⚾Saturday: MLB/Celtics-Heat *IN-GAME ACTION THREAD*?

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The 3-0 defense is now a little bit of the fallacy with probabilities coming into play....

It's 3-2. It's the same as saying a quarter will come up heads 4 times in a row 6.25 percent of the time. But that probability does not still hold true when heads has already come up 2 times.

You see this a lot with roulette. O the ball has come up red 6 times in a row it has to come up black soon. It's not the perfect analogy to this series----but the 3-0 defense of why they are more likely to win games 6 or 7 then if they first 3 games had played differently doesn't really hold water.
Yeah I mean the probability of these games isn’t dependent on the previous 2 games

Though I always wonder about the human element in sports creating some sort of effect that we simply can’t account for
 

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Also of note---Jimmy Butler is 33 years old and has had to do much of the heavy lifting to get them to this point. Miami(like against Milwaukee) shot the lights out from 3 to win first 3, hitting i believe over 45 percent, from a team that was 27th(over the long haul of the regular season) at 3 point percentage.

This could just be them hitting a wall and reverting to the norm. Some will tell you regular season doesn't matter---it does, unless a team is bringing back star players they didn't have over the regular season. Jimmy is only around 6'6-6'7---he isn't an unstoppable force like a KD, Giannis, Lebron. You can do stuff to shut him down. He might also just be wearing down. Hell the Heat looked to be wearing down against the Knicks later in that series before they got a 2nd win to take out Boston first 3.

Game 6 Boston is still the more desperate team. Meaning if Miami gets down 15 plus late they aren't going to empty the tank.(small advantage for Cs)

I haven't taken Cs to win series but have them tonight.
 

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Also of note---Jimmy Butler is 33 years old and has had to do much of the heavy lifting to get them to this point. Miami(like against Milwaukee) shot the lights out from 3 to win first 3, hitting i believe over 45 percent, from a team that was 27th(over the long haul of the regular season) at 3 point percentage.

This could just be them hitting a wall and reverting to the norm. Some will tell you regular season doesn't matter---it does, unless a team is bringing back star players they didn't have over the regular season. Jimmy is only around 6'6-6'7---he isn't an unstoppable force like a KD, Giannis, Lebron. You can do stuff to shut him down. He might also just be wearing down. Hell the Heat looked to be wearing down against the Knicks later in that series before they got a 2nd win to take out Boston first 3.

Game 6 Boston is still the more desperate team. Meaning if Miami gets down 15 plus late they aren't going to empty the tank.(small advantage for Cs)

I haven't taken Cs to win series but have them tonight.
I was shocked to see Miami that low in 3 point percentage

They were around top of the league last season .

Guys like Duncan getting more run and seeming to be shooting back to normal makes them at least a decent 3 pt shooting team

Duncan was just bad this season for some reason
 

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I was shocked to see Miami that low in 3 point percentage

They were around top of the league last season .

Guys like Duncan getting more run and seeming to be shooting back to normal makes them at least a decent 3 pt shooting team

Duncan was just bad this season for some reason
Duncan is a hard dude to play in the play-offs. Just gets targeted defensively.

Why Milwaukee chose to pay Portis and Miami chose to pay Duncan and let a play-off player like PJ Tucker leave is beyond my knowledge.
 

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Duncan is a hard dude to play in the play-offs. Just gets targeted defensively.

Why Milwaukee chose to pay Portis and Miami chose to pay Duncan and let a play-off player like PJ Tucker leave is beyond my knowledge.
Problem with PJ is he's just such a liability on offense.

Minor trade off, but I agree I'd rather have him than not
 

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If you go game by game. Throw out the knicks series to a sense since those teams are about 50/50.

Miami won game 1 against Milwaukee, minus Giannis for most..(in fairness might not have mattered)Miami got smoked game 2 and then played excellent to smoke Milwaukee game 3. Games 4 and 5 they were down 14 and 16 respectively late in the 2nd half---got hot again from 3 and won both.

Boston in games 1 and 2(i didn't watch in Spain and started at like 3am) i believe Boston controlled most of the game and gave them away late. Game 3 Miami smoked them. In game 4 had a good 1st half and decent very early start to third to build 61-52 lead---this is where Miami blew its chance. Boston has smoked them ever since.

Miami is playing at home. It's always good to have a clinching game at home. Outside of this i don't see this team having an advantage outside of going KD, Steph, Thompson from the 3 point line. That shot has left them. It never came back in the Knicks series but they had just enough left to slip by them scoring in the high 90s. I just don't see that being enough against a Boston team that has thrived at backs against wall against teams they should beat...
 

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Problem with PJ is he's just such a liability on offense.

Minor trade off, but I agree I'd rather have him than not
O of course. He isn't perfect. That's why he bounces around the league to an extent. But he will ALWAYS be in a play-off rotation unlike those 2.
 

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My Celtics buddy already bought Game 7 tickets in Boston, and a flight there as well

And he is usually painfully pessimistic. Never thinks the Celtics will win until it's officially over
 

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I believe this line should be boston -6.5.

Miami is going to have to "heat" up again at the 3 point line or this is going to be another comfortable Boston win.

If Boston was going to fold it would have been being down 0-3 and 52-61 in the 3rd quarter would have been the time.(imo)
Looks like you are from Boston =) Boston -6.5 is the good line for regular season game, when, for example, Miami has 2 wins and Boston with 2 looses before it. But now is different story: it is playoff and Bostons has 2 wins and Miami has 2 looses. Boston is a better team but situation is better for Miami today. I think it will be close game, may be with overtime.
 

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My Celtics buddy already bought Game 7 tickets in Boston, and a flight there as well

And he is usually painfully pessimistic. Never thinks the Celtics will win until it's officially over
Heck why not

If it happens, he can sell for a huge profit if he wanted
 

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Crudebar you bring up a good point No team back from 3-0 in 150 X.And the team down 3-0 being favored in every game going forward.I would bet that it hasn t happened too like you said.I did see a stat on the Heat where they were the biggest NBA series dog to ever go up 3-0 in a series..So you could say typically teams up 3-0 were favored for the series or certainly not as big a dog as the Heat were.At Home I think the Heat come with a lot of intensity and do Win to close the Celts out tonight,certainly not the more talented team, but I do think they are more mature,better coached, and mentally tougher.
 

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Mets were down 6-0
Now 6-6
 

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