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He took a team that was starting 4 rookies, won 97 games with them, and won a road wild-card playoff game. Then he proceeded to manage them to an NLDS series win against the team with the best record in the majors.

This was in year 1 in Chicago.

You must be kidding me with this shit.

Took the words right out of my mouth...LMAO
 

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I want Greinke. Fuck Price.

I agree.

Its unfortunate that the Braves are real high on Price right now.
Im not that excited about it.

The Braves is going to be the team getting in a bidding war with the Cubs
 

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Why not? Blossoming young club, laid back manager, and Arrieta just proved you can win a Cy Young there.

he did nothing till last year so he really didn't have a lot to chose from heck isn't he the lowest paid starter and hold off on the Cy talk

201125Baltimore Orioles$419,0000.116
201226Baltimore Orioles$488,5001.116contracts
201327Chicago Cubs$516,5002.066contracts
201428Chicago Cubs$500,0002.145contracts
201529Chicago Cubs$3,630,0003.145contracts
2015 StatusSigned thru 2015, Earliest Arb Eligible: 2016, Earliest Free Agent: 2018

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he did nothing till last year so he really didn't have a lot to chose from heck isn't he the lowest paid starter and hold off on the Cy talk

201125Baltimore Orioles$419,0000.116
201226Baltimore Orioles$488,5001.116contracts
201327Chicago Cubs$516,5002.066contracts
201428Chicago Cubs$500,0002.145contracts
201529Chicago Cubs$3,630,0003.145contracts
2015 StatusSigned thru 2015, Earliest Arb Eligible: 2016, Earliest Free Agent: 2018

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I guess I don't understand your point. All I was saying is that Jake proved that a pitcher can contend for a CY pitching at Wrigley. I don't see what his salary has to do with it.
 

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he did nothing till last year so he really didn't have a lot to chose from heck isn't he the lowest paid starter and hold off on the Cy talk

201125Baltimore Orioles$419,0000.116
201226Baltimore Orioles$488,5001.116contracts
201327Chicago Cubs$516,5002.066contracts
201428Chicago Cubs$500,0002.145contracts
201529Chicago Cubs$3,630,0003.145contracts
2015 StatusSigned thru 2015, Earliest Arb Eligible: 2016, Earliest Free Agent: 2018

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That was not his point.
He was just saying Arrieta proved that its possible to be successful as a pitcher at Wrigley Field.
Maddux and Jenkins also did a pretty good job of that to.

To be honest JA is going to be a tough call when his contract is up.

He is going to command a bigger deal then is body of work.

I hate to say it but is price tag may be too high.

Yes he has been awesome the last 1.5 years but how many times have we seen pitchers have those 1 or 2 great years from out of nowhere then get the huge deal only to live with regret for the next 7 seasons.

Hes going to get Greinke and Price money but is entire body of work does not justify that.
 

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That was not his point.
He was just saying Arrieta proved that its possible to be successful as a pitcher at Wrigley Field.
Maddux and Jenkins also did a pretty good job of that to.

To be honest JA is going to be a tough call when his contract is up.

He is going to command a bigger deal then is body of work.

I hate to say it but is price tag may be too high.

Yes he has been awesome the last 1.5 years but how many times have we seen pitchers have those 1 or 2 great years from out of nowhere then get the huge deal only to live with regret for the next 7 seasons.

Hes going to get Greinke and Price money but is entire body of work does not justify that.

Yeah I agree to a large extent. Look for Jake to come back to Earth next year though anyway, which might align his next contract more closely with reality.
 

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Lester 20 games at home 7-9 away 12 games 4-3

Arrieta 15 home games 9-5 away 18 games 13-1

why would you want to pitch 15-20 games at Wrigley :think2: just seems like a bad business move to me unless it's your last contract
 

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Lester 20 games at home 7-9 away 12 games 4-3

Arrieta 15 home games 9-5 away 18 games 13-1

why would you want to pitch 15-20 games at Wrigley :think2: just seems like a bad business move to me unless it's your last contract

Record is a pretty meaningless stat.

First off, the wind is not blowing out everyday at Wrigley. Some days it is a pitcher's park, some days it is a hitter's park.

Secondly, let's say for the sake of argument that it's by and large a hitter's park. Both sides get that advantage, so it is going to have zero impact on W/L.

You could make the argument that if it IS in fact a hitter's park that it would inflate ERA's, but I can't see how it would have ANY impact on W/L.
 

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Lester 20 games at home 7-9 away 12 games 4-3

Arrieta 15 home games 9-5 away 18 games 13-1

why would you want to pitch 15-20 games at Wrigley :think2: just seems like a bad business move to me unless it's your last contract

The bad business move is signing somewhere that offers less money. These pitchers would pitch in IRAQ if they offered the most money.
Quit looking at this stuff like a fan.
 

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a few Twins were willing to stay in Minnesota for less money, but it is rare
 

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Not much reason to take less $ in MLB unless you just love the team/city or something. The deals are so long that you don't even have to worry if the team isn't a great fit for you.

In the NBA, the deals are only 4 years so you want to pick the right team because you might hit FA again in your prime.

in NFL, you want to pick the right team because getting cut for poor performance could really hurt your career. Then you have to prove yourself all over again.

MLB you pretty much just go with who is going to pay you 130 million instead of 110 million since the big deals are 7-8 years regardless. Tough to be thinking ahead 8-9 years.
 

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I'm still wondering why Joe Maddon is considered an above - average manager. Barely above .500 lifetime mark and hasn't done jack in the playoffs. Brings in circus animals to the club house and drives a Chevy van, but he never got the Cubs from being a beer - league softball team. They'll go out and buy some pitching, but now the pressure will be turned up several notches to win. I'm not convinced he can do this.


It's a pretty cool van though
 

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