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Ellington and Henderson went to the same high school so it will be interesting to see how they both performance tonight.

I just don't see Duke having an edge here.

Hansbrough>Singler
Green=Henderson
Ellington>Scheyer
Lawson>Paulus
Thompson>Zoubek

Duke has better depth, but Ed Davis would start on Duke and Frasor is ok.

If only it were this easy every game...

No doubt UNC has more talent. They just plain and simple do not play defense.
 

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If only it were this easy every game...

No doubt UNC has more talent. They just plain and simple do not play defense.
What all of you guys are missing is the fact that Duke hasn't beaten a NC team since Hansborough has been on it.
 

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What all of you guys are missing is the fact that Duke hasn't beaten a NC team since Hansborough has been on it.

I think this is a very good UNC team but they are overrated. They do not defend well and they struggle to exploit their match-up advantages in games like this. I know that Tyler always plays well here and I don't expect that to change, but this is the best Duke team that he has faced. I just see people unloading on UNC tonight and to me this game is way too emotional for both teams to really know how either team will play. I like the over more than either side..
 

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Duke has no true pt guard,Duke will have foul trouble tonite imo with lawson and the up tempo game.Carolina win by 6 pt imo.ck
 

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its true ck but I don't think they will need one against this D. They bring it up as a team and exploit what the defense leaves them. tonite I think that will be plenty.
 

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Jimmy bol tonite , heading out for a little party now in cary and on to the game tonite.Carolina has won the last 3 at Duke and imo this group know what and how to win at duke.Should be a great game.GO CAROLINA.ck
 

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They seemed to play decent D at Cameron last year led by Danny Green's 7 blocks. Not having Ginyard out there will hurt the heels when trying to contain both Scheyer and Henderson though.
 

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Paulus will struggle trying to defend against Lawson but it's laughable the people who try to boost Ty Lawson... he has speed but he's not that great of a shooter or a great player IMO. Speed can only get you so far. I like Duke to win tonight.
 

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why is everyone hating on carolinas defense. they do play defense but it usually never show because of the style they play. the reason teams score alot against carolina is because they are taking way too many shot compared to other acc games. carolina scores so fast that the oppent end up taking more shots/more possessions. i have watched all the carolina games this yr and they take the ball down in like 5 seconds and score.
 

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why is everyone hating on carolinas defense. they do play defense but it usually never show because of the style they play. the reason teams score alot against carolina is because they are taking way too many shot compared to other acc games. carolina scores so fast that the oppent end up taking more shots/more possessions. i have watched all the carolina games this yr and they take the ball down in like 5 seconds and score.


<table class="data" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="dataheadc">North Carolina</td> <td class="datahl4b">NCAA
Last 5 Avg</td> <td colspan="2" class="dataheadc">Duke</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2b"> </td> <td class="datahl2b">Offense</td> <td class="datahl2b">Defense</td> <td class="datahl4b"> </td> <td class="datahl2b">Offense</td> <td class="datahl2b">Defense</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2"> Points
1st Half
2nd Half </td> <td class="datacell"> 90.2
45.4
44.8</td> <td class="datacell"> 75.0
35.0
40.0</td> <td class="datahl4"> 67.8
31.3
35.5</td> <td class="datacell"> 71.4
30.2
39.2</td> <td class="datacell"> 63.4
26.8
35.2</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2b">Avg Margin</td> <td colspan="2" class="datacellb"> 15.2</td> <td class="datahl4b"> </td> <td colspan="2" class="datacellb"> 8.0</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">Field Goal %
FG Made
FG Attempts</td> <td class="datahl2"> 48.2
31.6
65.6</td> <td class="datahl2"> 41.7
27.8
66.6</td> <td class="datahl4"> 43.5
23.9
54.9</td> <td class="datahl2"> 37.4
25.0
66.8</td> <td class="datahl2"> 40.8
23.8
58.4</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">3 Point %
3P Made
3PAttempts</td> <td class="datacell"> 42.0
8.4
20.0</td> <td class="datacell"> 41.5
7.8
18.8</td> <td class="datahl4"> 34.4
6.2
18.0</td> <td class="datacell"> 31.7
8.0
25.2</td> <td class="datacell"> 33.3
4.6
13.8</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">Free Throw %
FT Made
FT Attempts</td> <td class="datahl2"> 75.6
18.6
24.6</td> <td class="datahl2"> 71.6
11.6
16.2</td> <td class="datahl4"> 68.8
13.8
20.0</td> <td class="datahl2"> 68.4
13.4
19.6</td> <td class="datahl2"> 66.7
11.2
16.8</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">Rebounds
Offensive
Defensive</td> <td class="datacell"> 38.8
14.0
24.8</td> <td class="datacell"> 31.0
12.0
19.0</td> <td class="datahl4"> 31.0
9.6
21.4</td> <td class="datacell"> 39.2
15.4
23.8</td> <td class="datacell"> 33.6
9.4
24.2</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">Assist : TO
Assists
TO</td> <td class="datahl2"> 1.32
19.2
14.6</td> <td class="datahl2"> 1.07
15.4
14.4</td> <td class="datahl4"> 0.94
12.8
13.5</td> <td class="datahl2"> 1.14
13.2
11.6</td> <td class="datahl2"> 0.66
10.8
16.4</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2b">Steals</td> <td class="datacellb">6.8</td> <td class="datacellb">8.2</td> <td class="datahl4b">6.6</td> <td class="datacellb">8.2</td> <td class="datacellb">7.0</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2b">% 3PA to FGA</td> <td class="datacellb">30.5 %</td> <td class="datacellb">28.2 %</td> <td class="datahl4b">32.8 %</td> <td class="datacellb">37.7 %</td> <td class="datacellb">23.6 %</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2b">Blocks</td> <td class="datahl2b">4.8</td> <td class="datahl2b">3.8</td> <td class="datahl4b">3.3</td> <td class="datahl2b">4.8</td> <td class="datahl2b">5.4</td></tr></tbody></table>



