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[h=1]Those fees at Las Vegas Strip restaurants? You don’t have to pay them[/h]<main class="ArticlePage-main" style="box-sizing: border-box; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"><article class="ArticlePage-mainContent" style="box-sizing: border-box; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"><figure class="Figure" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"><amp-img layout="responsive" src="https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/6266000/2147483647/strip/true/crop/640x526+0+0/resize/840x690!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F35%2F06%2Ff7f644444ece8025b0d7fb8c7b8e%2Fimg-90361.jpeg" alt="Exterior of Beer Park restaurant on the Las Vegas strip, one that adds a concession fee." width="840" height="690" class="i-amphtml-element i-amphtml-layout-responsive i-amphtml-layout-size-defined i-amphtml-layout" i-amphtml-layout="responsive" i-amphtml-auto-lightbox-visited="" lightbox="i-amphtml-auto-lightbox-1" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: block; position: relative; overflow: hidden !important; --loader-delay-offset: 452ms !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"><i-amphtml-sizer style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-top: 308.03125px; display: block !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"></i-amphtml-sizer>
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</amp-img>[COLOR=var(--primaryTextColor)][FONT=var(--secondaryHeadlineFont)]Beer Park restaurant on the Las Vegas Strip is one that adds a concession fee.
(Michael Hiller)

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[COLOR=var(--primaryTextColor)][FONT=var(--secondaryHeadlineFont)]By MICHAEL HILLER [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=var(--secondaryTextColor)][FONT=var(--secondaryHeadlineFont)]NOV. 7, 2019
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[COLOR=var(--primaryTextColor)][FONT=var(--bodyFont)]If you think hotel resort fees in Las Vegas are sneaky, be on the lookout for odd restaurant charges that go by official-sounding names but all add up to one thing: additional profits for the owners.
A handful of bars and restaurants along the Las Vegas Strip tack on fees variously called a “concession fee,” “venue fee” and “CNF,” which can amount to as much as 5% of the total bill. They’re often spelled out in tiny print on the menu, crammed alongside the mandated warnings that consuming undercooked meats and seafood can be dangerous to your health, but you may not notice them until you get the itemized receipt.
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</amp-img>[COLOR=var(--primaryTextColor)][FONT=var(--secondaryHeadlineFont)]Have you seen this on your Las Vegas restaurant menu? You may not have to pay it
(Michael Hiller)
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I first spotted the up-charge earlier this year at Hexx Kitchen and Bar, where my bill included a 4.85% CNF fee. It sounded legitimate, so I paid it without questioning it. The same 4.85% ding is posted on the menu at the adjacent Alexxa’s Bar, where it’s listed as a concessions fee.
The fee drops to 4.7% at Chayo Mexican Kitchen and Tequila Bar, a restaurant along the Linq Promenade across from Caesars Palace, and at Beer Park, an outdoor venue at Paris Las Vegas. The menu at Cabo Wabo Cantina also includes a notice that “all checks subject to CNF of 4.7%.”
And state and local sales taxes are applied to those extra fees as well.
When I questioned some servers and bartenders about the added charge, they said the fee was a “tourist tax” assessed on every restaurant and bar along the Strip; most venues build the fee into the menu prices, they said, but some break it out separately to be more “transparent.”
“That’s nonsense,” said Frank Volk, a commercial real estate broker who has represented landlords and tenants in restaurant and bar deals along the Strip for nearly 20 years. “I’ve never heard of these fees in a lease, and there’d be no requirement in a lease to pass these fees on to customers.
“These are made-up fees, pure profit. They charge it because they think no one will question it, so they can get away with it.”

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Scott Roeben, the founder of VitalVegas.com, a popular Vegas blog that covers the city from a tourist’s perspective, said: “These places are relying on people being duped. They’re betting that if you’re on vacation, you aren’t going to waste time asking a manager to remove a bogus charge. But this has become a serious problem because it affects the perception of Vegas as a place that nickels-and-dimes customers.”
Kelli Maruca, spokeswoman for Hexx and Alexxa’s, said in an email that their CNF up-charge “is a concession fee surcharge included on all guest checks.”
“It is disclosed on the menu and receipt and represents a small percentage charge just above sales tax to partially offset increasing operations and labor costs in the high-impact resort corridor. As costs continue to rise, surcharges are becoming more common and necessary in the restaurant and hospitality industries to ensure a sustainable, fair working environment for all of our team members.”
I asked why they didn’t increase menu prices to reflect those costs.
“In a sense, we are raising the prices,” Maruca said. “But we are going about it in the simplest, fairest, most transparent way possible.”
When I questioned the fee on my bill at Alexxa’s, my server advised me that the surcharge wasn’t mandatory and that he could remove it. A couple of minutes later, he handed me a revised bill without the tariff — and cautioned me to watch out for similar fees at other restaurants and bars along the Strip. Maruca confirmed that extra charges could be waived, if diners ask.
“Should a guest be uncomfortable with the surcharge, our policy is to explain it and, if appropriate, remove it,” Maruca said.
Volk, the real estate broker, said the only legally mandated charges in Vegas are sales tax and venue fees where there is live music, “so everything else is made up.”
Teri Williams, the public information officer for the Nevada Department of Business and Industry, says state law doesn’t address these types of surcharges. That means they are not explicitly illegal.
“There’s no one policing these fees, so it’s up to customers to speak up,” said Roeben of VitalVegas. “Don’t take it out on your server by lowering the tip; take it up with a manager.”
Just because the charge appears on your bill doesn’t mean you’re required to pay it as though it were a government tax. Customers can fight back in several ways.

