A DAY of CELEBRATION in PHOTOS

[ReggieB]

Please keep it civil or begone. wilheim

Tom Brady says he was close to his 94 year old grandmother who passed away in California last week, but yet Brady decided to stay in Florida to prepare for the Super Bowl.

What would have happened had his own mother or father died? Would their funeral have had to wait until after the postgame show was over?

I'm just trying to figure out the perspective here of this "All-American" guy.

 

[NEWPORT]

big boys

 

[NEWPORT]

Facts trump pride, ego and "pundits"

Cold, Hard Football Facts for the week of Feb. 3-9, 2005



Some “pundits” still have trouble coping with New England’s success. Primary among them is Michael Irvin of ESPN.

Irvin refuses to admit that the 2004 Patriots are better than any team of the Dallas dynasty of the 1990s. Of course, Irvin played for those Dallas teams. So it’s easy to understand the pride he feels playing for one of the greatest teams in NFL history.

But the Cold, Hard Football Facts know no such thing as pride. They defer only to the harsh, inalterable reality of raw numbers. They've have peered intently at NFL history and made these conclusions:

• The Patriots posted better records against tougher opponents than those Dallas teams of the 1990s. The Cold, Hard Football Facts issued this ruling earlier this week.

• No other team in NFL history ever beat 10 teams with winning records in a single season. The Patriots have done so each of the past two seasons and, over that period, they have a 20-1 record against winning teams (or, as we call them, quality opponents). Quite simply, the Patriots are the most battle-tested team in NFL history and the most succesful team in those battles. The Cold, Hard Football Facts issued this ruling earlier this year.

• New England’s ability to beat top opponents has continued in the postseason. We looked at every Super Bowl champion since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970. We discovered that no team faced stiffer postseason competition than the 2004 Patriots.

Unfortunately, pride clouds judgment. That’s clearly the case with Irvin. He insists his Dallas teams are better because they faced the likes of San Francisco and Green Bay in the postseason. But Irvin is wrong. The Cold, Hard Football Facts prove in no uncertain terms that his Dallas teams faced a series of postseason cakewalks compared with the challenges New England overcame on its way to three Super Bowls in four seasons.

Here’s a list of every Super Bowl winner since the AFL-NFL merger, with the cumulative records of their playoff opponents. Note that Bill Belichick has played a role in overcoming three of the four toughest postseason records in modern NFL history.

<TABLE width=410 border=1><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width=100>Year</TD><TD width=100>Team</TD><TD width=100>Oppts. record </TD><TD width=100>Oppts. win % </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>2004</TD><TD>New England </TD><TD>40-8</TD><TD>.833</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1990</TD><TD>N.Y. Giants </TD><TD>38-10</TD><TD>.792</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1976</TD><TD>Oakland</TD><TD>32-9-1</TD><TD>.780</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>2001</TD><TD>New England</TD><TD>37-11</TD><TD>.771</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1972</TD><TD>Miami</TD><TD>32-10</TD><TD>.762</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1973</TD><TD>Miami</TD><TD>31-10-1</TD><TD>.756</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>2000</TD><TD>Baltimore</TD><TD>48-16</TD><TD>.750</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1992</TD><TD>Dallas</TD><TD>36-12</TD><TD>.750</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1997</TD><TD>Denver</TD><TD>48-16</TD><TD>.750</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1998</TD><TD>Denver</TD><TD>36-12</TD><TD>.750</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1974</TD><TD>Pittsburgh</TD><TD>31-11</TD><TD>.738</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1975</TD><TD>Pittsburgh</TD><TD>31-11</TD><TD>.738</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1971</TD><TD>Dallas</TD><TD>30-11-1</TD><TD>.732</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1996</TD><TD>Green Bay </TD><TD>35-13</TD><TD>.729</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>2003</TD><TD>New England </TD><TD>35-13</TD><TD>.729</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1988</TD><TD>San Fran </TD><TD>35-13</TD><TD>.729</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1991</TD><TD>Washington</TD><TD>35-13</TD><TD>.729</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1977</TD><TD>Dallas</TD><TD>30-12</TD><TD>.714</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1999</TD><TD>St. Louis </TD><TD>34-14</TD><TD>.708</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1980</TD><TD>Oakland</TD><TD>45-19</TD><TD>.703</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1986</TD><TD>N.Y. Giants </TD><TD>33-14-1</TD><TD>.702</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1983</TD><TD>L.A. Raiders </TD><TD>33-15</TD><TD>.687</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1981</TD><TD>San Fran </TD><TD>33-15</TD><TD>.687</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1984</TD><TD>San Fran </TD><TD>33-15</TD><TD>.687</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>2002</TD><TD>Tampa Bay </TD><TD>33-15</TD><TD>.687</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1985</TD><TD>Chicago</TD><TD>32-16</TD><TD>.667</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1995</TD><TD>Dallas</TD><TD>32-16</TD><TD>.667</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1978</TD><TD>Pittsburgh</TD><TD>32-16</TD><TD>.667</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1989</TD><TD>San Fran </TD><TD>32-16</TD><TD>.667</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1994</TD><TD>San Fran </TD><TD>32-16</TD><TD>.667</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1987</TD><TD>Washington</TD><TD>29-15-1</TD><TD>.659</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1970</TD><TD>Baltimore</TD><TD>26-14</TD><TD>.650</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1993</TD><TD>Dallas</TD><TD>31-17</TD><TD>.646</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1979</TD><TD>Pittsburgh</TD><TD>30-18</TD><TD>.625</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>1982</TD><TD>Washington</TD><TD>22-14</TD><TD>.611</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

The bottom line is that the 2004 Patriots take a back seat to no team in football history when it comes to the quality of the opponents they faced in the regular season and, again, in the postseason.

