JJ might be the only one who kisses your ass and stabs you in the back at the same time....
Here's a recent classic of his:
"Mw and RX have covered up for books that are strapped and books that have fallen. Very sad just throw a forum owner a few dimes and he becomes dumb.
Is this legal??? Is this criminal???"
Here's a recent classic of his:
"Mw and RX have covered up for books that are strapped and books that have fallen. Very sad just throw a forum owner a few dimes and he becomes dumb.
Is this legal??? Is this criminal???"
Pat,
No problem, it’s just funny to see you reach into the archives and pull something into the argument that has nothing to do with the current discussion.
It's like we are talking about who Kisses Shrink's ass the most and you say "Well Buzzsaw had dinner with Mickey!".... Huh?! ... I mean I don't get the correlation.
I for one miss your bible length critical critiques of the Rx and Shrink. And I think I was pretty accurate in saying we have seen the last of them.
No problem, it’s just funny to see you reach into the archives and pull something into the argument that has nothing to do with the current discussion.
It's like we are talking about who Kisses Shrink's ass the most and you say "Well Buzzsaw had dinner with Mickey!".... Huh?! ... I mean I don't get the correlation.
I for one miss your bible length critical critiques of the Rx and Shrink. And I think I was pretty accurate in saying we have seen the last of them.
As long as I work here absolutely you have seen the last of the "bible length critiques". I talk to Shrink every day on the phone, why would I start an argument out here with him? So you can see it Buzz? LOL. I can't believe how silly your argument is. It's called respecting the people you work with. If they disagree with me they let me know and we talk about. If I disagree I go to them as well. You'd be happy if we fought out here huh? LOL. Don't take it personal but I am not interested in proving anything to you Buzz. Within days of taking this job it was obvious you took offense at it for some strange reason. I'll treat you the way you treat me, fair enough? When you respected me I returned the favor.
As far as digging through the archives? They posted all about it just last week! Everyone saw it, I'll get the link so you can see how current it is. Maybe you have forgotten about it? I don't dig through old stuff, in fact not sure if I have ever used the search button here. I let others dig for my stuff. I say what I think and move on. You seem to like to throw things around but pucker up a little bit when anyone suggests anything about you. Sorry Buzz but I take pride in what I do here as well. I spend a lot of hours a week helping posters resolve issues. LOTS OF HOURS. Much of it off the forums and most the time using my own phone at my own expense. Shrink and the RX pays out big dollars to make this all happen and General and others go the extra mile as well. Before I got here I ran a small forum again at my own expense trying to do what I can do. Along the way I have given out two years worth of picks here without having a losing season yet (monitored by the RecordKeeper here not me) but never once tried to sell anyone a pick. How about you? You sell picks to squares don't you? Some sort of tout service on the side? You charge books to put a link on your site right? You also get a % of what the players lose? Is that right? Just asking because I am not positive. If all this is true you certainly have no reason to call others out for having the nerve to not argue with their boss out on the forum so you can see it. You go other places and they kick your teeth in yet we try and treat you with respect here to no avail. One thing after another. We can improve but we are damned proud of what we are trying to do here. The only thing I have ever done to you is work here, LOL. Maybe I should have asked you before I picked my first check up, seems it bothers you for some reason.
[This message was edited by Patrick McIrish on July 08, 2003 at 08:29 PM.]
As far as digging through the archives? They posted all about it just last week! Everyone saw it, I'll get the link so you can see how current it is. Maybe you have forgotten about it? I don't dig through old stuff, in fact not sure if I have ever used the search button here. I let others dig for my stuff. I say what I think and move on. You seem to like to throw things around but pucker up a little bit when anyone suggests anything about you. Sorry Buzz but I take pride in what I do here as well. I spend a lot of hours a week helping posters resolve issues. LOTS OF HOURS. Much of it off the forums and most the time using my own phone at my own expense. Shrink and the RX pays out big dollars to make this all happen and General and others go the extra mile as well. Before I got here I ran a small forum again at my own expense trying to do what I can do. Along the way I have given out two years worth of picks here without having a losing season yet (monitored by the RecordKeeper here not me) but never once tried to sell anyone a pick. How about you? You sell picks to squares don't you? Some sort of tout service on the side? You charge books to put a link on your site right? You also get a % of what the players lose? Is that right? Just asking because I am not positive. If all this is true you certainly have no reason to call others out for having the nerve to not argue with their boss out on the forum so you can see it. You go other places and they kick your teeth in yet we try and treat you with respect here to no avail. One thing after another. We can improve but we are damned proud of what we are trying to do here. The only thing I have ever done to you is work here, LOL. Maybe I should have asked you before I picked my first check up, seems it bothers you for some reason.
