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Oh Snap: Krauthammer Calls ObamaCare’s 7.1 Million Number ‘Phony’



Today on Fox News Charles Krauthammer shredded the administration’s sign-up claim in two ways. Firstly, he called the number ‘phony’ and ‘wonderfully precise.’ Secondly, he pointed out that no one knows how many of those who’ve signed up have paid their premiums or were previously were uninsured:
If it turns out that the overwhelming majority of the so-called 7.1 were people who had health insurance, liked their health insurance, were renewing their health insurance, and got kicked off their health insurance, whose lives are disrupted, premiums are raised, deductibles are raised, and lost their doctors are now among the 7.1, so it’s a net negative.
We may not know the exact numbers for a bit, but you can be sure that Democrats are going to do just about everything they can to legitimize this number no matter how irrational their arguments are.


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Oh Snap: Krauthammer Calls ObamaCare’s 7.1 Million Number ‘Phony’



Today on Fox News Charles Krauthammer shredded the administration’s sign-up claim in two ways. Firstly, he called the number ‘phony’ and ‘wonderfully precise.’ Secondly, he pointed out that no one knows how many of those who’ve signed up have paid their premiums or were previously were uninsured:
If it turns out that the overwhelming majority of the so-called 7.1 were people who had health insurance, liked their health insurance, were renewing their health insurance, and got kicked off their health insurance, whose lives are disrupted, premiums are raised, deductibles are raised, and lost their doctors are now among the 7.1, so it’s a net negative.
We may not know the exact numbers for a bit, but you can be sure that Republicans are going to do just about everything they can to illlegitimize this number no matter how irrational their arguments are.


video ========= http://www.ijreview.com/2014/04/125906-krauthammer-7-1-million-phony-number/






FYP.
Of Course BOTH sides will try to legitimize their side, but only Obama and the Dems will be called on it by the Amen Chorus in here.
 

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Oh Snap: Krauthammer Calls ObamaCare’s 7.1 Million Number ‘Phony’

Today on Fox News Charles Krauthammer shredded the administration’s sign-up claim in two ways. Firstly, he called the number ‘phony’ and ‘wonderfully precise.’ Secondly, he pointed out that no one knows how many of those who’ve signed up have paid their premiums or were previously were uninsured:
If it turns out that the overwhelming majority of the so-called 7.1 were people who had health insurance, liked their health insurance, were renewing their health insurance, and got kicked off their health insurance, whose lives are disrupted, premiums are raised, deductibles are raised, and lost their doctors are now among the 7.1, so it’s a net negative.
We may not know the exact numbers for a bit, but you can be sure that Democrats are going to do just about everything they can to legitimize this number no matter how irrational their arguments are.


video ========= http://www.ijreview.com/2014/04/125906-krauthammer-7-1-million-phony-number/

The 7 million is total bullshit, that's why they won't release the data to the public.

The lying liar is lying his ass off - AGAIN!

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Krauthammer and another children's comic strip! Can't write better comedy!! The clown show never fails to amuse!
 

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AK, why do I have a feeling you've done this before? :missingte

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Will premiums go up and quality of care go down? That will be the tell-tell.

Please someone post data if they can find it of the social class of these people that signed up. Also if they are employed. This is what I am curious about.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Will premiums go up and quality of care go down? That will be the tell-tell.

Please someone post data if they can find it of the social class of these people that signed up. Also if they are employed. This is what I am curious about.

Thanks in advance.

Obviously the social class is going to be predominantly poor as they were the reason for this in the first place. Is there a point to such a stupid question?
 

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Only this administration would announce these numbers on April Fools Day. LOL

Transparency don't you know. They are counting Medicare sign ups also from what I understand. Medicare is already in the hole. Anyone who thinks this plan can get off the ground needs to move to Malaysia.
 

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First couple months man. It will be fine. There is a number in the world that would make you like Obama. You have your mind made up, no use even arguing.
I assume you meant to say, Is there?

My answer would be yes, an honest one.
 

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After reading this thread I have a couple of observations.

AK is an Ignoranus and Obama pulled that number out of his ass.
 

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Obama calls it a success. I call it a colossal waste of money.

President Barack Obama's home state of Hawaii's Obamacare exchange spent $35,749 per enrollee, a sum greater than the price of a new 2014 BMW 320i sedan (MSRP $32,750).

"Just obscene amounts of money have disappeared into these state exchanges for very little actual performance," said American Commitment President Phil Kerpen. "You just have this huge duplication and waste in places like Hawaii and Oregon."

