Which sport do you think is the most and least affected by momentum?

[TomGshotput]

Momentum = Mass * Velocity

Laws of physics say it most certainly exist

If someone wants to use a different definition to describe what is going on in a sports game they are most likely making up complete bullshit. If anyone disagrees, they can go ahead and use their ideas to earn lots of money on in-game wagering. But if they haven't earned lots of money, than it's clear they are just talking out of their ass

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Find an example of it. Read studies that have been done on it. Prove shit through examples and past experiences..... I have

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

People don't like mystery. We like to be able to describe what we are seeing....therefore we call it momentum when really it is far more complex. Many factors contribute. But momentum is not one.

Like I said above, the facts and studies and research has shown momentum to not have any baring on future outcomes in game, team wise or individually. You are not more likely to make a freethrow because you made 8 in a row. Or win a game because you won 8 in a row. That's what people tend to perceive but it's not true.

Facts say the opposite actually happens. That really when a team gets hot.....the other teams starts to come back. There is no evidence that there is momentum. Now if you want to believe in something that is a myth and has no factual background at all then be my guest. All I am suggesting to you guys is to think outside the box. What everyone thinks you should already know to fade it, come on your sports bettors.

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Yall know im all about this theory shit. This is my world grandma. But real talk this evidence and studies I am talking wasn't done by me. Props to Toby for dropping knowledge.

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

least: FOOTBALL because fewer games

Most: Tennis . "Season " is 11 months.

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Orioles game today. ... 7-0 that looked like a lot of momentum up a touchdown and extra point in baseball.


Oh what it's 7-7 now? Literally the next inning they came back

So much for momentum

 

[Mr_Mark]

Lol. Momentum. .... does anyone even actually know what "momentum" even is? Or is it just some mythical thing that just takes over games?

Momentum in sports is the most overrated term. Biggest myth. Doesn't exist in sports.

I can tell by that comment you have never played sports..... or at least have never been good at any

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

I can tell by that comment you have never played sports..... or at least have never been good at any

Won a state ring in basketball in high school. Good at soccer. So shit that thought down

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Can make 80 out of 100 free throws on any day of the week. And I wasn't more likely to make the 10th because I made 9 in a row. Don't work like that. There's no momentum in sports. Still waiting for someone to give me a sports example of momentum. I have already given a handful of reasons why there isn't.

 

[Mr_Mark]

If that was true then you know what its like to have "off" times when you can make a shot, free throw or even a lay up. Nothing goes in..
And you would know what its like when you cant miss. No matter what you throw up, you are making it.
If you have played then I know you have experienced this. Along with it almost being contagious, when no one on your team can make a shot (or miss a shot)
Its one thing to see it or watch it on TV. Its another to experience it and feel it. In my eyes that is momentum

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

I know exactly what you're talking about. Of course. But that is what happens over the course of competition. Baseball and basketball are games of percentages. There are different factors such as a good defender that doesn't let you get your shot off how you like to or doesn't give you the room you usually need to get off that shot. That's why I gave the freethrow example because that is the only example in basketball where you can fairly judge "momentum" and it is not a factor.

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

When you get that " I cant miss feeling" thats confidence to me. And a lack of confidence when your shot isn't falling...tennis racket isn't hitting the ball well.

You know how i know that is confidence? Because that is the point where everyone says momentum lol. But its confidence and it gives them a boost of confidence and they start playing better. Like the old saying. ....just see the ball go through the net and you will be fine.

 

[Mr_Mark]

could those be 2 different things? confidence is the feeling, momentum is the result? if the ball is constantly going in (or not going in) that determines your confidence or lack of it

 

[Mr_Mark]

although we both know there are those guys whose confidence is always at all time high no matter what they play like lol

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Lol yeah like j.r. smith. Come off the bench and bang the most insane 3s.

One of the cases a experiment made in favor of that there was momentum in sports had to do with the Boston Celtics and Vinnie "Microwave" Johnson. They called him the "Microwave" because he could get "hot in a hurry." His teammates all swore that when he made his first shot...look out because he will be deadly all game...

So the study looked at an NBA finals game where Vinnie made 7 shots in a row off the bench. But the data was actually incorrect. On his 4th attempt...the shot actually missed and was tipped in by a teammate. It was really found that Vinnie was not as streaky as everyone perceived him to be and other players went on just as long streaks as he did. That IMO is the result of being as good as you are. Your averages will always pan out. Ray Allen went 7-7 for 3 in the nba finals vs the Lakers. The greatest 3point shooter and basketball form possibly ever. Guess what he went the next game from 3? 0-8

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Momentum believers...try explaining the orioles/ bluejays game so I can get a good laugh. Haha

 

[TomGshotput]

If that was true then you know what its like to have "off" times when you can make a shot, free throw or even a lay up. Nothing goes in..
And you would know what its like when you cant miss. No matter what you throw up, you are making it.
If you have played then I know you have experienced this. Along with it almost being contagious, when no one on your team can make a shot (or miss a shot)
Its one thing to see it or watch it on TV. Its another to experience it and feel it. In my eyes that is momentum

How much do you earn per year on in-game wagering taking advantage of this information that you have?

 

[RenoChazz]

How much do you earn per year on in-game wagering taking advantage of this information that you have?

Good point. The only sports that I've noticed momentum in is probably hockey and tennis. In tennis there's probably no way to make money because its like hindsight. In hockey though the score could be 0-0 and you have a feel who's got it, but that might even get factored into the live line.

 

[TomGshotput]

Good point. The only sports that I've noticed momentum in is probably hockey and tennis. In tennis there's probably no way to make money because its like hindsight.

If it can only be seen after it has happened, it is something far different than what is being discussed here. More likely it's just talent and ability

In hockey though the score could be 0-0 and you have a feel who's got it, but that might even get factored into the live line.

What if the score is 1-0, 2-0, or 2-1? In those cases the odds are usually based on the score and the strength of the teams (closing game odds)? In those cases anyone who believes momentum exists should be earning a lot of money every year by taking advantage of the information they have

 

[RenoChazz]

Here's an example of momentum in Hockey. I've seen a team struggling, then player makes a big hit, or puts his health at risk to block a shot, and all of sudden it's like the rest of the team wakes up and gets a dose of adrenaline.