+ 170 for the repubs at BET JAMACIA right now jump on it!!

[KevinFrenchick]

i think that type is a big advantage to obama. more people who havent voted before or arn't interested in politics but vote on somebody who is more charismatic and appealing.

I mean I hope your right, I just could see a boat load of people that don't even follow any thing but will not give a black man thier vote.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Ward ...

sorry but you are wrong

Obama has an energized base and McCain does not

Obama connects with crowds and McCain does not

Obama may be "portrayed" as a Muslim ... McCain is
rightfully portrayed as Bush 43 II

Gasoline prices ... $1.64 when Clinton left office
Housing Industry is a nitemare and McCain's "economic
advisor" Phil Gramm had a role in that

Obama has 4x as many foot soldiers as McCain and did
a smart thing not accepting Public Financing ... McCain
has flip / flopped on that issue 3 times so the MSM
jackasses can fuck themselves on this issue

9 out of 10 Americans are better off with Obama's tax
plans

The Evangelical base is "less than thrilled" with McCain
and Obama is estimated to be able to tap into that sector
in the 30-40% range

Bob Barr is going to hurt McCain in GA and NC

Obama can blitz all 50 states as Dean's gameplan is rolling out
as we speak

Americans are scared ... Americans are hurting on a lot of fronts


Only way McCain wins is for Bush to create another "incident" like
he did with the PNAC playbook on 9-11


McCain is the one who has been given a free ride up to now .. that is
gong to end shortly as Obama's camp is going to take the war to
Rove this time around

 

[asufan550]

I'm waiting for your response, mercer...

 

[docmercer--banned]

ASU ...

maybe you should get familiar with Phil Gramm and then you might grasp why
Gramm being McCain's "economic advisor" is a joke at best

Gramm had his hands deep in legislation that got the subprime disaster "rolling
in the right direction .."

Go do your homework on this Snake and his lovely wife who was invovled in the Enron rape job:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html

 

[asufan550]

No, no, no. My statement--and your initial statement--had nothing to do with Gramm. It had to do with you blaming the housing market on repubs. You were supposed to respond w/o posting a link/copying and pasting. I figured you were out of your element here. Evidently there's not an original thought in your head.

 

[paftraft]

Great value. The Repubs are putting their spin on things again with this off shore oil drilling that should have been done when dickhead 1 was in office. Now its gonna make it look bad for the Dems cause their blocking this new energy bill. Gas prices are gonna dominate this election. Plus I said from the start no matter who got in for the Dems their was no way America would ever vote in a woman or a black guy. With all that said jump on that +170 now.

It's +187 at matchbook

 

[PatPatriot]

No, wait until after the Democrat convention, jump on the Repubs then.
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Exactley thats what i'm waiting for.

The crack about blacks, alot of people don't follow this shit and alot of people are that lame they will not vote for Obama just cause he is black mark my words.

true dat.
Its like a lot of these phoney polls that doc mengala post.
For one thing these pols ask "Americans" who they are voting for and not registered voters.
And the other thing is a lot of white voters say they are voting for Obama because they are afraid of being called racist wether they are or not.
So the margin of error is more like 10 -20% instead of 4%.
Since they started these polls they've ALWAYS favor the democrat.Really I think thats how they get their "margin of error" in the first place.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Good luck ....

No Diebold "magic" this go around for Rove and company ...

Barack with a BRILLIANT MOVE not accepting Public Financing (which
McCain himself has flip/flopped on 3 times allready) and here is
why:

McCain will be able to spend $84 million in the 2 mths between the GOP
Convention and Election Day .... OBAMA: roughly $500 million !!!

Folks vote for Personalities .... the Right wanted to drink with Bush and Clinton could connect with crowds .... the only crowd McCain can
connect with due to his "charisma" is Ladies nearing 100 yrs of age

Basically 4 mths to go .... McCains' O/U on Flip/Flops: 100

 

[PatPatriot]

Barack with a BRILLIANT MOVE not accepting Public Financing

Brilliant out and out decietful lie.just like he did to the jews.just like he did with the free trade thing.Just like he has about his faith.just like he has about who he is.
Who is he anyway?

 

[Dafinch]

I dont think McCain is a favorite. If I were lining this based on what I thought (not the action), I would put McCain at like +125.

That is all well and good with Obama. But I think the Obama fervor has started too early and will die down by August or September. People are already starting to become disenchanted with him like every other politician, and he will not continue to draw these massive crowds.

Political theory has proven that between elections, people will go outside of their roots and say that they have switched parties or go with a popular platform or individual, but every time the closer the election comes, the more people switch back to what they voted for last election and there is not nearly as much fluidity as some would have you believe.

Personally, I think a lot of America is still very racist and depending on the VP choices, I think you could see a lot of "shocking results". I don't think America is quite ready for a minority president, I think that Obama will lose two of the big three in OH, PA, and FL and that will do him in

McCain is NOT favored, and he's a lot more than a +125 underdog. The words spoken were refuting the claim of somebody that thought that McCain SHOULD be favored. And, Obama doesn't have to keep drawing huge crowds, he just has to be a strong enough contrast to McCain, who, as the following article suggests, isn't exactly a magnetic personality in a profession where perception is very important:


McCain bumbles the delivery
Jonathan Martin Fri Jun 6, 5:30 AM ET



NEW ORLEANS – As Democrats buzzed this week about their new de facto nominee, his historic candidacy and the unlikely political demise of Hillary Rodham Clinton, Republican circles were humming with another topic.


The topic: Is there a way John McCain can win the presidency without giving another speech?

That’s overstated, of course, but the concern about McCain’s wooden and stumbling address before a few hundred supporters here Tuesday night – the same evening as Barack Obama’s soaring acceptance address before thousands of screaming fans – has sent something of a shudder through the party and left GOP operatives shaking their heads in dismay.