A CNBC analysis ranking taxpayer-funded federal expenditures on Obamacare found that Hawaii enrolled just 5,744 people through its Obamacare exchange at a cost to taxpayers of $205,342,270. The second-worst performer was the District of Columbia which spent $20,499.37 per enrollee. DC bagged $133,573,927 to sign up just 6,518 people.

CNBC says that the national average cost per enrollee is $6,894.05. However, the number of those counted as enrollees that have actually activated their coverage by paying their first month's premium is presently unclear. A New York Times analysis revealed that at least one in five Obamacare enrollees did not pay their first premiums in 2013, thereby leaving them uninsured – a fact that stands to skyrocket per-enrollee figures. Moreover, Washington Post columnist Ed Rogers notes that the federal government's enrollment figures also include duplicate and incomplete applications.

Obamacare remains deeply unpopular. The latest Associated Press poll finds that just 26% of Americans now support Obamacare.

Obamacare will cost U.S. taxpayers $2.6 trillion over the next ten years.

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Am I missing something? Wasn't the goal of ACA to put a dent in 45 million uninsured? How do we know ACA was successful without knowing how many of the 7+ million signups were previously uninsured?

858k were previously uninsured.... 6.3M already had insurance and now just pay more for less. win win win...all he does is win


love this line...
The White House has also yet to release any of its official figures on how many Americans have actually paid their premiums under Obamacare.
 

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[h=1]Media Joins Obama in Mission Accomplished Obamacare Spin[/h]
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[h=2]The old media really seemed to be reveling in the "miraculous" recovery of Obamacare, uncritically reporting signups have "surged" to that vaunted, administration-set "seven million" enrollees figure that remains under a cloud of suspicion given major gaps in what we know about it.[/h]Tuesday, Obama held a triumphal news conference replete with adoring crowds applauding and some of his most deeply partisan rhetoric of his presidency. It was a spiking of the football that Obama hasn't indulged in since he "got" bin Laden.
As soon as the administration announced its rabbit-out-of-the-hat trick of 7 million enrollees, for instance, Politico had sent out a breaking news email saying that Obamacare had "an extraordinarily strong finish."
As to that "finish," in 2008 Obama sold Obamacare as a way to help forty million uninsured Americans to get healthcare insurance. On Tuesday the President "celebrated" that he enrolled 7 million Americans into Obamacare, many of whom had insurance before but had their insurance cancelled because of his healthcare plan. This is the "extraordinarily strong finish" Politico touted.
Politico followed that breaking news email alert with piece talking about the "massive surge" of Obamacare enrollees that occurred on March 30 and 31.
That "massive surge" was an enrollee number that went from 6 million to 7 million.
The news site went on to report that Obama told the world that he hit the big mark, but did at least note that the numbers that made up Obama's "huge surge" have not been confirmed by any factual, hard proof.
A headline at Roll Call helped celebrate by saying, "Obama, Democrats Have 7 Million Reasons for a Victory Lap."
Roll Call went on to uncritically say that Tuesday "vindicated" Obama.
"For a president and congressional Democrats under siege for months last year during the disastrous HealthCare.gov rollout, Tuesday’s news of 7 million exchange sign-ups came as vindication four years in the making," the Washington-based paper wrote.
Again, remember that none of Obama's claims have been substantiated, no verifiable report of the age mix has been confirmed, no number of enrollees that didn't have insurance before has been determined, and it isn't clear how many actually went from their enrollment and actually got any healthcare insurance nor if they paid their premiums.
The headline that initially appeared on the Washington Post's website was simply a quote of Obama saying "the debate over repealing this law is over." Needless to say, it's highly unusual for a newspaper to forsake its own headline describing what happened, delegating that role to government official. The paper later changed the headline online to, "More than 7 million have enrolled under Affordable Care Act, White House says." The print edition dropped the whole "White House says" bit.
The Post then wrote that the supposed 7 million was a "sharp turnaround from the troubled beginnings of enrollment last fall."
NPR reported that the "website problems were fixed" but this is only partially true. It is true that the site works better for folks signing on from home, but there is still no indication that insurance companies are getting useful information on the back end of the Obamacare website and many state exchanges have failed even worse.
NBC News thought that Tuesday's celebration was "a number that exceeded all hopes." Again, 40 million are supposedly uninsured. Obama signed up "7 million."
In one of Bloomberg's reports, Obama's allies were given every paragraph but one in the story to sing Obama's praises and the one paragraph given to an Obama critic only got 17 words to disagree, and mildly at that.
On TV, the happy talk was no different. ABC's Matthew Dowd lectured the GOP that they'd better lay off Obamacare now because it is such a great success. CNN was exultant that Obamacare had "a pretty miraculous recovery." And NBC hyped Obamacare and gave a scant 22 seconds to reporting its problems.
In an embarrassing bit of exuberance, the left-wing New Republic quickly updated a chart on its website after White House press secretary Jay Carney told a writer there the government's official numbers had been updated. "As POTUS just announced, with new data in, the number has been revised upward since my briefing," Carney told TNR's Jonathan Cohn.
"Duly noted -- and item updated," Cohn replied six minutes later. Yes, sir, Mr. Press Secretary, sir.
Huffington Post also jumped to sing Obama's praises with an aggrandizing graphic made of a pun saying that the Obamacare was "Barack Enroll!"
Other romanticized headlines at HuffPo claimed that "train did not wreck," and "Affordable Care Act Here to Stay."
 