[This message was edited by Patrick McIrish on July 08, 2003 at 08:29 PM.]
Pat,
Phew! Where do I start? So much new info and if I recall we were talking about who kisses the Shrink's ass
Yes, I would like to see your opinions on the Rx...but as you said, the paycheck killed that. And we always agree and backed each other up. See what money has done to you?
Pat my friend you have gotten some real bad information. Where did you get that rubbish anyway? You are pulling what we use to complain together about.
Sell picks?? (I should though and I'm going to kick your ass again this year in college foots
) If that wasn’t funny enough you said.. Getting my teeth kicked in on other forums? - Are you freaking delusional Pat? I had the same opinion as Shrink on CRIS and went toe-to-toe with all comers. If you don't want me to post here just ban me but don't act like your doing me a favor. I'll still be here long after you're gone. (I said that to the last two mods that threatened to ban me too...sounds cool doesn't it?
)
Man Pat that was nothing! You should have seen me and the Shrink go at it over the Dunes, Costa Rica (way before it was popular to bash CR - it was me against the world...go ahead and ask Shrink...how do you think I got that "viva Costa Rica" under my handle?), And how about me and Peep against NAB and the entire MW world? Not that was a real fire fight. The CRIS threads were childs play...teeth kicked in.. LMAO That's really silly of you to say.
The business dealings of SBR are hardly any of your business (but you know that
). But I have explained them in detail here so check the archives for all the juicy details.
You work hard and do a good job here. But why do you stoop to make your argument with all that silly rubbish. Personally I think SBR does a good job recommending the best books. Unlike here, there are books on the list that are there for free. I don't care if they buy a silly link or not. Pat your a smart guy, if money was my only motivation I could really take advatage of the Sportsbook Review name and crank out some green. I considered adding a forum years ago(until I saw what the Shrink goes through
). But that would be too much like work.
Pat you need to step back and see what you just did imo. You went on the attack because a poster mentioned your name in a thread called Who kisses Shrinks Ass Most. Don't you see that? As your friend I think you should at least consider how you elevated this.
Phew! Where do I start? So much new info and if I recall we were talking about who kisses the Shrink's ass
Yes, I would like to see your opinions on the Rx...but as you said, the paycheck killed that. And we always agree and backed each other up. See what money has done to you?
Pat my friend you have gotten some real bad information. Where did you get that rubbish anyway? You are pulling what we use to complain together about.
Sell picks?? (I should though and I'm going to kick your ass again this year in college foots
Man Pat that was nothing! You should have seen me and the Shrink go at it over the Dunes, Costa Rica (way before it was popular to bash CR - it was me against the world...go ahead and ask Shrink...how do you think I got that "viva Costa Rica" under my handle?), And how about me and Peep against NAB and the entire MW world? Not that was a real fire fight. The CRIS threads were childs play...teeth kicked in.. LMAO That's really silly of you to say.
The business dealings of SBR are hardly any of your business (but you know that
You work hard and do a good job here. But why do you stoop to make your argument with all that silly rubbish. Personally I think SBR does a good job recommending the best books. Unlike here, there are books on the list that are there for free. I don't care if they buy a silly link or not. Pat your a smart guy, if money was my only motivation I could really take advatage of the Sportsbook Review name and crank out some green. I considered adding a forum years ago(until I saw what the Shrink goes through
Pat you need to step back and see what you just did imo. You went on the attack because a poster mentioned your name in a thread called Who kisses Shrinks Ass Most. Don't you see that? As your friend I think you should at least consider how you elevated this.
