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Yesterday’s attempt by the Department of Justice to withdraw the case against Trump's former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn after he had already pled guilty has roiled the country with its assault on the rule of law. Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI about five phone calls between himself and the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, on December 29, the same day the Obama administration announced retaliatory measures for Russian interference in the 2016 election. Flynn told the officials that he and Kislyak did not talk about lifting Russian sanctions after Trump was inaugurated, but news quickly broke that they had. He resigned, pled guilty, and cooperated with the investigation of Special Counsel Robert Mueller into Russian interference in the 2016 election.



Flynn resigned on February 13, 2017, and the next day Trump summoned FBI Director James Comey to the Oval Office and asked him to drop the case against Flynn. Comey continued to investigate Russian connections to the Trump campaign, and Trump fired him on May 9, 2017. The next day he met in the Oval Office with Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, and with Kislyak. He told the men that “I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job…. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” He added: “I’m not under investigation.” American journalists were barred from the event, but Russian journalists took photos. Comey’s firing led to the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election, with Mueller essentially taking over where Comey left off.



Today we learned that the DOJ move to dismiss the case against Flynn came after a phone call yesterday between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin in which they discussed the US investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. While the White House simply said that the two leaders had discussed the pandemic, arms control, and the 75th anniversary of Victory in Europe day, Trump told reporters: “I said, ‘You know, it’s a very appropriate time, because things are falling out now and coming in line showing what a hoax this whole investigation was, it was a total disgrace, and I wouldn’t be surprised if you see a lot of things happen over the next number of weeks…. This is just one piece of a very dishonest puzzle.”


First off, let’s be clear that the US intelligence community, Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, all have concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump’s campaign. In January 2017, shortly before Trump took office, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released a report that aggregated the findings of the FBI the CIA, and the NSA (National Security Agency, which operates under the authority of the Director of National Intelligence).



It said: “Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations. We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.”



Since this assessment, Trump has attacked FBI agents for launching an illegal investigation and setting out to destroy him for political reasons. But the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, chaired by Republican Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina, has consistently supported the work of the intelligence community. On April 21, 2020, it released the fourth of five volumes about Russian interference in 2016. This volume examined the “sources, tradecraft, and analytic work behind the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) that determined Russia conducted an unprecedented, multi-faceted campaign to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.” In other words, was the FBI out to get Trump, or was it doing its business the way it should?



Like the previous ones, this volume agreed with the intelligence community’s assessment that Russia had interfered in the 2016 election to favor Trump. It concluded that intelligence analysts were under “no political pressure to reach specific conclusions.” Chairman Burr said “The ICA reflects strong tradecraft, sound analytical reasoning, and proper justification of disagreement in the one analytical line where it occurred.” Additionally, Burr warned that Russian interference is ongoing, and threatens the 2020 election.



The Mueller Report also established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election. Russian operatives “carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton,” and they stole emails from the Democratic National Committee, as well as Democratic officials, and released the stolen documents.



But that’s not all from the Mueller Report. It “identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign.” The next sentence is difficult, but it’s important to read the original, and the one after it, because they are so very deliberately worded: “Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” Then it added: “A statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts.”



Essentially, the Mueller Report says that the Russians wanted to help Trump win, and the Trump campaign was willing to accept help, and that there was evidence the two sides were working together, but Mueller did not have enough evidence—in part because witnesses were lying or withholding evidence—to make a criminal indictment.



Still, Trump has spent his whole presidency trying to convince Americans that all of these independent career officials and elected officials are persecuting him because they didn’t want him to be elected (although, of course, if so, all their efforts were for naught, because he IS president, and no one has seriously challenged his election). In addition to attacking the intelligence community, he has tried to advance the theory that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that attacked the 2016 election-- a theory that in her testimony before the House Intelligence Committee Russia expert Fiona Hill explained was Russian propaganda.



And now, Trump’s loyalist in the Department of Justice, Attorney General Barr, has thrown out the findings of his own Justice Department inspector general, Michael Horowitz, who concluded in December 2019 that the FBI investigation of Trump’s campaign was not politically motivated, and that it was begun legitimately. The argument for throwing out the Flynn case is that the FBI interview in which Flynn lied did not have “a legitimate investigative basis,” and therefore the statements were not material even if they were false. This is directly counter to what the DOJ’s own inspector general established.



