I've seen a lot.
When I switched from defensive stats to offensive stats it somehow went to TB stats from last year. Thus I had the wrong number for interceptions on the year. I didnt know the stat off the top of my head for TB. I dont just post BS.
In terms of the Tampa game I watched it and definitely thought Minnesota out played Tampa the entire half and the bullshit pass interference on a hail mary before the half stuck out in my mind.
So lets play the game out.
Minnesota gets the kick off and drives to Tampa 32. Cousins get sacked and loses 8 yards and knocks them out of field goal range (although this is questionable see future).
Tampa starts at their own 10 and get one first down. They get a 61 yard punt and Minnesota gets the ball at their own 16. Punt flipped the field. Minnesota proceeds to use 8.5 minutes up on the clock and dives for a touchdown. They proceed to miss the extra point.
Tampa Bay goes 3 and out.
Minnesota gets the kickoff and drives to Tampa Bay 14 yard line. One run and 2 incomplete passes. We miss a chip shot 36 yard field goal.
Tampa gets a 20 yard pass, 2 runs and a 48 yard pass for a touchdown. I dont recall the long pass but up to this point they had 2 first downs and we are down 7-6.
Minnesota drives down the field again and misses another field goal. At this point if Bailey does his job Minnesota should be up 13-7. Time of possession and yards are probably 2-1 for both. If you watched the same game you would have to feel awful fortunate to be leading 7-6.
NFL really wants the Tom Brady story....if you believe in conspiracy theories and this was the game to see who would have the lead for the wild card spot.
Next drive Tampa has third and 6 and get 3. Wait penalty on Minnesota. Two plays later Minnesota interception......wait penalty on Minnesota. Sound familar to yesterday. 8 penalties for 95 yards against KC and 1 for 5 yards against TB. Tampa scores a touchdown. In a first half dominated by Minnesota like I said....Tampa leads 14-6.
Just to top it off Tampa gets the ball back with 21 left on their own 20 and one time out and they score a field goal after a hail mary and they call pass interfernce on MInnesota. You have to be kidding me.
Minnesota dominated TB in the first half. For the game time of possession was 2 to 1. Minnesota had 27 to 17 in first downs. Bailey missed 3 field goals and an extra point. Missed field goals have a way of really changing the momentum of games.....3 is huge. The 22 guys on the field are basically saying I am out their wrecking my body and you did what?
So if you had Tampa minus 7 in that game you won and covered......but I can't say it was the right side. That happens sometimes in gambling.....wrong side and win the bet....sometimes you have the right side and lose the bet.
So I stand by my statement that I watched that game and was not that impressed with Tampa.
Not too interested in a recap of a regular season game from 3 months ago but ebb and flow happens, saying you weren’t impressed with Tampa that day and Minn should’ve won are two different things. Cousins 5 sacks/6 yards a pass, Brady 8.5yds pass/0 sacks.....I don’t think Minnesota should’ve won. I think they had a good start to a football game, that’s about it. It happens.
Also, NO got plenty of calls vs Tampa. They just lost anyway so no one cares.
Also, Vita Vea is the best run defender in the nfl and he didn’t play that game (running was Minnesota’s main source of yardage early in the game)
Also (1 more I guess), cherry picking and game to form an opinion on any of these teams isn’t wise. Chiefs didn’t look great the final 2 months of the season.
Tampa D gave up big passing games to NO/ATL 2x/LAR in the regular season, clearly they were playing a lot better come playoffs
Also, NO got plenty of calls vs Tampa. They just lost anyway so no one cares.
Also, Vita Vea is the best run defender in the nfl and he didn’t play that game (running was Minnesota’s main source of yardage early in the game)
Also (1 more I guess), cherry picking and game to form an opinion on any of these teams isn’t wise. Chiefs didn’t look great the final 2 months of the season.
Tampa D gave up big passing games to NO/ATL 2x/LAR in the regular season, clearly they were playing a lot better come playoffs
So are you a conspiracy theorist?
If so, why was TB 1 of the most penalized teams in the league.
I think the mind just tends to run where it wants to when the results don’t comeback how you expect them to.
Brady top 5 in all major advanced stats this year even if he did struggle vs the better teams in the regular season, calling him below average wasn’t correct.
If so, why was TB 1 of the most penalized teams in the league.
I think the mind just tends to run where it wants to when the results don’t comeback how you expect them to.
Brady top 5 in all major advanced stats this year even if he did struggle vs the better teams in the regular season, calling him below average wasn’t correct.