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Report: Kansas Hospital Lays off Employees Due to ObamaCare

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In a report that aired on Topeka, KS ABC affiliate KTKA on Tuesday, Newman Regional Hospital in Emporia, KS is scaling back some services as a means of countering the "negative financial impacts of the Affordable Care Act."

According to KTKA, the cuts at the hospital are due to a projected $3.5 million loss this year. These cuts will result in 10 full-time employees and five part-time employees being laid off permanently and are expected to save the hospital $1 million annually.
“It’s looking into the future," Newman Regional CEO Bob Wright said to KTKA. “Knowing that we need to make a profit, having the advantage of critical access getting us most of the way there but having really to do our part as good stewards of our resources to make sure that we’re profitable.”
(h/t RNC Research)
 

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[h=1]White House Claims 7.1 Million Obamacare Enrollments, but How Many Previously Uninsured Have Paid?[/h]by John Sexton 1 Apr 2014 421post a comment
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[h=2]The President held a celebration today at the White House to announce that 7.1 million people had signed up for insurance under Obamacare. As Jonathan Strong points out, it was a deeply partisan speech in which the President decried the partisanship of his opponents.[/h]The real problem with Obama's announcement wasn't the tone; it was the false premise. Most of the people who he touted today had insurance before Obamacare came along. In fact, we've had two surveys in recent weeks. The McKinsey survey found that just 27 percent of sign ups were previously uninsured. Yesterday the LA Times revealed details from an unpublished RAND corp. survey which found that "about one-third" of all sign-ups were previously uninsured.
If we assume, best case, that 33 percent of the 7.1 million were previously uninsured, that works out to to about 2.3 million people. But as we all know by now, not everyone who signs up actually pays. The McKinsey survey found that previously uninsured people were far less likely to pay. In fact, just 53 percent followed through. To be generous, let's assume they bring this up to 80 percent. That means the total number of enrolled but previously uninsured people will be about 1.85 million.
That's a lot of newly insured people but it's only a tiny fraction of the 7.1 million announced today or the 45 million uninsured the administration said Obamacare was supposed to address. We've spent four years and hundreds of millions of dollars on websites and media outreach to pick up fewer than 2 million enrollees. And that's not to mention that the vast majority are receiving a government subsidy to offset the cost.
One might look at all of this and conclude we're not getting a lot of bang for our buck. In fact, about 80 percent of the total new enrollment of the previously uninsured (including Medicaid and young adults on parent's plans) could have been accomplished without the exchanges, without knocking 5 million people off their policies, without making people lose doctors, hospitals, etc.
Insurance industry expert Bob Laszewski sees a big letdown coming when people gradually learn about the real Obamacare numbers.
By celebrating seven million enrollments, the administration has set some pretty high expectations: That Obamacare is making a huge dent in the number of those who were uninsured.

But it would appear that is not the case and they will have to manage a steady flow of hard data that will undermine today's celebration––in an election-year.
Eventually the administration is going to pay a price for this ongoing dishonesty.
 

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That last article hits it on the head. "Eventually the administration is going to pay a price for this ongoing dishonesty."


The numbers they are releasing will be verified in time and probably not going to hold up. Kind of like a seventh inning stretch when your team has the lead. In this case the lame stream media is on board but those numbers will be scrutinzed severely. Hard data please, is that not part of what transparency is? This celebration may rank up there with the video tape nobody ever saw when all is said and done. They do autopsies even though someone is dead, same goes for Obamacare.
 

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