  • Don’t patronize bars or restaurants that tack on fees.
  • Carefully check your bill for unfamiliar charges such as “CNF,” “concession” or “venue” fees.
  • Speak up. Tell your restaurant server or a manager you object to the fees and ask that they be removed.
  • Voice your opinion on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Yelp and TripAdvisor, in particular. “These are powerful ways to say you’re not happy,” Roeben said.
That kind of pushback may have prompted MGM Resorts to reverse course on a 5% up-charge it allowed at Mama Rabbit, a specialty tequila bar that opened a few months ago at Park MGM. Customers squawked on social media about the fee, which was quietly discontinued in September. The company’s bars and cocktail lounges are now prohibited from tacking on such surcharges, an MGM spokesman said.
“It’s only a handful of bars and restaurants on the Strip that are doing it, but it’s a slippery slope that could get worse,” Roeben said. “It’s up to customers to push back on crazy charges like these — not just for you but for every customer that follows you.”
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Everywhere you look Vegas is getting worse and worse with bs fees and expenses. Everything is a profit center.
 

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Everywhere you look Vegas is getting worse and worse with bs fees and expenses. Everything is a profit center.

Any companies publicly traded will always focus on bottom line.

I’ve been in plenty of budget meetings where profit margin is #1 focus.
 

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Vegas sucks in general.

You can't get a good game of BJ anymore, they will suck you dry with fees, like resort fees.

I will never return for a vacation, I'd only come back completely as a citizen, a poor man's San Diego, so to speak.

I do love the grid city concept where the whole city is a grid, and if you have half a brain any address is a piece of cake to find, unlike say Boston !

Vegas is a shithole, I either never go there ever again, or move back there permanently....I Know that sounds weird !

I don't want to spend my last quarter or eigth ?, Of my life in a place where I have to shovel snow and take leaves and spend tons on heating, the heating costs are negated by the cooling costs in the desert, but I'd rather be hot than cold !

Coastal San Diego is the best climate in the ****-tree, it ain't even close ! Give me Del Mar or Carsbad or anything in between...best place for me, but I can't afford it, more like a Raliegh or Daytona Beach for me !

I take it as it comes, Don't stress out, if I drip dead tonight, so be it !
 

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There are so many choices why would you pick a place that gouges you like this. The problem is most visitor stick to the strip where there is less value, alot more people and all the miserys described above. Open up your horizons and look off-strip and then UBER it if you want that experience, club or see a show. I haven't been to an MGM property since they started charging for parking and the odds (VP, BJ, just about any game) are much better off-strip.
 

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Just got back from Vegas, it sucked, everyone was rude and it took forever to get drinks

In the sportsbook they have minimums on horse bets and sports bets to get a drink ticket now, on slots you have to play the max bet to get a drink, and sitting at a bar you have to have a minimum IN the machine and bet max wager

Thank God I have the Caesars app to place bets from my cell in the sportsbook, the line on Saturday at noon was 37 deep, I counted it, with only 2 people working the window, half those people didn't get bets in

Sunday it was worse, people were raising hell, no one in the book cared

Since all these states legalized gambling Vegas is getting crushed, I wont go back for a while, I used to get everything comped, nothing has changed in my level of play or my level on my Total Rewards/M Life cards, I got around 70% comped but then they charge you $500 for a Saturday night along with resort fees
 

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I do love the grid city concept where the whole city is a grid, and if you have half a brain any address is a piece of cake to find, unlike say Boston !

Come to PHX then Doug E Doug. Whole city here is a grid. And if you lived in Vegas and can stand the heat, then you can surely stand PHX summers.

And PHX much nicer in general than Vegas. The suburbs here very affordable.

Fuck the humidity Doug. Daytona Beach is a shithole on top of it.
 

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on slots you have to play the max bet to get a drink

Ive been to Vegas at least 150 times. Including this past weekend. Stayed at Planet Hollywood. And no cocktail waitress has ever asked if I was max betting or even looked. Not in 20 years has that happened.

Not sure WTF you are talking about.
 

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they charge you $500 for a Saturday night along with resort fees

I'm only Platinum and I got Saturday, 11/9 COMPED at Planet Hollywood. Plan and book early. Then keep checking to see if rates are lowered.

If you wait until the last minute to book Caesar's, that's on you.
 

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Yes, the purpose of corporations and business is to make money; however, there they don't have to suck you dry. There are alternatives and there is competition. I chose New Orleans over Vegas for my Christmas trip this year. I like having a sport book when I am vacation but I have enough "sports accounts" to bet sports and I would rather go somewhere and be appreciated and not gouged at every point. Harrah's New Orleans has a decent casino, I get unlimited top shelf drinks with my rating (I love free drinks but it has to be top shelf liquor) and the restaurants are amazing. Don't mention the drinking and the music. Fuck Vegas.
 

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Come to PHX then Doug E Doug. Whole city here is a grid. And if you lived in Vegas and can stand the heat, then you can surely stand PHX summers.

And PHX much nicer in general than Vegas. The suburbs here very affordable.

Fuck the humidity Doug. Daytona Beach is a shithole on top of it.

I hate Phoenix, smells like burning cactus, Flagstaff or Taos would suit me better, or back to Colorado, anything but Phoenix, Carlsbad, Can or thereabouts is the best place in the world, at least for me, a more affordable option would be the Carolinas
 

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