Even if they did treat it different (in Muslim countries they obviously treat women much differently) it doesn't make it right and is still against the law and should come with severe penalties. This isn't something you can just chalk up to a cultural divide, domestic violence is outright wrong with no black and white.
Yes many African-American relationships are far different than other ethnicity.
Many black women are not afraid to duke it out with their boyfriends or husbands.
In many cases, they are actually the aggressors over the males.
For any of you trying to tell those of us that know first hand and have been around it in our lives, you're wasting your breath because you have no idea what you are talking about & should have no opinion on the subject.
I don't mean this with disrespect or trying to sound like a jerk, but most of you have no clue...
Even if we all agree that different races/ethnicities have different views of women, how does that not make what he did bad and deserving of severe punishment?
My whole thing was just surprised people were like OMG THIS VIDEO IS SHOCKING, like it was in the news months ago, what y'all think this shit looks like.
ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS? You are obviously speaking from ignorance. I am Asian.. and sad as it may seem, some Asian cultures "accept" men hitting women. It is definitely not encouraged, definitely frowned upon, but it is something that when it happens, it is not surprising. It is not "OMG You should leave him!"
Americanized Asians are a totally different story though. I am talking about Asians that live in Asia or were originally raised there and moved to America later in life. Women are worth less than men in other countries. Don't believe me? Try having a daughter in China.
Get out of your bubble, not every country views every matter with the same viewpoint.
I am willing to bet that if videos came out tonight of Michael Vick electrocuting and drowning dogs back when he did that, with audio of their yelps, there would be another uproar about Vick. Visuals enhance stories. The story now is about how Goddell handled or mishandled this. A coverup costs him his job.
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"Black people don't treat domestic violence differently than white people. Asians don't treat it differently."
What makes someone American? US Citizenship? then yes, Asians treat it differently in America too. Not all, just like not ALL blacks treat it the same way. It's a cultural thing, it's not right, but it's real life. Sometimes you have to accept that bad shit goes on and it isn't looked down upon as much as you are trying to make it seem.
Does it make it right that it's accepted by different groups? NO NOT AT ALL. BUT IT HAPPENS. To say that NOBODY views it differently is ignorance.
All he meant was it is frowned upon in American society at large and their are strict laws against it. Hache is acting like Rice or anyone else who hits woman we can just chalk up to their background and call it a day
This isn't the most interesting issue to me but his statements are pretty out there.
This isn't the most interesting issue to me but his statements are pretty out there.
I'm arguing that these two may fist fight now & then, and it's not the same to them as you guys view it, and they are back together happy again the next day.
It is more common than you can imagine in many African-American relationships. (Not all)
And I'm speaking seeing it and being around it much of my life.
Not one person who sees this differently has said they think he gave her what she deserved.
They're just all arguing that it's being far blown out of proportion (thanks to the media and most of you falling for it), and also that their relationship could very likely be like something you're not familiar with, as I explained ethnicity-wise.
Listen, my last Hispanic girlfriend of 5yrs slapped me a few times.
I would just sit there and tell her if it makes her feel better to do it.
She'd do it again, then feel bad about it later.
Let's just say she was young, immature, and VERY jealous.
Did it ever cross my mind to hit her back??
Of course not!
But Ray Rice laying that blow to his girl, is only one of millions of similar incidents every year, yet he's being made out to be Satan!
And a lifetime ban from the NFL?!?
Get the F**k out of here that's insane!
Like I said, I'm 99.9 % sure you guys have no clue what some African-American relationships are like or about, and you are making yourself look foolish (Honestly I mean no offense) to those of us who do know and have been around it all of our lives.
That's my last comment on the subject because it's like arguing with someone about a movie they've never even seen.
That's my last comment on the subject because it's like arguing with someone about a movie they've never even seen.
Jeez...That must've taken a lot of restraint. Props to you for taking the higher road.
As far as the suspension I agree lifetime is absurd. He'll be back in a few years and if he was a more in demand player I'm not sure he would've even been cut (i.e elite QB/WR/D guy)
If he isn't eventually back in the league it is moreso because they don't wanna deal with the headache when it is a player of declining ability. Eagles took on Vick because obviously there was a lot of upside to that situation.
