Who rises again... Miami, FSU, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Michigan, Washington?

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Michigan when Rich recruits his own guys. Probably Miami. I'd take (G) none of the above first though.
 

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michigan and ND will be ranked high but still get killed in any real big games just because they will schedule cupcakes til the end. Miami will be back in a year or two. FSU and NEB are tossups to early to tell and i think Wash wayyy back
 

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I've never understood why that is. While south FLA is a bit more of a desirable location than, say, Tallahassee, UM is still just a small private school that mainly rich Jewish boys from the East Coast go to who couldn't get into better schools. The student population is a very bizarre mix to say the least, their facilities are some of the worst in the country, and now they're playing in an NFL stadium in the worst city statistically with respect to supporting their teams at the gate.


The program builds excellent NFL careers for college players. Canes draft picks having much success in the NFL. Even thou there facilities suck canes strength and conditioning coach trains 20+ NFL players every summer on campus. Go figure...

Many Miami players are very close to the program after college is over.

+ Hot bitches and great recruiting in South Beach...
 
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Old but good article about the Canes NFL players tradition of returning back every summer...

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/08/sports/sp-dognfl8


Green Bay Packers tight end Bubba Franks arrived in a cherry red Hummer. Teammate Javon Walker pulled up in a snow white Escalade. Buffalo Bills running back Willis McGahee drove up in a black BMW with wide silver rims. Washington Redskins wide receiver Santana Moss parked a dark silver Mercedes-Benz with the Florida tag 8-TREY.
In the late morning of a recent weekday, the National Football League players emerged from their pricey cars and walked undisturbed and virtually unrecognized through a student-athlete parking lot at the University of Miami, disappearing into the school’s athletic center through a side door. Inside, they attended what has become the most prestigious – though unofficial, unaffiliated and certainly unadvertised – offseason training camp in the NFL.
In the conformist world of the NFL, where most players diligently work out with their teams in the offseason even though the practices are not mandatory, the training sessions here are unique. They primarily attract products of Miami’s powerhouse football program, some of the league’s biggest – and brashest – stars, young men who have the confidence to tell their pro clubs that they can train better and harder at their former school.
“I looked in the weight room one day and there were 11 first-round draft choices working out,” University of Miami football coach Larry Coker said of a particularly well-attended workout last summer. “I was somewhat amazed at all of the people here. I was trying to put a dollar figure on what the guys were worth, and they were worth more than the weight room, believe me.”
It’s not surprising that Miami’s football program, which has produced 20 first-round draft picks in the last five years and is known for a swagger that borders on arrogance, would produce players who would willingly snub their professional teams’ offseason workout regimens. The cocksure mentality has even lured outsiders like Walker, a No. 1 draft pick out of Florida State, and New York Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress, a first-rounder from Michigan State, both of whom have become regulars.
“Everybody who works here went in the first round,” McGahee said matter-of-factly and with only a bit of exaggeration after a session attended by at least six first-round players. It “got us to the first round, so we’re going to continue to work out here.”
Moss, a former Miami Hurricane acquired by the Redskins in a trade with the New York Jets, trained here instead of reporting to voluntary workouts with Washington – until winning a contract extension this week. Moss arrived at Redskins Park in Ashburn, Va., on Thursday to sign the deal.
Clinton Portis has shown up now and then, and defensive back Sean Taylor, who has skipped the team’s recent workouts, made one appearance – and only to play a game of half-court basketball, Miami strength coach Andreu Swasey said. Both are former Hurricanes.
Under NFL rules, teams are allowed to have offseason workouts, but they must be voluntary. Most teams, to put it politely, encourage their players to attend.
Redskin Coach Joe Gibbs has said he prefers that his players attend workouts sanctioned by the team, and he expressed his unhappiness repeatedly this spring that Moss and Taylor had chosen not to show their faces at Redskins Park. Yet, Gibbs raved about the program at Miami during a news conference announcing Moss’ signing on Thursday.
“They have a real camaraderie at that school,” Gibbs said. “There’s not a single person I talked to down there that didn’t talk about their conditioning program. I don’t know if you saw that poster they had out, but they had a poster with about 23 guys. I’ll tell you this, it’s pretty impressive. They’re all ripped.”
Arriving in T-shirts, gold chains, do-rags, or – in the case of New York Giant tight end Jeremy Shockey – a dull wool cap despite temperatures in the mid-80s, the professionals are largely indistinguishable from the collegiate Hurricanes who share the facilities and come and go at similar times. On any given day, between five and more than a dozen will turn up, taking part in a program so regimented that they move virtually non-stop for between one and two hours. The pros do much of what Miami’s collegians do, lifting weights, running sprints and trudging through a sand box on the university athletic fields. They play regular games of half-court basketball for fitness.
“You got guys from different teams from all over the NFL,” said Walker, a Pro Bowler who missed a mandatory minicamp in Green Bay last week because of a contract dispute. “There’s probably a little bit of macho going on, talking about who is going to play who, and what they’re going to do. But it’s kind of like family now. We’re pushing each other four days a week.”
The late-morning workouts, which are held every weekday but Wednesday, are draped in seclusion. Some players depart furtively, ducking interview requests. A boy casing the grounds for autographs of Hurricanes football players this past week had no idea he could collect the signatures of NFL players, too. The NFL campers use three fields closed to the public and a 13,000-square-foot weight room stocked with $425,000 in customized equipment at the back of the Hecht Athletic Center. The weight room was part of a 22,000-square-foot addition to the center that was completed in 2001 and cost $4.5 million.
“It’s a good situation for them, and it’s good for us,” Coker said. “We don’t bother them a lot. It’s work.”
Several pros said the main reason for their return is confidence in the strength and conditioning program designed by Swasey, a former defensive back at Baylor who oversees separate regimens for the collegians and NFL players.
Tradition also plays a part for Miami alums, as most recall seeing other stars returning to campus to get in shape for their NFL seasons, several former Hurricanes said. For others, the logistics work well. Indianapolis Colts running back Edgerrin James worked toward his undergraduate degree while training. Many have homes, condos or relatives in the region.
Others heard about the group from friends and found appeal in the idea of hard workouts in a comfortable environment. Shockey said he lives with his trainer while in town. McGahee frequently has dinner at his grandmother’s. Both described the sessions as more challenging than what they would find in an NFL camp at this time of year.
“Here, they push you a little bit with the young kids,” said Shockey, the Giants’ No. 1 pick in 2002. “It’s a lot more aggressive and higher tempo.”
On Thursday, a dozen NFL players assembled on the field shortly before 11 a.m. for exercises designed to hone first-step explosiveness. For 30 minutes, they sprinted, shuttled, high-stepped and tippy-toed through ladders, egged on by Swasey and led by the ever-smiling and joke-cracking McGahee.
“This is where I get my hunger in the offseason,” said Franks, Green Bay’s first pick in the 2000 draft. “You don’t want to come back and look bad in front of the younger guys.”
 