Not coincidentally, one of the first things McCain did as the general election campaign began in earnest was to challenge Obama to an unprecedented 10 joint town hall meetings this summer. The Obama camp expressed some initial interest.

The proposal was hatched well before McCain’s Tuesday speech but reflects the campaign’s long-held awareness of the Arizona senator’s communications strengths and weaknesses. To sympathetic Republicans, the prospect of getting McCain out from behind a lectern and back into the town hall format he loves couldn’t come soon enough. To the McCain inner circle, the visual and stylistic contrast with Obama on Tuesday night was both plain to see and painful in the extreme.

“Not good,” a McCain adviser conceded about the dueling images, speaking on condition of anonymity like others interviewed because of the sensitivity involved in critiquing their nominee’s presentation. “It’s never going to be his strong suit, and it will always be Obama’s.”

Alex Castellanos, a longtime GOP ad-maker, was more succinct, mixing gallows humor with a brave face in talking on CNN Tuesday night: "This is not a speechmaking contest,” he said. “Thank God.”

McCain’s speech, his “Kermit the Frog” green backdrop, even his physical appearance were fodder for scores of worried e-mails and phone calls Tuesday and Wednesday between Republican donors, operatives and lobbyists.

One Republican strategist who has worked on past national campaigns said he received messages during the night from GOP loyalists in every administration from Ronald Reagan to George W. Bush.

“They were appalled at the environment the candidate was standing in and his performance,” said this strategist. “It’s a serious problem — the contrast is so clear that it’s demoralizing. And it deflated our balloon last night. When the guys on Fox are trash-talking, you know it’s bad.”

Other conservatives, such as those posting on the well-read National Review website, were equally unsparing in their assessment.

Even when taking questions from mostly friendly bloggers on a conference call Wednesday afternoon, McCain found himself on the defensive.

Can you loosen up when giving a speech, asked one?

Another private conference call for surrogates and allies brought a telling suggestion for senior adviser Steve Schmidt from Bud Day, one of McCain’s closest friends and a fellow Vietnam POW: McCain needs makeup when he goes on TV like he did Tuesday, Day said.

What most everybody inside and out of McCain’s campaign agreed upon was that the address was well-written.

“It just wasn’t delivered the best,” admitted a campaign aide. “He has to get sharper on delivery.”



No presidential candidate can stop giving prepared speeches altogether, of course. But McCain aides and advisers are hopeful that they’ll better set up the candidate for success in the next five months by holding more town halls and forums sans lectern and teleprompter. The town hall/debate proposal to Obama follows this same strategy.

In this environment, aides argue, McCain’s passion, wit and command of issues can be better illustrated, and his engagement with voters will portray him as more real than Obama, who can be inspirational but also lofty and esoteric.

In Nashville, Tenn., on Monday, for example, McCain was at ease holding court in the historic Ryman Auditorium, rattling off his usual array of one-liners, bantering with friendly and hostile questioners, all the while explaining his views and contrasting them with Obama.

“It’s no secret that John McCain’s sweet spot is in the town hall environment,” said a campaign aide. “He’s a natural campaigner up close with the public.”

Which is partly why the campaign will push heavily for Obama to accept the joint forums. Without a pre-canned and rehearsed speech, the young Democrat is not quite the threat – as demonstrated by his uneven debate performances during the long primary season, though he clearly got better as he went along.

“They need to add more debates and more open format events for the fall,” a McCain friend said of the campaign. “Maybe this is an opening gambit to negotiate toward that.”

Still, whether the proposal leads to summer sessions or just ensures a few additional forums after Labor Day, McCain’s inner circle recognizes that the preternatural Obama won’t exactly come off as a slouch in their preferred setting -- or any setting.

“It’s a little bit of a gamble, but it’s one worth taking,” said an adviser. “The best thing McCain can do is get on stage with Obama as often as possible. People will start to look past what they are hearing to what [the candidates] are saying.”

In a general election, McCain will never be able to replicate the New Hampshire town hall format in which he’s excelled in two presidential primaries.

But it’s no coincidence that the contours of the forums he’s proposing to Obama are similar to those informal and unpredictable sessions in Nashua, Peterborough and Exeter that propelled him to political stardom. There would be an audience of a couple hundred, a variety of viewpoints (in this case, to be picked by “an independent polling agency”), a time frame between an hour and hour and a half, “very limited moderation by an independent local moderator” (the next best thing to McCain calling on those with hands raised) and, of course, blind questions from the audience.

“He’s at his best when he’s doing the give and take,” observed Dante Scala, a University of New Hampshire political science professor who has seen McCain in his Granite State retail element. “The I-don’t-know-how-many-hundred [town halls] he’s done will do that for you.”

And, noted Scala, there is good news for McCain on the oratory front: “He’s only got to really give one more big speech during the campaign.”

Like I said, there's a reason why he finished 894th out of 899 in his graduating class...

 

[docmercer--banned]

Patriot ...

McCain has FLIP FLOPPED ON PUBLIC FINANCING 3 TIMES!!!

 

[paftraft]

Great value. The Repubs are putting their spin on things again with this off shore oil drilling that should have been done when dickhead 1 was in office. Now its gonna make it look bad for the Dems cause their blocking this new energy bill. Gas prices are gonna dominate this election. Plus I said from the start no matter who got in for the Dems their was no way America would ever vote in a woman or a black guy. With all that said jump on that +170 now.

Now +218 at Matchbook. I'll still wait awhile, it might go up to +250 before the balloon bursts. Fads like Obama always have a shelflife.

 

[docmercer--banned]

You tell em Raft ...

you obviously dont follow the local elections that have occurred in the
past few months