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Just flew that same model plane ....on air france i left paris and flew into detroit...............so sad to hear this.....great plane and crew...................weather always trumps the crew
 

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One of my best friends in a mechanic for Midwest Express. These planes basically fly themselves. It almost takes a act of God to crash these things--like birds flying into the engines or bad weather.
I read about cars crossing the highway medians and smashing into cars going the opposite direction. Now if you don't worry about that happening, you shouldn't worry about flying.
 

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Just flew that same model plane ....on air france i left paris and flew into detroit...............so sad to hear this.....great plane and crew...................weather always trumps the crew

wife is going to france on june 23....this makes her :eek:
 

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I don't fly as often as some people do, but when I do I always wonder at the back of my mind how many corners the airline cut and if there is more risk these days. It's pretty odd that lightning would have taken down an Airbus, usually these kind of planes are more than capable of taking lightning strikes and severe turbulence. But what if the mechanics were forced to take a pay cut and didn't do their job properly when this plane was last serviced? Or what if the airline knew there was a slight problem, but they figured it was minor so it wasn't worth the cost to fix it?

Another thing is that these planes have weather detecting devices, that's why the pilots are able to warn you in advance to buckle your seatbelt as they are expecting some turbulence. The pilots could have felt that the storm was extremely severe and could put the plane at risk so they could have turned around or gone around the storm cell, or at least navigated through parts that weren't as bad.



Excellent post! Took the words out of my mouth.
 

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I don't fly as often as some people do, but when I do I always wonder at the back of my mind how many corners the airline cut and if there is more risk these days. It's pretty odd that lightning would have taken down an Airbus, usually these kind of planes are more than capable of taking lightning strikes and severe turbulence. But what if the mechanics were forced to take a pay cut and didn't do their job properly when this plane was last serviced? Or what if the airline knew there was a slight problem, but they figured it was minor so it wasn't worth the cost to fix it?

Another thing is that these planes have weather detecting devices, that's why the pilots are able to warn you in advance to buckle your seatbelt as they are expecting some turbulence. The pilots could have felt that the storm was extremely severe and could put the plane at risk so they could have turned around or gone around the storm cell, or at least navigated through parts that weren't as bad.

I am a sales rep for an electronic component distributor and I can tell you first hand companies will do anything to save a penny on components. They will take a lower quality untested equal part as long as the spec. sheet says it is fit, form and function. Most of our millitary, aero, and automotive customers are still using leaded parts in their assemblies because they are too lazy to go leadfree. The entire world went leadfree back in 2004. So when these manufactures can't get brand new leadfree parts fresh off of the line they will buy the shit from chinese brokers that are either fake or very old (somewhat 1999 date codes).

These contract houses bid so low on cost for production and offer such short leadtimes that they become late or close to being past due on builds that they literally don't care where they get their components and materials. I don't care what brand you buy these days whether it is Sony, Samsung, TDK, Texas Instruments, Welch Allyn or any other brand of products all of this shit is made at the same contract manufactures in Asia and Mexico and they are made using questionable outdated materials.
 

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So they found the debris on the ocean? I guess they all died. They must have died upon impact on the water.
 

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I know it's a very rare occurence that a plane goes down but what if they made these commercial planes like some military ones?

At least passengers would have a fighting chance if a plane is going down fast and the top of the plane automatically comes off and the seats all get ejected with parachutes. Or how about if there's a huge parachute type thing on the plane itself and it at least slows down the plane when it's diving.
 
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" "Flying is actually one of the safer things we do probability-wise," Rothbaum said. And research is showing that flying has only gotten safer in recent years.


In fact, the lifetime odds of dying in an air travel accident are 1-in-20,000 compared with 1-in-100 for an auto accident and 1-in-5 from heart disease (based on 2001 statistics)."


"....In general, Rothbaum said, if a person's fear of flying interferes with life, keeping one from attending a wedding or accepting a job promotion, it would be wise to enter some form of cognitive-behavioral therapy."
 

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I think a lot of it has to do with how rare it actually is. When a plane goes down of course it's big news because it's a rare occurence.

If the media reported everytime someone got killed in a car crash we would never hear the end of it.
 

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Fwiw

Going back to 1967 I have flown in more rattle trap aircraft than most and actually survived a couple of real bad landings in helicopters so today I figure if my number is up then it's up. Flying does not scare me at all.

To each his own, I hate rollercoasters and won't ride one. Go figure.


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Going back to 1967 I have flown in more rattle trap aircraft than most and actually survived a couple of real bad landings in helicopters so today I figure if my number is up then it's up. Flying does not scare me at all.

To each his own, I hate rollercoasters and won't ride one. Go figure.


wil..

I've been on many military planes and helicopters myself. Flying doesn't bother me.
 

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The best time to rollercoaster is immediately after lunch.
But i'd fly 1000 planes before 1 coaster ride.

In an effort to make the ride more exciting than the previous 'hit' I have the feeling that they are getting a little close to the limits of what a normal person can withstand 'comfortably' (and who knows, perhaps also getting slightly bold on the structural design of it)

I rather do bungee (have done the tallest in the World) than a rollercoaster
 

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I know it's a very rare occurence that a plane goes down but what if they made these commercial planes like some military ones?
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something tells me this is not even remotely feasible

Think about it, how much do 300 parachutes cost? A normal airline (Say Continental which is pretty big ) has a fleet of 350 planes. Cost aside....this particular crash might have happened very fast.....hard to get 228 people jumping in parachutes that easily......IF they can because many will be very afraid and paralized by fear and well, you don't stand a very good chance on your own, on open sea

the question I have is, aren't these things suposed to have a beacon for localization purposes? I know that the thing is at the bottom of the sea but still..........
 

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