Barr has appointed his own special inspector to look into the origins of the Russia probe. He tapped Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, whose inquiry quietly shifted to become a criminal investigation last October. Some observers are concerned that Durham will prosecute those involved in the Russia investigation to give Trump political fodder before the 2020 election. Trump’s comments to reporters today, along with a tweet, were ominous. He tweeted: “Yesterday was a BIG day for Justice in the USA…. Congratulations to General Flynn, and many others. I do believe there is MUCH more to come! Dirty Cops and Crooked Politicians do not go well together!"



It seems equally likely to me that Trump is simply undermining opposition in the intelligence community so that he can move to lift the sanctions Russia so badly wants gone. In any case, Russia looks to be as big an issue in 2020 as it was four years ago.


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Today the president tweeted a lot, even for him. In one hour this morning, he tweeted or retweeted 52 times. By the end of the day he had averaged a tweet every 7.5 minutes. None of the tweets mentioned the almost 80,000 Americans who have died from Covid-19, or any plans for addressing the pandemic.



Trump appears to be upset about the recent prominence of former President Barack Obama in the news. On Friday, a tape of Obama talking to about 3000 former staffers leaked. In it, Obama expressed dismay over the decision of the Justice Department to try to drop the case against former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. He warned that “our basic understanding of the rule of law is at risk,” and noted that once a nation abandons the rule of law the destruction of its legal government is often rapid. He also called Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic an “absolute chaotic disaster.” Since leaks from Obama officials are scarcer than hen’s teeth, we have to assume this leak was deliberate.


Trump’s morning tweetstorm makes the president seem preoccupied with Obama. He seems tied to the idea that the FBI was investigating the links of some of the people on his campaign to Russia, a situation he called “OBAMAGATE!” on Twitter this morning. He retweeted the claim by conservative talk show host Buck Sexton that Obama “used his last weeks in office to target incoming officials and sabotage the new administration.” Trump added to the tweet “The biggest political crime in American history, by far!” He retweeted an account that, at the time, had 43 followers, saying, “Unless people are indited [sic] and put in prison the corruption will continue. People will continue to run with fake news and conspiracies until they are shown individuals being handcuffed and prosecuted. Its [sic] also time to fire people from the FBI, CIA, DOJ, DNI #CleanHouse.”



Trump’s power struggle against any oversight of his presidency is approaching a critical moment. On Tuesday, the Supreme Court will hear arguments about whether Congress or state prosecutors can investigate him for potential wrongdoing. There are three different cases, which involve two issues.


The first two cases have to do with congressional oversight of the president. The House Oversight Committee is investigating Trump’s finances, following his former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen’s testimony last year about a $130,000 payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels to keep her quiet about their sexual relations, a payment that should have been disclosed. Cohen also testified that Trump routinely exaggerated his assets when getting loans and deflated them when it came time to pay taxes. A year ago, in April 2019, the committee issued a subpoena to the president’s accounting firm, Mazars USA, seeking the relevant financial information.



The second case is similar. House committees have subpoenaed financial records from Capital One and Deutsche Bank to investigate the “questionable financing” of Trump’s businesses before his presidency, to see whether “any foreign actor has sought to compromise or holds leverage, financial or otherwise, over Donald Trump, his family, his business, or his associates.” (Remember, in 2008, Donald Trump, Jr. famously said at a New York real-estate conference “In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets…. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”)



The third case involves the question of whether a president can be investigated for violating state law. Cyrus Vance, Jr., the Manhattan district attorney, is also investigating hush money Trump paid to Daniels and to another woman, Karen McDougal, a Playboy model who also says she had an affair with Trump. Vance and state prosecutors have subpoenaed several years of tax documents from Mazars USA concerning both Trump himself and his business, the Trump Organization.



An internal memo adopted by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel in 1973, during the Watergate crisis, says that a sitting president cannot be indicted for a crime. This is why Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who was operating within the Justice Department, never entertained the question of whether the president had committed a crime: Mueller never considered that part of his charge.