Buzz - I have NEVER threatened to ban you or has any talk of it even been mentioned. Wouldn't think of it. Glad you are here just as long as you understand the gloves are coming off now. Some people you can't be nice to. Since I took this job there are about 4 or 5 people who seem very upset about it, you being one of them. BEFORE I ever made one call I had sold out according to you, had you at least waited until I made one decision to call me out it would have been more convincing. Never disliked me before and probably never will again if I quit this job, until I do that though I am here to be your tackling dummy I suppose? What's next not liking someone for the color of their skin, what their last name is, what religion they are or how much money they have. Not liking someone for a job they are doing is just as bad as anything else. At least to me it is. So when you run over here to badmouth me we will engage in some two way conversation sir, I promise you that. I don't think your perfect either. Like always we are talking now because YOU brought me up immediately in this thread like you always do. Over and over again. So knock off the innocence game, I haven't elevated anything towards you. Just tired of the attitude you take towards us here and have come to realize it is here to stay. It's your way in dealing with us. You say the way you run SBR is no business of mine but you haven't let up on my business yet. I am bought off now because I won't act the way you want me to act? If you can't see the difference between just being a poster and being someone employed here trying to make a difference I can't help you. I try and do things right, getting in a pissing match with other RX employees would look stupid wouldn't it just to show you I'm not a kiss ass. We have each other to make asses of ourselves with.
For the record your stance on CRIS is a total joke! You had them in the doghouse and after going to dinner with the owner now they are okay? LOL! Man tell me you are kidding. You roll over here twice a day to run that gator of yours yet can face me with the fact you changed your mind over dinner? Maybe you should go to dinner with the player who lost his damn money Buzz. The hypocrisy in this case is just unbelievable. You are here to help the players but no one else is? I am here taking a check while you are out busting your ass looking over the watchdog sites huh? If so things are worse than I feared. CARIB came along and you hardly even flinched. Another case I disagreed with you on or at least until we could have got more information. Lot of fun this game of playing like a wiseass and blurting out whatever I feel like saying. If you had something to say to me that's fine but be a man about it. Over and over about being bought off and sold out, I don't appreciate it and it was not necessary. A month ago I considered us friends but have had enough of your holier than thou attitude towards what you do and what everyone else does. If this site is dirty for accepting advertising money than you are right in the middle of it. Your snout is right in the trough with everyone else. Still can't believe you get paid based on how much the players lose who go through your site? Yeah you are some friend to the players. STIFFEDBYCRIS saw what a stand up guy you are in this, I am seeing it more and more everyday.
Here's the bottom line Buzz and then you can go run to Ken if you want. We are running a business and it is very difficult at times to balance the rights of our advertisers and the rights of our posters. It's hard and we do all we can to get it right but we don't hide our situation. It leaves us to a lot of 2nd guessing from guys like you with their own site but we want to be upfront about it. You however on the other hand post SPORTSBOOK REVIEW DOES NOT ACCEPT SPORTSBOOK ADVERTISING!!! You are trying to act like your hand is not in their pocket? Come on Buzz we both know better than that! Yet you want to roll over here and question us or give half the story or an issue trying to make us look like idiots. The fact you don't accept money from sportbooks is a baldfaced lie sir. No other way to say it. I still like you and your site but when you point at others four more fingers are pointing back at yourself. As a friend I ask you to reevaluate your position on the theft of a players money. At least take the player out to the same restaurant you ate at with the owner, after all he's the one who picked up the tab. 'Nuff said.
Don't forget to tip your waitresses.....
