[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]Both. Clinton had it and only used it once before the SC ruled it was unconstitutional.
There have been plenty of Dem presidents before Obama that used common sense to govern.
It's a good way to keep the likes of Pelosi et al in check.
The other way would be one bill, one item. No lumping all sorts of shit together. Make
those slackers who write legislation do an honest days work for a change.
It would also stop all those freeloaders we call representatives from bringing home their
pet projects unless they were valid. Scrutinize what they really do and there wouldn't be
Congressmen who last for 40 years.
In my lifetime only 2 presidents sucked, Carter and Obama. Bush the elder gets an honorable
mention for his "Read my lips..." utterance and then not using any lube.
Other then that there haven't been any horrible Presidents, some just better than others.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]Never let a crisis go to waste. Pelosi had Trump by the short hairs and she knew it.
What was he going to do, veto the bill?
If we're going to blame anyone it should be McConnell. He's supposed to have Trump's 6.[/FONT]
In Reagan's first term, the national debt increased 73%. For reference, national debt increased 60% in Obama's first term using the same method. Historically high spending is about the exact opposite of conservative. Clinton has been the most conservative president in my lifetime (which includes Reagan).
Clinton had to deal with gov't gridlock, ditto for Obama...That tends to be why gov spends less money under Dem Presidents. Not because they themselves are fiscally conservative obviously, but because the Republicans are significantly more fiscally conservative under their leadership. This is largely because they know a little deficit spending gooses short-term economic growth.
Last President that legitimately put long-term ahead of short-term on a serious economic issue was Reagan when he was on board with Volcker raising interest rates to kill the stagflation of the 70's. Atleast last one I'd give credit for.
Last President that legitimately put long-term ahead of short-term on a serious economic issue was Reagan when he was on board with Volcker raising interest rates to kill the stagflation of the 70's. Atleast last one I'd give credit for.
I would not consider increasing spending and decreasing revenue as a conservative. Actually sounds like a bad idea.
We need to eventually have someone come in and cut spending significantly and cut taxes but not as much. Start paying down the debt. Will be hard to get someone elected with that plan because everyone would want something like this until they see that those cuts are going to effect them.
Too many sacred cows that people think cant be touched like: military and medicare are two examples.
[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]Easy for you to say. And by the way nobody gives a fuck any longer. Even I don't give a fuck.
It's a waste of time. You can only beat your head against a wall for so long before it starts
to hurt.
A trillion here, a trillion there, we're way past the point of no return.
I won't live long enough to see how this story ends. But one thing for sure the last chapter
hasn't been written yet.
I think the plan is, fuck you, we're not going to honor our debt. What are you (the rest of the
world) going to do about it? We're to big to fail. Without us the financial world crumbles.
Now be good little boys and play along or [FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]civilization as you know it ends [/FONT]. Your choice.[/FONT]
I wasn't beating my head, I was making a point about the reality of the situation because I'm not one to apologize or give passes to politicians when it isn't remotely warranted.
Fwiw, a ton of that debt is held by American institutions and/or citizens. That is the real reason the great deflation can't take place and the house of cards needs to keep going on.
Pensions, investors, retirees, endowments, etc etc....Kinda brilliant move by the establishment to tether everyone's future to their lunacy.
Fwiw, a ton of that debt is held by American institutions and/or citizens. That is the real reason the great deflation can't take place and the house of cards needs to keep going on.
Pensions, investors, retirees, endowments, etc etc....Kinda brilliant move by the establishment to tether everyone's future to their lunacy.
And even if you don't care about # on the debt, you should care about backstopping the debt of massive conglomerates. Because once you do that, you barely have capitalism anymore. A weak, feeble, neutered by gov't version.
There is a reason Boeing and the airlines are run by idiots, because they're allowed to be run that way. Mom and pop? The local hardware store owner? Not so much.
There is a reason Boeing and the airlines are run by idiots, because they're allowed to be run that way. Mom and pop? The local hardware store owner? Not so much.