The question at stake before the Supreme Court this week is not whether a president can be indicted, but whether he can even be investigated. Trump’s lawyers maintain the answer is no. They say that congressional committees can only investigate subjects about which Congress can make laws; they can’t investigate whether the president broke the law because that would violate our system of the separation of powers. States can’t investigate the president because they can abuse that power, gumming up a president’s schedule so that he cannot perform his duties. More, Trump’s lawyers are saying that not only does the president enjoy immunity from oversight, so do his businesses.



Every court that has heard these cases has sided against the president, in favor of oversight.



There is also precedent that bears on these questions. In 1974, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that President Richard Nixon had to hand over to a special prosecutor tapes he had recorded in the Oval Office with advisors about the Watergate scandal. Nixon did so, and resigned shortly thereafter. In 1997, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that President Bill Clinton did not have immunity from civil litigation for events that happened before he took office, and that he must respond to a harassment suit by former Arkansas state employee Paula Jones. This case led to the Monica Lewinsky scandal.



On its face, it seems like the court’s decision should be clear, as lawyer George Conway, who ghostwrote briefs for Paula Jones, explained Friday in the Washington Post. But this Supreme Court has indicated a willingness to break precedent in favor of a strong executive. Still, there is yet one more twist in this saga: because of the pandemic, the arguments will be streamed live, and open for the public to tune in, so it is likely the arguments on both sides will be in the news.


The importance of the upcoming Supreme Court arguments might have had something to do with today’s tweet storm.


-5/10 - Heather Cox Richardson
 

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WF, with the on going Pandemic, Aids is on the rise with MobDsters not practicing social distancing the numbers are highest in the Baltimore area with these Small Sgt Poison MobDsters , they advise death is imminent with the deadly combo of the two Viruses
 

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Who in here, or reading this, thinks that they can change the mind of the "other side." Either you like Trump or you don't. Why do y'all go back and forth like you are going to change the other sides mind All Of A Sudden?? Talk about a waste of time.....

Good to see we have 24\7 Politics here in the Main Forum. I know there aren't any sports, but there's also a zillion other things you could choose to post. smh
 

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True, not sure this liberal “historian” is changing anyone’s minds nor is the right “historian” changing anyone’s mind
 
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Who in here, or reading this, thinks that they can change the mind of the "other side." Either you like Trump or you don't. Why do y'all go back and forth like you are going to change the other sides mind All Of A Sudden?? Talk about a waste of time.....

Good to see we have 24\7 Politics here in the Main Forum. I know there aren't any sports, but there's also a zillion other things you could choose to post. smh



Yeah this isn’t a liberal. She doesn’t take sides.


She’s a historian who studies the contrast between image and reality in American news.


With all the agendas and fake shit out there. This is refreshing.

Its not designed to make you change everything you stand for. You can think and say what you want or be ignorant if you like(generally speaking). I’m not trying to change that. I’m just posting non biased impartial world news. You can’t get any better than this in America. That’s just being real.



When sports fully return....the forum sections should go back to their respective purposes.
 
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And speak of the devil....5/11 news writeup


The announcement last week by the Department of Justice that it would drop criminal charges against Trump’s former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, who twice pleaded guilty of lying to the FBI, has set up a conflict between the Trump administration and the rule of law.



On Thursday, Timothy Shea, interim U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia and a protege of Attorney General William Barr, filed a motion to drop the charges against Flynn just hours after the lead career prosecutor in the case withdrew. Shea argued that the Russia investigation was not legitimate, and that therefore Flynn’s lies to the FBI were immaterial.



On Sunday, Mary McCord, who was the acting assistant Attorney General for National Security from 2016 to 2017, early on in the Russia investigation, wrote an op-ed in the New York Times accusing Barr of twisting her words to justify dropping the case against Flynn. McCord noted that both the DOJ and the FBI recognized that Flynn’s lies about his discussions with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak would leave him open to blackmail from Russians. What they disagreed about was when to warn the White House that Flynn was compromised. Barr’s many quotations of her to suggest she opposed the investigation were taken out of context, she wrote; she did not “anywhere suggest that the F.B.I.’s interview of Mr. Flynn was unconstitutional, unlawful or not ‘tethered’ to any legitimate counterintelligence purpose.”



Today nearly 2000 former officials in the Justice Department called for Barr to resign from his office and for Congress to censure him. The former officials charged him with introducing “political interference in the Department’s law enforcement decisions.” "Attorney General Barr’s repeated actions to use the Department as a tool to further President Trump’s personal and political interests have undermined any claim to the deference that courts usually apply to the Department’s decisions about whether or not to prosecute a case," they wrote. “Governments that use the enormous power of law enforcement to punish their enemies and reward their allies are not constitutional republics they are autocracies.”



