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I hear you. But you have to admit, Trump is part of the problem. He helped create the division. Many decent Americans with values got turned off by his Twitter rants. The ME ME ME mantra.

Now he's winning some of them back. Because of what's going down now with the far leftist agenda. But it might be too late. And he's to blame for much of losing some "middle of the road" base in America.

Race relations, according to polling, actually hit an all time high in 2008, and have been going down hill steadily since 2008.

So if you blame Trump for it, you aren't being honest or aren't being intelligent.
 

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Bro, this has nothing to do with division.

Disagree. Our country is the most divided it's ever been since the Civil War. And Trump takes some responsibility for that.

I appreciate his "bluntness". I do. But as a president, you have to have more tact. Be more professional. He could have done better.
 

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VD is trolling you all. He knows the local governments are to blame for not putting an end to this nonsense. We all know it.
 

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Disagree. Our country is the most divided it's ever been since the Civil War. And Trump takes some responsibility for that.

I appreciate his "bluntness". I do. But as a president, you have to have more tact. Be more professional. He could have done better.

I agree with all of your points about Trump. I feel the same way but this is nothing man. During the Vietnam War, things were bad. This is nothing.
 

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Race relations, according to polling, actually hit an all time high in 2008, and have been going down hill steadily since 2008.

So if you blame Trump for it, you aren't being honest or aren't being intelligent.

I don't blame Trump. I mostly blame the media. But he does take a part of the blame for acting like a child at times.
 

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Disagree. Our country is the most divided it's ever been since the Civil War. And Trump takes some responsibility for that.

I appreciate his "bluntness". I do. But as a president, you have to have more tact. Be more professional. He could have done better.

Most conservatives bit their tongue and gritted through the Obama years, still respecting law, order, and customs.

Most liberals can not do the same for Trump.

Liberals are the ones that cause divisiveness, this is not really debatable IMO.
 

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I don't blame Trump. I mostly blame the media. But he does take a part of the blame for acting like a child at times.

But if you're going to say that, the Dems in the the house and senate are equally to blame too. Stormtroopers?
 

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I agree with all of your points about Trump. I feel the same way but this is nothing man. During the Vietnam War, things were bad. This is nothing.

The Vietnam era was something huge too. No doubt. But to say this is "nothing" as far as a country divided? I think you are completely off base with that.
 

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In Las Vegas, the Review Journal's original headline was "Left-wing anarchists planning protest of the Las Vegas Strip". Then they changed it to "activists". I wonder why the media would do that.

Then after it was over, they only wrote about it being peaceful and every single media outlet in the city refused to report on any rioting. Any ideas why they would do that?
 

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But if you're going to say that, the Dems in the the house and senate are equally to blame too.

Absolutely. 100%. I actually put more blame on the Dems for being so dishonest through all of this.
 

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The Vietnam era was something huge too. No doubt. But to say this is "nothing" as far as a country divided? I think you are completely off base with that.

This is where you're wrong brother. You're getting your perception about division from the media who is trying to divide us. Most families and normal people don't give two shits about Portland or Seattle. Hell, most aren't on Twitter and don't give a fuck what Trump says either.
 

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Most conservatives bit their tongue and gritted through the Obama years, still respecting law, order, and customs.

Most liberals can not do the same for Trump.

Liberals are the ones that cause divisiveness, this is not really debatable IMO.

Agree. I'm not saying Trump is to blame for this. I'm saying he has some culpability.
 

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Disagree. Our country is the most divided it's ever been since the Civil War. And Trump takes some responsibility for that.

That is completely wrong. As president, Trump should never take any responsibility for any problems that happen. He should receive all the credit because of everything he has done to Make America Great Again.
 

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This is where you're wrong brother. You're getting your perception about division from the media who is trying to divide us. Most families and normal people don't give two shits about Portland or Seattle. Hell, most aren't on Twitter and don't give a fuck what Trump says either.

You are correct to a degree. But I don't think you are in tune with the younger generation. They have been brainwashed. That's where the division is.

Most middle class Americans in the 40-60 age group? No division for the most part. The division has taken roots for a couple generations. The division is with the 20 somethings of the world. And the media. And the Left. Trying to manufacture it. As the old saying goes... Sometimes perception is reality.
 

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Agree. I'm not saying Trump is to blame for this. I'm saying he has some culpability.

I just can't agree with that. If blame is *mostly* on the media, then you must realize that Trump has to fight back.

If Trump didn't fight back from the media's attacks, he never wins the Presidency to begin with. He would have crumbled when that hit piece audio leaked from 2005 that they were saving for the right moment.

Ultimately, the American people were not going to support someone who just bent over and took it from the media and never stood up for himself.

The media has gotten worse and worse over the last 4 years, so the idea that Trump could just grin and accept that is silly. He'd be doomed if he had not hit back.
 

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When corporate America has taken over the media, social media, etc. With their agenda? That's division. Not division of the middle class. A full on assault of the middle class. That's division. A divisive force trying to take over America. That's what I'm talking about.
 

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I just can't agree with that. If blame is *mostly* on the media, then you must realize that Trump has to fight back.

If Trump didn't fight back from the media's attacks, he never wins the Presidency to begin with. He would have crumbled when that hit piece audio leaked from 2005 that they were saving for the right moment.

Ultimately, the American people were not going to support someone who just bent over and took it from the media and never stood up for himself.

The media has gotten worse and worse over the last 4 years, so the idea that Trump could just grin and accept that is silly. He'd be doomed if he had not hit back.

I hear everything you are saying. Isn't free speech great? Debating is great. This is America. Love it.

Trump has some blame. I don't think we will come to common ground with that. But he does. The name calling. The childish behavior. Etc.

I don't blame him for fighting back. There's another old saying... It's not what you say. It's how you say it. He could have done better.
 

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I hear everything you are saying. Isn't free speech great? Debating is great. This is America. Love it.

Trump has some blame. I don't think we will come to common ground with that. But he does. The name calling. The childish behavior. Etc.

I don't blame him for fighting back. There's another old saying... It's not what you say. It's how you say it. He could have done better.

Then again, I guess we agree on some level, because I mostly ignore Trump's words and judge him on his policies. I have almost no problem with his policies, because his policies are vetted by sharp people. His words, however, come out unfiltered, and sometimes do not line up with his policies and official positions.

So yeah, I guess I wish he didn't tweet and didn't say the stuff that played poorly in the media, but at the end of the day, the off the cuff marks won him the Presidency, and I'm hopeful that they will again.
 

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I mostly ignore Trump's words and judge him on his policies.

As do I. But I also realize not everyone is wired like you and I. Guys like us don't get butt hurt over a jab here and there.

But part of being a leader is knowing that everyone in the country isn't like you are. You have to deliver some soft jabs here and there. That's not weakness. You can still do the same job with some tact..
 

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