Intersting the skins at the bottom on two of those years. The one years was the astrisk season

 

[TescoVee]

They all know where I'd like to be, and I know where I'd like to be. Things happen in life. It's a 94-year-old woman who lived a great life. I know what's going on back there, and right now, I'm just letting them deal with it." Brady said a funeral is planned for a week from Monday. His parents and other family members plan to fly to Jacksonville for the game Sunday. "My mom and dad are excited to come down here and . . . it will really be nice to have them down here," Brady said. "It's going to be nice to go out and play this game, and now I have an even better reason to play the game."


He didnt miss the funeral. And did you make this stink when Brett Favre's father passed and he went out and clobbered the Raiders on MNF in 2003?

 

[ReggieB]

Ohhhhhhhhh I see...Throw Grandma-ma on ice for a week or so until the game, celebrations, and parades are over and done with right?

Geewiz what a novel way to treat grandma!

 

[NEWPORT]

Ohhhhhhhhh I see...Throw Grandma-ma on ice for a week or so until the game, celebrations, and parades are over and done with right?

Geewiz what a novel way to treat grandma!

Dude, I think you are in the wrong forum. This is a sports and sports gambling forum.

What do you think about Brett Favre playing in that Monday night game, It was his best performance. He praised his father with a career night. Brady praised his Grandmother with a SUPER BOWL TROPHY.

Be careful Reggie how far you want to take this, MODS will ban you for good, I see your posts are in the 20's , maybe you want to stick around longer?

 

[ReggieB]

There is NO COMPARISON between Brett Favre and Tom Brady because Favre's father was killed in a car accident the DAY BEFORE the game and an autopy still had to be performed thus the reason that Favre played the DAY AFTER his father died.

In Brady's case his Grandma-ma passed on the Wednesday BEFORE the game on SUNDAY, yeah that's right Tommy...just toss the old broad on ice for a couple of weeks until you are good and ready to go pay your respects!

 

[ReggieB]

[font=ARIAL, HELVETICA]It's easy to fall for the American idol[/font]
[font=ARIAL, HELVETICA]Published in Fresno Bee - Feb 7, 2005[/font]

[font=ARIAL, HELVETICA]Brady stopped to hug a gray-haired woman, lifted a toddler into his arms and posed for a picture before gliding away. Reporters and photographers trailed him, as if skating on his cape. When America's quarterback stopped to assess New England's 24-21 victory over Philadelphia, its third Super Bowl victory in four years, a wave of followers elbowed for space and leaned forward to hear. Brady thanked his team's defense. He quieted the shouting reporters to hear a question from an 11-year-old playing journalist for a week. He aw-shucked his way through questions about his place in history.[/font]

[font=ARIAL, HELVETICA]Ohhhhhhhhh its "Tom Terrific" Ohhhhhhhhh my goodness....I'm slobbering all over myself!!



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[wilheim]

Reggieb and Deb 12 just happen to have identical IPs. Reggie is banned.



wil.

 

[NEWPORT]

Reggieb and Deb 12 just happen to have identical IPs. Reggie is banned.



wil.

Well there goes Deb 12's credibility. The phrases used just did not look like they would come from a ReggieB, almost artificial. Hey they were.

GOOD JOB WILHELM,

 

[PatPatriot]

Maybe Deb12 is one of those "He-Bitches" or Man-ginas or whatever you call them.

 

[Grogan]

That's pretty funny....I have to say, all of the "that's GREAT, Deb" and "I've been reading your posts, and they're really wonderful, Deb" have seemed bizarre to me, in that they seemed to be based on the fact it was a female name. I mean, who cares?? These people (me included) could be anybody!! There were even a couple of posts attacking me when I posted in Deb's thread, as if I was attacking "her" honor or something. Too much.......

 

[ElIguana]

Wilhelm, I'm not a techie--just because they have the same "IP" (what is that, anyway, "Internet Protocol"?) does that mean it is automatically the same person? Could it be they have the same internet service provider, go to college on the same campus, etc?

Grogan, I must confess that I thought a little differently about Deb12 and probably treated him/her a little differently because "she" is a lady. I don't know who ReggieB is or why s/he is banned, but I do know that Deb12 put thoughtful analysis into capping games and had some good angles, although his/her write-ups could be quite litanous.

I'll bet many of us would shoit in our drawers if we saw who all the ghosts were in here. Mods, am I right?