I have to side with redeye here, we should only be able to use games that are posted in the thread. If a game is not listed for whatever reason you should not be allowed to use it in the contest. That's only fair for everyone. There are enough other games listed that if one or two are missing it should not matter. I've played in many contests here and other places and its really the first time I've ever seen it come up. Or if a game is OTB then added later hache can always add it to the thread later. I would suggest adding this as a rule to this contest so it doesn't come up again. In this case it does matter because Murph is in second.
guys for the record. hache did tell me i can post the denver game.. I played the philly game on my own after no response back from the pm i sent for the 2nd bet. but the first one he clearly told me that if I posted a thread with the game, it would count. I decided to play the game very late in the day, that is why it was posted late BUT never EVER have any of my games been past post.. im not a scammer and never will be confused with one.. so whatever redeye has implied he is absolutely wrong. My integrity far outclasses what he claims it to be and I would never rig or cheat in a contest for dollars or whatever no matter how much it was for.
With this being said I have told hache to not count the picks for the 2 weeks. it seems the most fair...I am fine with that...but Redeye doesnt really have his scrutiny eye on too tight cuz meanwhile in week 12 u can look it up J_price played 7 picks in one week(3 spreads and then later 4 moneylines..including a double bet on the denver win this week).. no one caught that and certainly we know REDEYE didnt.. LOL..did u redeye?.. why do u have a magnifying glass on me when i never did anything wrong?.. I see it from ur point of view that u cant read the pms between hache(who was very busy) and myself, and that is why I have asked him to remove the two picks. but keep in mind it is also unfair to me cuz i may have played a different pick each of these weeks but couldnt because i was committed to the ones i posted under the circumstances I knew of.
gl to everyone in the rest of the contest... patswin congrats on taking the lead :toast:
-murph
With this being said I have told hache to not count the picks for the 2 weeks. it seems the most fair...I am fine with that...but Redeye doesnt really have his scrutiny eye on too tight cuz meanwhile in week 12 u can look it up J_price played 7 picks in one week(3 spreads and then later 4 moneylines..including a double bet on the denver win this week).. no one caught that and certainly we know REDEYE didnt.. LOL..did u redeye?.. why do u have a magnifying glass on me when i never did anything wrong?.. I see it from ur point of view that u cant read the pms between hache(who was very busy) and myself, and that is why I have asked him to remove the two picks. but keep in mind it is also unfair to me cuz i may have played a different pick each of these weeks but couldnt because i was committed to the ones i posted under the circumstances I knew of.
gl to everyone in the rest of the contest... patswin congrats on taking the lead :toast:
-murph
thanks murph, i did not think you were trying to cheat or take advantage of anything, i think hache probably should have just said no but he did not so you played it. simple change to the rules would prevent it from coming up again. these contests are fun to play and give us a reason to deposit at places and i want them to continue so no sense in blowing it out of proportion.
GL
GL
First of all I'd like to point out to everyone in this contest that the situation with the picks in question is simply a case of miscommunication.
I was away from home and as Murphy explained he pm'ed me asking if he could post that game to play since it wasn't already posted.
Where the confusion begins is I thought murph meant he was going to post the lines so anyone who wanted to play the game as well also could.
A simple misunderstanding which is now to be corrected after murph contacted me and explained.
Now, as for Red Eye, who has been the only poster to give me a hard time about everything imaginable in not only this contest but others as well, his claim that Murphy's Philly pick was not counted as a loss is completely false.
I also don't appreciate the insinuation that I'm cheating for posters who might send me their selections to post.
There are other contests in which posters are allowed to send me their picks to post to prevent any issues.
The same will apply to this contest the last couple of weeks to prevent any controversy, such as copying of plays to ensure victory. The guys who have plated in this contest for years understand this.
Until now, we've done it this way without any problems or complaints, so we will continue this way.
Any private messages sent to me can always be forwarded to someone else or checked by another mod to provide validity.
Cheating is not an option and to be accused if it is quite insulting.
Best if luck rest of the way guys :toast:
I was away from home and as Murphy explained he pm'ed me asking if he could post that game to play since it wasn't already posted.
