Who is Al R and what is his connection with Prepaid ATM

[WalkofLife]

Oldfriend:

You're a coward. You're intentionaly trying to dodge the question. But let me play:

I wrote:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> imagine book owners are safe as long as they don't keep large balances with ANY transfer company. The only pocket a man can trust is his own.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't find anything about "deep pockets" there. Where did I say anything about deep pockets? Maybe I should explain the analogy to you:

The only pocket a man can trust is his own. means exactly what it states. In the end a man can only trust himself when it comes to money.

Now answer my question:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> PrePaid ATM is indeed a very convenient service. Big books have accounts with them. Why would you guys think that the owner's name should not be disclosed in this thread? Does it have anything to do with that name not being honorable?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Again, notice I'm not attacking PrePaid ATM, I'm just trying to let gamblers know who the will be dealing with. How is that wrong?

 

[loveladys7777]

Walk,

Truce man..You are right about displaying what you know about this company..I have a right to display about what i know about this company..We share views

Walk, look what you did to me man........1-0 lead top of the 8th..Nice under..now its pitt 10-0 top of the 9th!

 

[WalkofLife]

Truce then. People will read and decide. Good outcome.

Take the W-Sox, oldfriend. And don't jinx me.

 

[Froggy]

Oldfriend,

You really are mistaken. Do you personally know who Al R. is? I do. Do you personally know anybody who has had dealings with Al R.?? I do. Do you personally know people who have been stolen from, cheated, extorted, and lied to by Al R??? I DO!!!!!! SO PLEASE REFRAIN UNLESS YOU KNOW THE FACTS...FACT IS AL R IS A CROOK!!! Hell, his non-murdering son was working in CR until daddy had to fly him back home because it was not safe for his son to be down here while daddy was stealing sportsbooks money and hacking into their systems.

The reason why some of these books choose to deal with PPATM, KNOWING AL R IS A CROOK, is due to the limited resources for deposits. It is risk vs. reward and he has not stolen from them yet. I guarantee you that those books have no idea what Al R has done in the past to other books for two reasons: (1) Books who were stolen from, cheated, blackmailed, etc do not want everybody knowing what happened to them so they keep a lid on it and (2) Those books using PPATM are looking for another option and do not necessarily care what has happened in the past. Oh and #3, most of the mentioned shops have enough "muscle" to deter even the biggest thieves from stealing.

I will say, I was surprised you backed down to Walk. But allow me to say, I laughed at your statement, "I have a right to display about what i know about this company.." What do you REALLY know about PPATM, besides that it has worked for you in the past?

(edited)My previous lashes at OF have been edited as I see now he was just voicing his side. Thank you.


Froggy

[This message was edited by Froggy on May 26, 2003 at 05:29 PM.]

 

[Froggy]

OH..and as an after thought....

Al R. is known to blackmail books after hacking their database and/or sending "clouds" to disrupt their service. Carib uses PPATM. Carib is hacked and the hackers attempt to blackmail them. COINCIDENCE??

(edited) Comments directed at OF were deleted as he was simply expressing his view.

Froggy

 

[loveladys7777]

Froggy,

It is clear you and walk know more about this Al R, guy then me..Perhaps i was wrong in my statement! I don't know anything!! the only thing i know is i have used prepaidatm and it work fine for me.I like to know if your facts are true...I don't understand at all what sportsbooks like carib,canbet, and many more are using them!

 

[Ninja]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FatFrank:
I would recommend PrePaid ATM over Securebuxx anyday...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's sure not saying much.

 

[yankee123]

I use Prepaid atm never a problem , and I never got a phone call from them....using prepaidtam with carib is the best in my opinion, once you request a withdraw the money is in your prepaidatm account in seconds and I mean seconds and from there go to any atm machine and get your money.

 

[Eddiefive]

His name is Al Ross. And I have known him since he was the original owner of island casino. All I CAN SAY IS BUYER BEWARE.

 

[oldmantime]

Let Me say this: I have 1 MasterCard, 3 Visa Cards, 1 Bank Debit Card, 1 Sears Card and NONE OF THEM asked for my driver's liscense when opening the accounts.

PPATM--Needs it! SSomething ain't quite right.
Oh yes--Forgot Neteller and Paypal--Neither asked for my driver's lisc. (As I have stated before--SS# No problem---Driver's Lisc.--For WHAT)

 

[MrKennedy]

Drivers Lisc # is another way of verifying an individual is who they say they are. I know the phone company requires it.. and also when you apply for a cell phone they require it as well..

 

[Jazz]

I don't have a card, hadn't thought about it, but NETeller offers a card that you can transfer money to from your NT account, then use at any CIRRUS and some other systems' ATMS, for nominal fees.

However, I appreciate the time people took here, and it DID serve to alert me to this 'Al R' character, so I never will get a card. Why? Because the 'terms and conditions' at the site are governed by Nevada: "Governing Law: This agreement shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of Nevada, and all applicable Federal laws. Any actions or proceeding with respect to this Agreement or any services thereunder shall be brought only before a federal or state court in the District of Nevada." Seeing as how their customer care address is in Ohio, I have to assume they are a U.S. company - if true, if Al R gets in trouble again as his past seems to ensure he will (greed never dies), isn't it likely that this company will be the target of an investigation, with all that it implies? Here's a quote from their privacy policy that highlights my concern:

"Therefore, only an account code is disclosed; all other information required by other sites and with other services, such as first and last name, banking history, social security number, credit card number, etc. will never be disclosed by PrePaidATM, Inc…unless ordered to release this information by court order or legitimate governmental inquiry."

So without knowing whether the service works as advertised, simply knowing the history of the head cheese is sufficient for me. No thanks - fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice ...

 

[oldmantime]

Kennedy---I don't know what state you're in . But I've had two different cell phones and neither asked for my driver's lisc.

As for Verizon---They don't have a clue what my driver's lisc # is (Verizon--local phone Co)