1/2 unit on Arizona to win NFC +2400.. Good investment here..

[rock28]

I screwed up in my original math and you are right... my bad :lol:
If the Giants win tomorrow he is screwed hno:

He lost 328 today.. if the giants win they will be atleast -400 and he will have to bet 1300 just to win 325. he only wins 720 if arizona wins. Better hope the eagles pull it out tomorrow to have any hope of making this money back.

my apologies...

 

[rock28]

"Next week if Arizona wins Gyno wins 720He lost 328 today so thats a 392 dollar profit". yes ..if ariz wins he profits

Now he can still hedge the bet next week and guarantee money. Say the giants are -400 next week he can bet the 300 on the giants to win 75 (a 45 dollar profit) or if zona wins he will have a net profit of 92.

that would be great if u knew basic math but u don't. after losing today he's down 328. and now u have to lay 400 to win 100..are u following retard

only way he gets out of this mess is if ariz beats the nyg


If the eagles beat the giants tomorrow he will make even more money as that moneyline will probably be close to even.

Think about what you guys are saying before you call the guy an idiot.

i'm trough w/ calling him one. especailly since ur the new village idiot

was posting at the same time...

thanks for posting, but thats how you could of explained it in the beginning instead of being a prick. This site is about helping peopld no bashing them and hoping they lose money.

 

[Mindware]

wow this is possibly the most retarded thread i've read and the most retarded wager i've seen. For the original poster to include the words "good investment" in the thread's title is simply hysterical.

Bottom line is he's got $30 pending to win $720 if AZ goes on and wins the NFC, but he's now down $348. If i were him i'd just let the original bet ride

 

[yearofthesnake]

"thanks for posting, but thats how you could of explained it in the beginning instead of being a prick. This site is about helping peopld no bashing them and hoping they lose money"

dude,....don't even turn this around on me as it was already explained. if u had bothered to read and add correctly this never would've happened.

in gynos defense...if philly does somehow win tomorrow he will likely be able to maybe get even. but he never would've seen this possibility coming or thought it even had the chance

but like i said..the kiss of death as already been applied..

 

[jdigae01]

i think i just got dumber reading this thread. lol

 

[omahamoneymaker]

He would need the cards to be basically even money to be able to hedge out of this bet in the next game. That isn't going to happen as they will be an underdog against the Eagles or an even bigger one against the Giants.

 

[Gator627]

wow this is possibly the most retarded thread i've read and the most retarded wager i've seen. For the original poster to include the words "good investment" in the thread's title is simply hysterical.

Bottom line is he's got $30 pending to win $720 if AZ goes on and wins the NFC, but he's now down $348. If i were him i'd just let the original bet ride

No way! Throw a grand on it to win $50. :lol:

 

[Ramonskee]

He would need the cards to be basically even money to be able to hedge out of this bet in the next game. That isn't going to happen as they will be an underdog against the Eagles or an even bigger one against the Giants.

to gyno's credit, if the eagles win, they'll have to travel to arizona. arizona will be +3 at BEST at home. Now if the Giants win.... they'll be at LEAST +7.

 

[CalvinTy]

I am joining this thread a bit late but I have to try to understand Gyno's *original* intent:

At first, thinking that ARI can get by ATL but then losing on the East Coast (against either CAR or NYG as originally possible)...

betting $30 to win $720 at +2400 for ARI to go to Super Bowl, essentially (in Gyno's eyes, he did think that was *NOT* going to happen)

He figured right about ARI beating ATL as the first step. He then bet on CAR ML because he saw that even *if* somehow, by a miracle, CAR does lose, he still can get a "hedged" profit at the NFC Championship week by betting on the other team, whoever it would be.

However, I understand that Gyno's mistake was not factoring into TWO consecutive hedging requirements on a favorite ML (CAR -410 being the first but not the only favorite) for him to realize the +2400 original bet to be cashed. *IF* NYG defeats PHI on Sunday, then we are talking about NYG being -410 or more with ARI visiting NYG.

+2400; risk $30 to win $720 for ARI to win NFC Championship
-410; risked $328 to win $80 on CAR (Gyno's "ideal" plan was to win $50 and tie this up right away)
-410; to risk $328 to win $80 on NYG (NYG won't be that low of -410, though)

If ARI still beats NYG at Meadowlands, then the $720 profit has been eaten by the -$328 losses twice by CAR and NYG failing to win. That'd be a mere $64 profit on ARI; but if NYG wins, Gyno would get a $50 profit over his ORIGINAL $30 bet on ARI to win NFC. This is what Gyno was trying to do but then he forgot about the -$328 loss by CAR. If NYG wins (on $328 to win $80), Gyno would be down -$-278 instead.

