Who won the Pres debate and why?

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From the perspective of political junkies, McCain kicked ass ...

... but when considering that they're essentially campaigning for swing voters, I think Obama won the day. McCain kept talking about his experience, and Obama talked about people's problems.

McCain didn't show much compassion unless it was a pre-written story. Not good strategy.


Neither guy even answered the questions early on... the mod was pounding the table... "WHAT WOULD BE ON HOLD AFTER THE 700 BILLION DOLLAR BAIL OUT", " DO YOU EVEN AGREE WITH IT", " ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTIONS"....

Obama couls have CRUSHED Mccain here, but he tip toed around the issue just like Mclame. I was shocked he wasn't decisive and on the offensive. Then look at how Mclame WAS decisive and on the attack during foreign policy.

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everyone saw what they wanted to see.

who cares who people who drew their line in the sand for the republican party, before mccain was even the candidate, think won the debate?

one thing is for sure. calling him BHO, Barack HUSSEIN Obama and a communist only exposes a lack of substance in your stance.
 

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Calling him his focking name is a lack of substance?


No wait... It must be racist to call him Barrack Hussein Obama... you just want to call him Hussein because that is unpopular.
 

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see thats what i mean c-gold. you already have your mccain bias so it's not worth debating on who you think won because you'll be an auto disagree. you say you don't like mccain but your posts and racial rhetoric suggest otherwise.

like i said wait till the morning. a rx who won the pres debate and why thread has little merit on who supposedly won the debate, like it means to you. your trying to hard and caring too much. this is politics, you live in DC, i thought you would understand how it works. half the people automatically disagree with the other half. your just on the mccain side and trying to push your point on us.

just wait until you have some data on it.
 

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....when he nailed Obama on his ridiculous idea of having talks with Ahmenejad.

you can hear what you want....

WASHINGTON, Sept. 16 (UPI) -- Former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger says the United States should begin direct negotiations with Iran over its nuclear enrichment program.

Kissinger, speaking Monday at George Washington University along with four other former U.S. State Department secretaries, said the next president should initiate high-level discussions with Iran "without conditions," ABC News reported.

The opinion of the former secretary of state for Republican presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford differs sharply with that of the current GOP administration, which has maintained a strict policy of not negotiating directly with governments deemed to sponsor international terrorism. The Bush administration has demanded that Iran dismantle its nuclear program as a precondition for any direct talks.

The other former secretaries of state, Madeleine Albright, James Baker III, Warren Christopher and Colin Powell, were asked to identify the biggest challenges the next president will face. They answered the fight against terrorism, restoring America's reputation abroad, r-building U.S. economic power and global climate change, ABC reported.
 

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I don't like Mccain... but I can't stand that socialist Obama.

I am unbiased though. I capped football for 5 years on various forumns and people didn't even know who my favorite team was because I tell it like it is.

Obama won early on, but Mccain crushed him on foreign policy.

Can you find anybody that says Obama won the foreign policy debate when Mccain was joking on him, laughing, and Obama finally said " I agree with your assessment"?

Mccain won the speeches early on, but not the DEBATE about what to DO.
 

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see thats what i mean c-gold. you already have your mccain bias so it's not worth debating on who you think won because you'll be an auto disagree. you say you don't like mccain but your posts and racial rhetoric suggest otherwise.

like i said wait till the morning. a rx who won the pres debate and why thread has little merit on who supposedly won the debate, like it means to you. your trying to hard and caring too much. this is politics, you live in DC, i thought you would understand how it works. half the people automatically disagree with the other half. your just on the mccain side and trying to push your point on us.

just wait until you have some data on it.


and quit it with the racial shit...

Yes, I don't like Obama... that doesn't mean I am racist.
It might have worked with HIllary, but not here.

Playing the race card into the white house is a joke.
 

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Calling him his focking name is a lack of substance?


No wait... It must be racist to call him Barrack Hussein Obama... you just want to call him Hussein because that is unpopular.

yes. you do it to be a fear monger because you see that it increases your chances to be heard as opposed to true substance.

it is weak.
 

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I think Obama won that their debate cause he was dressed better, talked goodlyer than McCain did and he seems to know more important stuff and he looked younger. This is my take on this here debate.