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The program builds excellent NFL careers for college players. Canes draft picks having much success in the NFL. Even thou there facilities suck canes strength and conditioning coach trains 20+ NFL players every summer on campus. Go figure...

Many Miami players are very close to the program after college is over.

+ Hot bitches and great recruiting in South Beach...

Yeah, there was sarcasm intended there when saying that South FL is just a 'bit' better than Northern FL, but still, UM's one of the most bizarre schools and campus vibes anywhere and I've always found it hilarious as to how much loyalty it draws from its alumni. Back in the day it was all about Hurricanes garb everywhere you looked, but no one had a clue as to what the actual school was like. You show-up there and it's a bunch of Jewish kids on one side and then the Haitian mafia on the other, really a funny scene.

Don't forget that tons of other athletes are drawn there, and to the state of FL in general, because of no state income tax. Being in the South Beach area already, it's convenient for them to just hop over to "The U" and train. They all live there in the offseason in those little gated communities and probably take-up their whole neighborhood block playing pick-up hoops and smoking weed with each other.
 

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More talent available today then there was 20 years ago.

Who can get back into the top 10 and stay there where they belong?

It's so great to have Alabama with Saban back in the mix. Hopefully their momentum will carry past this Saturday regardless of outcome.

I'm so sick and tired of middle class teams like USF, Kansas, Wake Forest, Missouri, and Boise taking-up meaningful bowl spots. These schools have no football tradition and I'd rather keep it that way.

Bring back the days where there was a wider gap between rich and poor, parity is killing the game.

There is more talent available today that allows these so called mid-level schools to recruit the "left overs" (which many times end up being good performers); these schools can now fill up their roosters from a larger number of good players available today then there was years ago.

With good coaching and the motivation factor to demonstrate that they can play with the "BIG BOYS" results in these teams, many times, "upsetting" the "old powers" and end up in the top 20 or even the top 10 rankings.

Who would have thought that MAC conferance teams could compete with the Big 10 schools 20 years ago the way they do today. Applachian State knocking of Michigan in Ann Arbor? The wolverines would not have scheduled a team like this back then.

Times have changed; the "old days" and the dominance of college football by the "old powers" is over. I do share your sentiments for the "old days" and the big games that ensued.

Good luck on your plays this week.

Mac Donald
 

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I don't know how much this week will tell us about Miami really. Both Miami and NC are stacked on defense while the offenses are still pretty one-dimensional. NC is no longer a cake walk so if this game is close I don't think you can say that Miami isn't a very good team.


Actually I think Miami is a very good team on the rise and I expect them to beat a good UNC team handily. I think they are just a consistent QB away. A lost this week would be a big set back. I think this game sets the tone for the rest of the season, with that said, Miaimi is one of my top plays this week.

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Miami - Already turning the program around. Will be a top 10 team as early as next year but most likely in 2 years.

I'm not buying it. They beat up on a bad A&M team, which is something they managed to do last year when they were the 9th-best team in a weak ACC.
 

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I'm not buying it. They beat up on a bad A&M team, which is something they managed to do last year when they were the 9th-best team in a weak ACC.

Recruiting class has been very strong the last few years. Defense is already top notch and as soon as there offense catches up they will be top 10 program. They are starting many Freshman on offense at the skill positions and OL.

I do think that with the way the ACC looks this season, Miami could make a run at the ACC Coastal title and an appearance in the ACC Championship Game.

If the D stays the same and Robert Marve grows into the QB they think he will be, IMO they will be back in the mix.
 

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Miami's freshman class and mainly the Northwestern high school kids are going to lead this team to multiple ACC championships.
 

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Actually I think Miami is a very good team on the rise and I expect them to beat a good UNC team handily. I think they are just a consistent QB away. A lost this week would be a big set back. I think this game sets the tone for the rest of the season, with that said, Miaimi is one of my top plays this week.

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Miami can prove they are on the road back this weekend. Sure A&M was easy for them. A win vs. a good UNC team w/o Yates should be proof. Marve only has to keep the ball secure. Couldn't agree more. Play the Canes -7.5
 

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Common theme here is that, outside of Washington (who obviously has neither), we've got great recruiters who don't have a clue about the X's and O's.

I think Pelini will prove to be the best pure coach of the bunch, but can he actually recruit to Lincoln?

I agree...pelini is a good coach but it is hard to recruit to nebraska. Bringing back the walkon program will help a little but they need some big recruits pulled from the coasts and texas if they will rise back to the top
 

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