Without All the Political BS ... Someone Please explain why a couple of those Gun Bills didn't get passed ??

[Acebb]

Because the NRA owns the Republican Party. Goggle " has your US congress person received donations from the NRA" then scroll down to the web results. click on any state and you will see its 95% Republicans.

Can you explain why the Democrats rejected 2 Republican proposals on gun control yesterday?

Note: you don't understand this issue, or really care to understand it. You're "for" something because the NRA is against it. No other reason.

 

[Willie99]

Well this needs to be changed..

now you're getting into the "political BS" you said you wanted to avoid

 

[Enfuego]

I think the NRA supports a watch list don't they?

How about the right to vote? Should we take a way your right to vote because you are under suspicion? How about the right to trial? The feds suspect you are a terrorist, no need for a trial. If you don't think gun ownership should be a right, that's fine repeal it, but as it is now it is a right. Allowing the government to strip away rights without due process is a scary idea, and sets a dangerous precedence.

Your right to vote is not dangerous to others. The two aren't comparable.

 

[Acebb]

But he had not broken a law that I know of?

Right.

And when you're on the FBI list, you've broken no law. Otherwise, I was responding to this sentence "If we're going to say he has rights to own a weapon which outweighs safety of our own law-abiding citizens, our priorities as a country are fucked up beyond repair."

It is funny to watch you say those words and then respond with "he broke no law"

 

[RenoChazz]

Maybe if someone is on a "watch" list, maybe we should be watching them?

 

[Willie99]

Because the NRA owns the Republican Party. Goggle " has your US congress person received donations from the NRA" then scroll down to the web results. click on any state and you will see its 95% Republicans.

so what comes first, the chicken or the egg?

 

[MantisToboggan]

Well, I'd say the process to get put on a terror watch list needs to be really overhauled. Like, an FBI field agency has to submit a package on a suspect in say Dallas. Then, the package goes into a terror watch review board comprised of multiple members in which evidence is reviewed and the result is voted on etc.

Bottom line - This Orlando shooter was sympathetic to ISIS and suicide bombers and the FBI knew it and it was proven. If we're going to say he has rights to own a weapon which outweighs safety of our own law-abiding citizens, our priorities as a country are fucked up beyond repair.

I don't think you'll find anyone who believes this. In my opinion, this isn't about protecting the second amendment, it's about protecting the fifth.

 

[JudgeWapner]

What I don't understand is why the NRA takes umbrage with the smart gun technology. How does that infringe upon anyone's rights?

 

[Enfuego]

Right.

And when you're on the FBI list, you've broken no law. Otherwise, I was responding to this sentence "If we're going to say he has rights to own a weapon which outweighs safety of our own law-abiding citizens, our priorities as a country are fucked up beyond repair."

It is funny to watch you say those words and then respond with "he broke no law"

I think we should be able to prevent the sale of weapons to a known terrorist sympathizer whether he breaks a law or not. That's just me though.

 

[Enfuego]

Maybe if someone is on a "watch" list, maybe we should be watching them?

Well yeah, then there's that. If, we can get a budget passed to increase the budget for a federal agency such as the FBI. They don't have the resources.

 

[RenoChazz]

I don't think you'll find anyone who believes this. In my opinion, this isn't about protecting the second amendment, it's about protecting the fifth.

+1 and a few other amendments as well.

 

[KingEleven]

Fair enough ... but do you believe that the system should changed ?

I'll take it a little further with Enfuego's statement ...

felons can't buy a Gun ... what about non violent felons ... should they be allowed to buy a Gun ?

The Lists ... or whatever you want to call them needs to be Fixed.

well, IMO, felons SHOULD be able to buy guns....they have paid their debt to society! If they are too dangerous to be put out in the streets, then they should not be put out in the streets.

 

[StevieRay]

i say if someone looks Muslim asks to purchase a gun, ask to see them eat some bacon first

 

[Greenbacks]

Follow the money

+1

 

[TomGshotput]

Not every citizen would give up their due process rights or their 2nd Amendment rights; just people who our government has deemed to have done enough to be on a terrorist watch list. Why are you standing up for people on the terrorist watch list?

If some people are not allowed their sixth amendment rights, then they are no longer rights, they are merely privileges some of us are still lucky enough to have.

 

[gijoe]

NRA dumped $922k into mccconnells re-election. I don't blame the republicans at all. You line my pockets up with that kind of money, I don't even want to talk about the 2nd amendment, they are taking care of me Its called politics

 

[RenoChazz]

Your right to vote is not dangerous to others. The two aren't comparable.

Maybe not, but they are both amendments, therefore under the law they are comparable. If the government can take away a right without due process, that's the precedence.

 

[IAM4UK]

Kind of curious, but if one person, is on the no fly list or watch list, what does it exactly take to get them arrested?

Some sort of "due process"?

How many laws do criminals and terriorist really follow?

isnt murder already illegal?

has anybody be able to find the "watch list" on line, can you get off the list?

i sort of remember a list that was circulated out of a government office ( irs )but when being investigated the hard drives where destroyed.

is there anybody who actually trust the government not to turn this "list" into some sort of enemy lists of some sort?

 

[IAM4UK]

Love to hear how do you stop a purchase from a private seller to another private seller? How would the government even know if such a transaction took place? Gun registration has already been deemed unconstitutional in some states.

Keep in mind, it's already illegal to sell a firearm to a felon, it's already illegal to commit a "straw" purchase.

 

[IAM4UK]

Lastly for you that trust this government so much. Did any of you hear what the AG said today about the Orland's jihadi's wife?

they have lost track of her whereabouts.

So not only did our government drop the ball 3 times with this guy, after the tragedy, they can't even keep track of the wife that may have been a part of this.