Tampa played way better than KC yesterday. KC didnt seem to have their offensive mojo......that is for sure. The injury to the offensive line and Mahomes toe injury probably had some effect..but going into the game I didnt think it was going to be a major factor. Not to take away that Tampa played well yesterday in all aspects of the game. Looking online with comments and even the announcers commented on the penalty disparity. Definitely helped Tampa but I am not sure it changed the outcome. Being behind does make you play differently. I also think Reid should get some of the blame and not much talk about that. The timeout forcing a third and 2.....stupid and it cost them. I jokingly say some coach needs to pay me $250,000 a year just to be in charge of clock management. So many coaches just make bone head clock management calls during the game. If I am ever behind I would go no huddle offense until we have the lead. KC didnt to start the second half in no huddle and it was a mistake. I said the same thing in the Green Bay game. Rodgers kept running the clock down trying to get an offsides call.....eating up the clock (Tampa jumped offsides exactly once in the second half). Basically. traded a minute or two for 5 yards. Also poor coaching. Another minute or two at the end of the game and they may have come back and won.
In betting you basically make bets based on what happened before and try to project that into the future. In the Minnesota game it could have easily been 13-10 Minnesota going into the second half. Does the game play out differently? Just guessing at that point but watching the game I wasnt impressed with Tampa....especially knowing that Minnesota was an average team on the year.
In the game against KC early in the year. KC dominated that game according to the stats....the final score of 3 points didn't reflect the box score.
Against Green Bay. Tampa took it to Green Bay in the first half. Completing 6/6 third downs. Their coach played to win going for it at mid field on fourth and 1. The second half was a different story. Ask any Packer fan. Brady almost brought Green Bay back into a game they should have won going away throwing interceptions in the second half and could have easily thrown more....and I was rooting for Tampa in the game. They held on and won. You can ask Packer fans about the penalty calls/no calls to see what they think.
I will say this in terms of betting. If you could see Mondays paper on a game and get two stats: time of possession 40 minutes, opponent 20 minutes and first downs 27 to opponents 17. You would go broke betting on the the team with 17 first downs.
In betting you basically make bets based on what happened before and try to project that into the future. In the Minnesota game it could have easily been 13-10 Minnesota going into the second half. Does the game play out differently? Just guessing at that point but watching the game I wasnt impressed with Tampa....especially knowing that Minnesota was an average team on the year.
In the game against KC early in the year. KC dominated that game according to the stats....the final score of 3 points didn't reflect the box score.
Against Green Bay. Tampa took it to Green Bay in the first half. Completing 6/6 third downs. Their coach played to win going for it at mid field on fourth and 1. The second half was a different story. Ask any Packer fan. Brady almost brought Green Bay back into a game they should have won going away throwing interceptions in the second half and could have easily thrown more....and I was rooting for Tampa in the game. They held on and won. You can ask Packer fans about the penalty calls/no calls to see what they think.
I will say this in terms of betting. If you could see Mondays paper on a game and get two stats: time of possession 40 minutes, opponent 20 minutes and first downs 27 to opponents 17. You would go broke betting on the the team with 17 first downs.
Fair enough, my main point was just that a lot happens during a game but I think most would say if a team is up 2-3 possessions the entire 2nd half then hard to say the other team “should’ve won” or got robbed because of 3pts.
and then also just cherry picking one game doesn’t really work either, Minnesota beat GB as well. Games 3hrs, it happens.
and then also just cherry picking one game doesn’t really work either, Minnesota beat GB as well. Games 3hrs, it happens.
He also had the highest QB rating of any of the SB he’s played in last night too. There’s a lot more things that can be thrown out there to argue he may actually be peaking now at the ripe old age of 43...
I don’t know how anyone that thought Brady was or is a below average QB ever in his entire NFL career even bothers to watch football, much less wager their hard earned money on it. It’s pure ignorance...
Sports are big business. Some of it is the stars are just great players and because of this they are able to bring their teams to playoffs and championships. There is that. But also it can seem like they get way more calls than their opponents. Lebron dives to the basket and gets the call....guy on the other team drives to the basket and no call. Conspiracy? Not sure. Just from what I have seen.
I only saw a few of Tampa's games and Brady didn't look that good on quite a few of his passes. The Green Bay game in particular stuck out in my mind. Some rainbow throws where the receiver beat his guy and he under threw him by 10 to 15 yards at least. In that case I judged him by what I saw. Last year I saw a couple of his games and he looked fairly ordinary too.
I said the same thing about Rodgers to a few years ago. Some Packers fans even agreed with me. His might have been an injury and he has come back strong since then but the numbers backed it up. There becomes a time when because of age or past injuries players abilities diminish. A good example is Manning winning his last Super Bowl. Hall of fame quarterback that no longer had it.
I only saw a few of Tampa's games and Brady didn't look that good on quite a few of his passes. The Green Bay game in particular stuck out in my mind. Some rainbow throws where the receiver beat his guy and he under threw him by 10 to 15 yards at least. In that case I judged him by what I saw. Last year I saw a couple of his games and he looked fairly ordinary too.
I said the same thing about Rodgers to a few years ago. Some Packers fans even agreed with me. His might have been an injury and he has come back strong since then but the numbers backed it up. There becomes a time when because of age or past injuries players abilities diminish. A good example is Manning winning his last Super Bowl. Hall of fame quarterback that no longer had it.