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I want 90 minutes of my life back.

The whole thing was f'ing worthless.

The whole notion that anyone watching was actually tabulating some kind of Score as if a "winning score" would result in even ten people nationwide changing their already decided vote for POTUS
 

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I don't like Mccain... but I can't stand that socialist Obama.

I am unbiased though. I capped football for 5 years on various forumns and people didn't even know who my favorite team was because I tell it like it is.

Obama won early on, but Mccain crushed him on foreign policy.

Can you find anybody that says Obama won the foreign policy debate when Mccain was joking on him, laughing, and Obama finally said " I agree with your assessment"?

Mccain won the speeches early on, but not the DEBATE about what to DO.

you are unbiased, right.

i think you mean obama at the bottom there...

i think on certain points mccain won the foreign policy debate but not on all of it.

personally i think both candidates said what their bases wanted to hear but i think obama appealed more to independents.
 

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yes. you do it to be a fear monger because you see that it increases your chances to be heard as opposed to true substance.

it is weak.


Why would people be scared of Obama's name? Isn't that something he should be proud of?
 
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The whole notion that anyone watching was actually tabulating some kind of Score as if a "winning score" would result in even ten people nationwide changing their already decided vote for POTUS

I disagree 100%.

Statistics show very clearly that most people watch the first debate
and viewing numbers drop greatly (for debates) after that.

McCain's strong showing could very easily bring him a bump in the polls,
and move a considerable amount of "undecideds" over to the
right side.
 

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you are unbiased, right.

i think you mean obama at the bottom there...

i think on certain points mccain won the foreign policy debate but not on all of it.

personally i think both candidates said what their bases wanted to hear but i think obama appealed more to independents.

Mccain was teaching foreign policy 101. It was sad.

The reason why I am shocked is because Obama is a better speaker and early on his 2 min not answering the question messages were effective... Mccain just rambled about spending.

but once the debate really started ( foreign policy), Mccain was the clear winner, you said it yourself.
 

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Neither guy even answered the questions early on... the mod was pounding the table... "WHAT WOULD BE ON HOLD AFTER THE 700 BILLION DOLLAR BAIL OUT", " DO YOU EVEN AGREE WITH IT", " ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTIONS"....

Obama couls have CRUSHED Mccain here, but he tip toed around the issue just like Mclame. I was shocked he wasn't decisive and on the offensive. Then look at how Mclame WAS decisive and on the attack during foreign policy.

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Whatever ... you asked who you thought won, I answered.

If you already knew the answer, don't ask the fucking question.
 

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the focus group on cnn said 61 obama 39 mccain with 32 members equally split up. take it for what its worth.

and thhose were members in franklin county ohio, dems, independents, repubs that would be open to voting for either.
 

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I disagree 100%.

Statistics show very clearly that most people watch the first debate
and viewing numbers drop greatly (for debates) after that.

McCain's strong showing could very easily bring him a bump in the polls,
and move a considerable amount of "undecideds" over to the
right side.


Mccain had homefield advantage with all of those defense/foreign policy questions.

A) Obama... I will work with foreign leaders on diplomacy
B) Mccain... I know those foreign leaders... He names them all off, names off their opponents, the times he went to those countries, and how foreign policy really works...

Obama... My VP knows foreign policy :)
 

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Whatever ... you asked who you thought won, I answered.

If you already knew the answer, don't ask the fucking question.


No need to get uspet... Obama has a few more debates to catch up. Don't get your panties all up in a bunch there redsox.
 

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September 26, 2008, 11:02 PM
Early Poll Results Suggest More Uncommitted Voters Saw Obama As Debate Winner


CBS News and Knowledge Networks conducted a nationally representative poll of approximately 500 uncommitted voters reacting to the debate in the minutes after it happened.

These figures are still preliminary and could change as more respondents complete the survey. But here's what we have so far:

Forty percent of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Barack Obama was the winner. Twenty-two percent thought John McCain won. Thirty-eight percent saw it as a draw.

Forty-six percent of uncommitted voters said their opinion of Obama got better tonight.

Sixty-eight percent of uncommitted voters think Obama would make the right decisions about the economy. Forty-one percent think McCain would.
 

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