These are the stats from the last 5 games.. What makes you think they play D? There percentages allowed are not very good, and it doesnt even tell the whole story. Alot of teams take bad shots to lower their percentage because they panic on the offensive end, or get frustrated once they get out of the game. This will not happen with Duke tonight.
 

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I think this is a very good UNC team but they are overrated. They do not defend well and they struggle to exploit their match-up advantages in games like this. I know that Tyler always plays well here and I don't expect that to change, but this is the best Duke team that he has faced. I just see people unloading on UNC tonight and to me this game is way too emotional for both teams to really know how either team will play. I like the over more than either side..

I wouldn't say this is the best Duke team he has faced. As a freshmen he won at Duke who was #1 against Sheldon Williams, Reddick, and Nelson. That UNC back then was no where near as good as this year. Their not a great defensive team, but I don't think Duke is that great either as against top competition this year they given up around 70 points.

Hansbrough and UNC has all the confidence in the world winning their 3 times in a row and if anything Duke has all the pressure to win at home.
 

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I wouldn't say this is the best Duke team he has faced. As a freshmen he won at Duke who was #1 against Sheldon Williams, Reddick, and Nelson. That UNC back then was no where near as good as this year. Their not a great defensive team, but I don't think Duke is that great either as against top competition this year they given up around 70 points.

Hansbrough and UNC has all the confidence in the world winning their 3 times in a row and if anything Duke has all the pressure to win at home.

Now that is a good point, that freshman year team was pretty weak for Carolina. I would rather have this Duke team than that one though, they had 2 good players surrounded by garbage. This Duke team has more balance and is a ton more athletic, which is what you need against this Tar Heel squad.

I don't care much for the confidence angle. Both teams will be up to 11 for this game so to me the confidence angle is not that big of a factor. You could argue that the seniors wanting to beat Carolina @ home will be just as big a factor for the home team. I work @ Duke and today I can honestly say that this year their is an entirely different energy on campus compared to the past few years leading into this game. Their is alot of confidence in the student body compared to the last few years. I really don't think the Devils play tight tonight at all.
 

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ah staying away from the puke unc game i could realyl see it going either way, hard to go against the biggest homecourt advantage in college basketball when they are getting points IMO. i do think that unc really does miss ginyard he was their best and maybe only good defender, as someone else had said duke will have to be on target from 3 which is very possible though because i see a lot of open looks.
 

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i mean thats all we can really say can't we. You may very well be right, I just have to see people unloading on this kind of game when its so easy to make a case for either side. This line is where it is for a reason..

papicker: spot on bud, bol to you tonite..
 

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time to lock it in:

** Duke Blue Devils +2.5

BOL to everyone tonight, should be some really good games in ACC country tonight. :toast:
 

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line is way fishy to me bud..

Understand that completely but the on court matchups/ timing of this game were just too good not to go hard at. I figured you would go big on the Heels since the line is less than 3...

i live in ny as u can see but was wearing carolina blue in my crib but i love duke 1st half here think they will establish the game early be up 5 at half and lose going away! Very scary situation though seeing that duke has struggled terribly as of late just like they were waiting and waiting to bring out the A game!:nono5: Be very careful carolina backers public is also pounding heavy:toast:
 

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wanted to provide an update on the NCS Degand and Fergeson situations:

Apparently both were held out of the VT game for Academic reasons. Sidney lowe has stated that both players may be held out a few games. He is very unpredicatable with his line-ups, but I can tell you that neither one will start. State is going to start Javi Gonzalez @ the point tonight, and if you have ever seen this kid play you know this is good news for WF backers. In his last 33 minutes before the VT game he had 11 turnovers. Jeff Teague must be licking his chops..
 

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