In the New York Times, Georgetown law professors Neal K. Katyal and Joshua A. Geltzer warned that the dismissal of the case against Flynn was not simply about letting off a friend of the president. They noted that “this move embeds into official U.S. policy an extremist view of law enforcement as the enemy of the American people.” The Trump administration’s actions condemn fundamental U.S. institutions: the FBI and the Department of Justice. If the goal was simply to shield Flynn, they note, Trump could have pardoned him. Instead, the Trump administration is discrediting the fundamental institutions that establish the rule of law.



This ties into Trump’s push today to spread the idea of “Obamagate.” He tweeted about this repeatedly on Sunday, but he ran into trouble at his news conference on Monday, a conference that was theoretically about the coronavirus. “Obamagate” is a new conspiracy theory suggesting either that President Barack Obama has committed treason by criticizing Trump on a leaked phone call or that Obama set up Flynn as part of a grand scheme to undermine the Trump campaign, and later administration, with a bogus Russia investigation. (There is no evidence of this, of course.)



Today Philip Rucker of the Washington Postasked Trump: “In one of your Mother’s Day tweets, you appeared to accuse President Obama of ‘the biggest political crime in American history, by far’ — those were your words. What crime exactly are you accusing President Obama of committing, and do you believe the Justice Department should prosecute him?”



“Uh, Obamagate. It’s been going on for a long time,” Trump said. “It’s been going on from before I even got elected, and it’s a disgrace that it happened, and if you look at what’s gone on, and if you look at now, all this information that’s being released — and from what I understand, that’s only the beginning — some terrible things happened, and it should never be allowed to happen in our country again.”


When Rucker pressed the president to explain what, exactly, the crime was, Trump replied: “You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to everybody. All you have to do is read the newspapers, except yours.”



A number of Trump loyalists are now throwing their weight behind this “Obamagate” meme and are calling for prosecution of those members of the FBI and DOJ that investigated Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election. Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) claimed that Flynn was entrapped and called it “tyranny,” saying that those responsible “ought to be prosecuted.” When asked about holding senior Obama administration officials accountable for the investigation that ensnared Flynn, Representative Devin Nunes (R-CA) the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee told a radio station, ““Nobody more than me wants to see these people prosecuted.”



(Nunes, you will recall, did not disclose during the impeachment hearings that he had been in contact with political operative Lev Parnas, who is now under indictment for contributing Russian money to American political campaigns.)


But as Trump’s people seek to prosecute officials in the Obama administration, Trump continues to maintain that he himself cannot be subject to oversight. Tomorrow, the Supreme Court will hear arguments on whether Trump can keep his financial records secret from Congress and state prosecutors. At heart, this is a question about whether the president is above the law.



And so, we struggle to preserve the rule of law in America, the fundamental principle on which this country was based.


Meanwhile, we learned tonight that a previously undisclosed report from the White House shows that numbers of coronavirus infections around the country are rising, not falling, as Trump has said. The coronavirus situation is so bad in the Navajo Nation in the U.S. Southwest that Doctors Without Borders, the international organization best known for sending medical professionals into third-world countries and international conflict zones, had dispatched a team to the U.S.


-5/11 -Heather Cox Richardson
 
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A number of Trump loyalists are now throwing their weight behind this “Obamagate” meme and are calling for prosecution of those members of the FBI and DOJ that investigated Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election. Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) claimed that Flynn was entrapped and called it “tyranny,” saying that those responsible “ought to be prosecuted.” When asked about holding senior Obama administration officials accountable for the investigation that ensnared Flynn, Representative Devin Nunes (R-CA) the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee told a radio station, ““Nobody more than me wants to see these people prosecuted.”




She’s not attacking. But I will. Sounds like she’s describing Dipshitzit, no?
 

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World facts? Historians see history as different than the next , it becomes opinion of how they interpret it

She has been called out before on her opinions

She doesn’t merely make certain assumptions (we all do that), she feels no need to engage with those who have different assumptions”

Heather Cox Richardson operates inside that liberal cocoon”

Richardson — who is a professor of American history at Boston College, found her name on a watchlist directory of academics at one time “that advance a radical agenda in lecture halls”

site describes its target as professors who “discriminate against conservative students, promote anti-American values, and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom.”


