Whats up with people who bet the same amount on every game

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Hard enough for most to win the way it. Handicapping yourself into making the same amount for each wager makes it harder yet.
 

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Instead of being up huge, i'm just up a decent amount...why??
Because hitting over 60% in bases, but i must be about 25% when I increase the wager, anything can happen in any game and I have gotten torched more often than not when I put big $$$ on a game as opposed to my normal bet.
 

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Most people here will achieve similar results whether they use flatbetting or weighted betting. Doesn't matter if they are successful. Identifying +ev is hard enough for most let alone accurately judging just how +ev it is.
 

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i can't bet the same amount every game. only on the games I want action on. for example i usually make 5 bets a day and would put 1 unit each on three games and 3 units on the other two. If there is a single game that I really like I would wager more.
Same goes for when playing blackjack, can never stick to one bet size. i find it gets boring winning or losing 1 unit at a time. But I guess it's because I don't go to the casino as often and want more action when im there.
 

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HarryCaray said:
Don't really see how that's relevant. Whatever, to each his own. I just find myself "liking" certain plays more than others. That doesn't mean I have to throw out the ones I like less if I still think there's value...


Sure it's relevant.


Bottom line is whether or not you can handicap the right side. Say your amounts are $500 to $200. If the bets you're making at $200 comes out to a positive, you were wrong not to bet them for $500. If your $200 bets end up a negative result, you were wrong for playing them at all. That's why you bet them all the same amount.
 

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Fat Tony said:
Sure it's relevant.


Bottom line is whether or not you can handicap the right side. Say your amounts are $500 to $200. If the bets you're making at $200 comes out to a positive, you were wrong not to bet them for $500. If your $200 bets end up a negative result, you were wrong for playing them at all. That's why you bet them all the same amount.

You lost me there. I mean I understand what you're saying, but don't see how it leads you to your last sentence... Let's just agree to disagree. It all comes down to what you're comfortable with.
 

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HarryCaray said:
You lost me there. I mean I understand what you're saying, but don't see how it leads you to your last sentence... Let's just agree to disagree. It all comes down to what you're comfortable with.


My last sentence means, You like the game or you don't. :lolBIG:


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It's hard to bet the same amount. Say you bet $500, but can get a great line on something, but only for $200, do you pass ?

Off market lines can be hit harder than normal. Some shoot at 5-6 team parlays, should that be for a full unit ?
 

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Here's an example. Say I have two sets of plays I make - I expect one set to hit 54% and one set to hit 58%. Even though they should both come out positive, the plays in the first set have a bigger chance of losing money due to variance. That's why I would only put 1 unit on the 54% plays and more on the 58%.
 

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goodcall said:
Here's an example. Say I have two sets of plays I make - I expect one set to hit 54% and one set to hit 58%. Even though they should both come out positive, the plays in the first set have a bigger chance of losing money due to variance. That's why I would only put 1 unit on the 54% plays and more on the 58%.


So don't play the other set. :103631605
 

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definately if it works vary your bets away. But for the novice or beginning bettor I strongly caution you to stay strict to flat betting. it will teach you disicpline. I flat bet and I the rationale I use behind it is that unless I know a team is going to win 100% every game has a liklihood to win and a liklihood to lose. What exactly those chances are I am unaware. I believe especially in spread betting that all the games I play have equal chance of winning and losing. I am fully aware that I will not win all the games or even close to that thus why play one game for more then another. My last advice to the beginning bettor is that lines are shaded I have seen it time and time again....." This team is going to roll, I am betting 3x my normal ammount." along with 70% of the people, and it loses. Long term winners I believe know that this is a grind, but if you got something that works well for you then use it.

also to answer the post on the +180 dog vs the +150 dog. How would you know what % chance they have of winning before the game starts? It may be a hypothetical situation but honestly none of us have a clue as to how a team will preform on a given day. But like I said above if you have something that works well from you then use it.
 

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goodcall said:
Dont play the set that comes out at 54%? Why? It should make you money.


So play them the same amount if you're going to win!!!!!!!

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Fat Tony said:
So play them the same amount if you're going to win!!!!!!!

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Obviously, if I knew the outcome of that set would actually be 54% after I bet it, I would bet the max on every game in it. The point is, the set that should come out to 54% won't every time. Same with the 58% set. But there is a smaller chance the 58% set will be in the negative at season's end than the 54% set.
 

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goodcall said:
Obviously, if I knew the outcome of that set would actually be 54% after I bet it, I would bet the max on every game in it. The point is, the set that should come out to 54% won't every time. Same with the 58% set. But there is a smaller chance the 58% set will be in the negative than the 54% set.


Then skim the fat and go with the better games that gives you a better shot overall. If you're that unsure of the one set of games, you're better off not playing it.

(You're giving me winning percentages and then saying you're not sure they're going to win at that clip by the way. Kind of going in circles.)
 

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How many times have you gone 3-1 on college football and lost money? Thats right, some people never lose their big game.
 

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Sorry I wasn't trying to run you in circles...I was just saying that variance often plays a factor.
 

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This thread gave me a chance to take a look at my horse matchup numbers. The overall numbers look like:
622-656, ROI $.087, +199.41 units

When I break down the numbers a bit, here's what I see:

1 unit plays
281-327, ROI +$.082, +49.20 units

1 1/2 unit plays
91-108, ROI +$.015, +4.84 units

2 unit plays
133-128, ROI +$.099, +54.63 units

3 unit plays
55-50, ROI +$.088, +29.30 units

4 unit plays
46-30, ROI +$.193, +59.80 units

5+ unit plays
16-13, ROI +$.032, +6.32 units

Note there was a one time adjustment figure made for a book where I couldn't get my daily plays, but instead made one entry to account for the balance lost.

The results of the 5+ unit plays doesn't bother me as the sample size is nor really relevant. What is a little disturbing is the record on the 1 1/2 unit plays. Perhaps something to think about going forward.
 

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My general rule is to vary the wager amount so as to win the same amount on each successful play. Playing dogs tends to be riskier, with a correspondingly greater chance of a losing streak - the opposite obviously true for favorites.
 

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