Where the confusion begins is I thought murph meant he was going to post the lines so anyone who wanted to play the game as well also could.
A simple misunderstanding which is now to be corrected after murph contacted me and explained.
Now, as for Red Eye, who has been the only poster to give me a hard time about everything imaginable in not only this contest but others as well, his claim that Murphy's Philly pick was not counted as a loss is completely false.
I also don't appreciate the insinuation that I'm cheating for posters who might send me their selections to post.
There are other contests in which posters are allowed to send me their picks to post to prevent any issues.
The same will apply to this contest the last couple of weeks to prevent any controversy, such as copying of plays to ensure victory. The guys who have plated in this contest for years understand this.
Until now, we've done it this way without any problems or complaints, so we will continue this way.
Any private messages sent to me can always be forwarded to someone else or checked by another mod to provide validity.
Cheating is not an option and to be accused if it is quite insulting.
Best if luck rest of the way guys :toast:
No one implied you were cheating, or posted that you posted the pick after the game started, now your putting words into my mouth so don't go there....What I am implying is you don't know how to follow the rules and your boy Hache doesn't know how to grade or follow the rules either... Your saying you PM'd Hache back and forth so you could get this Broncos pick into the contest... if Hache has the time to PM you or anyone else for that matter that you can use that pick, why can't he take the time to post that SAME INFO into the contest thread for the rest of us so we can potentially use that pick instead of just for your benefit .. This contest isn't for just your conveinence.... BTW, Hache only has to remove your win, for whatever reason he didn't count your Philly ML pick as a loss.. I wonder if he will count your 2 legit losses that you had...
I'm not a mod here,, and not the official person grading this thing, so its not my responsibility to check everyones picks....it was real easy to see that you fucked up, you started a whole new thread for your Broncos pick... This is Hache's responsibility to make sure nobody picks more then 4 games.. Price's picks should get scrapped too, we already saw that info posted on the front page that you can't do this under any circumstances..
I have a bigger problem with Hache letting shit like this go and PMing back and forth games that the rest of can't use because they have not been posted ... We need an explanation for all of this.. He also needs to go back into the standings and recount all of this shit and follow the rules of the contest....I have seen numerous posts including one from myself how Hache butchered the grading, so I'm sure if he goes back in he'll find more mistakes like the ones you pointed out.. There were a couple of weeks I would like to have picked more then 4 games too, but I know the rules.. I would loved to have had the option of picking the Denver game like you did.. if Hache can't get this corrected and give us a reasonable explanation, bring JOH in here, I know he follows the rules like a hawk, and I am good with that....
Hache, you might easily be the greatest guy on this forum, who knows, I'm going to assume for arguing purposes that you are... But you really need to relook at this contest and how its been run, You came back in here and graded the last two weeks but missed obvious errors again... Nobody said you cheated for anyone, but look around you here on whats going on with all of these mistakes... Sorry this is being hard on you, I'm not a ass kisser here like most on this forum, just like the rules to be followed if I am going to be in the contest.
The rules have been followed.
I've already explained the mix up with murph.
Has there been a small handful of mistakes?
Yes there has.
There always will be regardless of who's doing the grading due to the overall size and complexity of this contest and even others.
As far as posters sending me their selections, you may as well be prepared for that soon since everyone in contention may choose to do so the last 2 weeks.
I hope that nobody will be sending you selections that aren't available to everyone else ! You seem to be missing a very valid point that Redeye is making. Nobody should be making picks that aren't posted by you. Show me where that is allowed in any rules OK ? I don't think there is such an allowance and there certainly shouldn't be. Peace !
Hache, I can sorta buy the confusion argument, but when you move past all of that, your now on to grading this mess and you now see a completely seperate thread with just 1 post that indicates Murphy is playing Denver. Doesn't a red flag come into play here for you that there has been a game within this contest that you are NOW grading in a SEPERATE thread thats NOT in the picks thread but your grading it as a W ? How do you not see this ? or you see someone with 7 picks in 1 week and grade all of them ? Is this all suppose just be excused as confusion too ? What am I suppose to do when I see all of this ? Just except it as collateral damage for the contest ? Or post it so I can be the villian in this contest.