 
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World facts? Historians see history as different than the next , it becomes opinion of how they interpret it

She has been called out before on her opinions

She doesn’t merely make certain assumptions (we all do that), she feels no need to engage with those who have different assumptions”

Heather Cox Richardson operates inside that liberal cocoon”

Richardson — who is a professor of American history at Boston College, found her name on a watchlist directory of academics at one time “that advance a radical agenda in lecture halls”

site describes its target as professors who “discriminate against conservative students, promote anti-American values, and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom.”





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Can you cite those quotes? Lmao.






I think some homeless guy also called me an asshole for not giving him my change the other day.



It’s funny how they have to say “operates” because she isn’t a liberal lmfao. You’re going to have to find some stronger shit than that dude.

I haven’t seen anyone articulate American news and the contrast between image and reality in American news better than her. Not many can do it as skillfully as her. She can.


It’s not about reporting anything opinionated. No attacks. No biases. Just facts of the world. She puts it in context where she isn’t judging anyone other than laying out the facts of the situation. History repeats itself. She knows her history.
 
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You guys want memes to be entered as evidence in the court of law. Lmfao. Not saying she is implying that. She isn’t. I am. Lmfaooooo. Based on what I’ve seen HERE. She is 100000000000000000000% on the money.
 

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Your opinion you think she is.

How do you think she votes ?

Just saying people call her out. Not saying she is not entitled to her opinion, just not sure it’s world facts. But that’s your opinion. :)
 
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Your opinion you think she is.

How do you think she votes ?

Just saying people call her out. Not saying she is not entitled to her opinion, just not sure it’s world facts. But that’s your opinion. :)


Everyone calls everyone out today.

Is there anyone who hasn’t gotten a bad rep from someone else in life? Even Michael Jordan was considered an asshole.

Anyone who is the best at what they do is going to have doubters and haters. She’s the best I’ve ever seen. So it only makes sense she has detractors and people who want to shit on what she does.


I don’t care how she votes. All I care about is that she is impartial. And she isn’t a democrat and she isn’t a republican. She’s a historian who puts the constitution first. That’s very clear.
 
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Slow Mob at it again. Not everyone thinks the pandemic was fumbled thus making this an opinion. In all seriousness, did you graduate high school?

I'm guessing he struggled through high school, probably a C student - either that or he got his GED.

No way in hell did he continue his education past being a mediocre student through high school. He's just not very bright.
 
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She is a far far Leftist,that is all that matters,she hates the USA,she is a pig,scum


You know nothing about the United States you stupid twat
 
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I'm guessing he struggled through high school, probably a C student - either that or he got his GED.

No way in hell did he continue his education past being a mediocre student through high school. He's just not very bright.


Would be the 4839742884927483748274747283482947 time you were wrong. Nothing new here.
 

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Everyone calls everyone out today.

Is there anyone who hasn’t gotten a bad rep from someone else in life? Even Michael Jordan was considered an asshole.

Anyone who is the best at what they do is going to have doubters and haters. She’s the best I’ve ever seen. So it only makes sense she has detractors and people who want to shit on what she does.


I don’t care how she votes. All I care about is that she is impartial. And she isn’t a democrat and she isn’t a republican. She’s a historian who puts the constitution first. That’s very clear.

I hear ya. If she is impartial, she must have lots of writings from last presidency also?
 
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I hear ya. If she is impartial, she must have lots of writings from last presidency also?


Im sure she does. But not about to go look back 365x4 to see those. Enlighten me if you do. I’m sure she is talking a lot about how Trump had Hilary on the defenses and how her campaigning was weak and how the media was giving all the love and attention to trump. Most likely what she stated, because that’s what happened. She actually referred back to that election by saying the Trump admin is using the same tactics again. Trying to keep Biden on the defenses. Very interesting perspectives. I read it because she doesn’t attack Trump. What good is that shit? She simply calls it how it is.
 
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But I also don’t want to read something blaming the obama administration for this administrations mishaps. I don’t want to read something slurping on Trump. So this is as impartial as one can read up on in American news today.
 

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