Even if it's PHI visiting ARI for the NFC Championship (best case scenario for Gyno), PHI/ARI would prolly be at pick' em, PHI +100/ARI -105 something like that.

+2400; risk $30 to win $720 for ARI to win NFC Championship
-410; risked $328 to win $80 on CAR; lost
+100 on PHI visiting ARI (fictional numbers for simplicity's sake)... at least risking $358 at +100 would be required.... because if PHI beats ARI, Gyno would want to at least break even (-$30 original bet; -$328 on CAR). But if ARI *do* beat PHI, then we go back to whether this was all worth it (winning the $720 but losing -$328 then something like -$358 on PHI) for a profit of something like $34 on ARI.

I understand both camps' views in this one, really.

* CalvinTy

 

[llcccc]

Arizona Cardinals to win NFC +2400 looking good but already fuck up on other bet

 

[billbeater]

way to go Gyno, nice call!

 

[daboyzinblue]

All this jazz for a 30 buck wager WTF? Yeah 30 to win 720 is sweet but why someone would hedge a 30 buck bet baffles me. If you need the little extra coin that bad take up a paper route dude. This is ridiculous. hno:

 

[ex-highschoollegend]

All this jazz for a 30 buck wager WTF? Yeah 30 to win 720 is sweet but why someone would hedge a 30 buck bet baffles me. If you need the little extra coin that bad take up a paper route dude. This is ridiculous. hno:

just read through 2 pages of this thread and this is the only thing that made sense to me

 

[LIONSJUNKIE]

I screwed up in my original math and you are right... my bad :lol:
If the Giants win tomorrow he is screwed hno:

He lost 328 today.. if the giants win they will be atleast -400 and he will have to bet 1300 just to win 325. he only wins 720 if arizona wins. Better hope the eagles pull it out tomorrow to have any hope of making this money back.

my apologies...

hno:















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[DennizdaMenace]

Actually..because of this thread..Kurt Warner and the AZ offense..I took AZ to win NFC and S Bowl too..I didnt hedge shit yesterday..In this season of parity nothing is guaranteed...except that my buddy Gyno is watching this thread and not replying

 

[downtown2222]

hahahahahhaha

Whos stupid now?

But wait gyno, were all stupid over "here", right? Thats what making this site go down. Your a fucking clown, and you fit in great here. congrats!

 

[JAKEPEAVY21]

this is hilarious

 

[King83]

recap?

 

[CalvinTy]

recap?

With a matchup of PHI at ATL, but PHI is still a -3 favorite and about -170 ML favorite... right now, Gyno has 3 choices, all have pros and cons:

1.) Let it ride

if ARI wins, Gyno profits $392 (cashing $720 and losing $328 on CAR hedge)
if PHI wins, Gyno loses -$358 (losing $328 on CAR hedge; losing $30 original ARI bet)

2.) Break even on CAR loss (-170 on PHI; risk $557.60 to win $328)

if ARI wins, Gyno loses -$165.60 (cashing $720 but losing $328 on CAR & $557.60 on PHI)
if PHI wins, Gyno loses -$30 (cashing $328 on PHI win; losing $328 on CAR loss; losing $30 original ARI bet)

3.) Accept a small loss either way (-170 on PHI; risk $476 to win $280)

if ARI wins, Gyno loses -$84 (cashing $720 but losing $328 on CAR & $476 on PHI)
if PHI wins, Gyno loses -$78 (cashing $280 on PHI win; losing $328 on CAR loss; losing $30 original ARI bet

Personally, I think Gyno should chose option #3 since I don't think he wants to stomach more than $300 loss hoping that ARI beats PHI at home.

* CalvinTy

 

[aderol]

so i know i could figure this out on my own, but my book is really slow and pretty crappy with their lines/moneylines.

i bet that the cardinals would win the superbowl +3500, thats $25 to win $875.

my book doesn't have their moneyline out yet... but how should i hedge? i think that philly wins this one outright, so should i put a lot on them this leg and hope the cards don't win? or should i cover about 150, hope the cards win, and then hedge big on the superbowl? any insight helps.

fwiw, i think philly wins due to the fact that the cards are +7 in turnover margin in their past 2 games.. this won't continue, and any decent team can win games with a +7 turnover margin. philly on the other hand is +1 in turnovers, and is red-hot, riding their winning streak into the playoffs. momentum is huge in the playoffs of any sport, so i see them advancing.