For the record your stance on CRIS is a total joke! You had them in the doghouse and after going to dinner with the owner now they are okay? LOL! Man tell me you are kidding. You roll over here twice a day to run that gator of yours yet can face me with the fact you changed your mind over dinner? Maybe you should go to dinner with the player who lost his damn money Buzz. The hypocrisy in this case is just unbelievable. You are here to help the players but no one else is? I am here taking a check while you are out busting your ass looking over the watchdog sites huh? If so things are worse than I feared. CARIB came along and you hardly even flinched. Another case I disagreed with you on or at least until we could have got more information. Lot of fun this game of playing like a wiseass and blurting out whatever I feel like saying. If you had something to say to me that's fine but be a man about it. Over and over about being bought off and sold out, I don't appreciate it and it was not necessary. A month ago I considered us friends but have had enough of your holier than thou attitude towards what you do and what everyone else does. If this site is dirty for accepting advertising money than you are right in the middle of it. Your snout is right in the trough with everyone else. Still can't believe you get paid based on how much the players lose who go through your site? Yeah you are some friend to the players. STIFFEDBYCRIS saw what a stand up guy you are in this, I am seeing it more and more everyday.
Here's the bottom line Buzz and then you can go run to Ken if you want. We are running a business and it is very difficult at times to balance the rights of our advertisers and the rights of our posters. It's hard and we do all we can to get it right but we don't hide our situation. It leaves us to a lot of 2nd guessing from guys like you with their own site but we want to be upfront about it. You however on the other hand post SPORTSBOOK REVIEW DOES NOT ACCEPT SPORTSBOOK ADVERTISING!!! You are trying to act like your hand is not in their pocket? Come on Buzz we both know better than that! Yet you want to roll over here and question us or give half the story or an issue trying to make us look like idiots. The fact you don't accept money from sportbooks is a baldfaced lie sir. No other way to say it. I still like you and your site but when you point at others four more fingers are pointing back at yourself. As a friend I ask you to reevaluate your position on the theft of a players money. At least take the player out to the same restaurant you ate at with the owner, after all he's the one who picked up the tab. 'Nuff said.
Don't forget to tip your waitresses.....
Buzz - here's something Peep mentioned about SBR that I think he is right on the money about. You didn't seem anxious to defend it so let me give you another chance. As awful as we are over here I am sure none of this is true.
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SBR has changed radically since he started collecting money from books on his site.
As far as I know, he now makes money there by
1. Charging for URL links.
2. Referal fees for click throughs.
3. Putting players that signup through his site on a sheet.
Have I missed any ways you are funded by sportsbooks buddy?
The hypocrisy of your statement on your homepage "Sportsbook Review does not accept sportsbook advertising" stinks. Makes you a liar if ANY of the top three ways of making money are true.
Would you agree SBR?
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Hope you don't mind me asking Buzz. You have a lot of questions for me so wondered what you thought of this? Anyway as I said I enjoy your site, just want to get it straight on what kind of site you are running.....
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SBR has changed radically since he started collecting money from books on his site.
As far as I know, he now makes money there by
1. Charging for URL links.
2. Referal fees for click throughs.
3. Putting players that signup through his site on a sheet.
Have I missed any ways you are funded by sportsbooks buddy?
The hypocrisy of your statement on your homepage "Sportsbook Review does not accept sportsbook advertising" stinks. Makes you a liar if ANY of the top three ways of making money are true.
Would you agree SBR?
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Hope you don't mind me asking Buzz. You have a lot of questions for me so wondered what you thought of this? Anyway as I said I enjoy your site, just want to get it straight on what kind of site you are running.....
Pat,
I really didn't think I had been that tough on you. Your tirade shows you took TOO much personal. Now digging and scratching to come up with anything to try to discredit me; I sorry but I find that funny. The selling picks didn’t work (that was hilarious though), the getting bashed at other sites didn’t work and now your reaching with this holier than thou stuff.
Take a break Pat. You're a moderator here for God's sake. Did you think no one would throw a little shot at you once in a while?
Btw, the No Advertising statement is much like you see Money Back Guarantee. No SBR has zero advertising contracts and that’s what it means. Every book on the list is chosen. Do you see the difference? Some agree to pay for links and some pay for links with referral deals if you want to dissect that and say SBR takes advertising just like the Rx that’s beautiful and fine with me. I could care less. As far as helping players, SBR has documented helping 126 players in the last 3 years get their money with 2 being worked on now. 126 Pat! At least as many as this site so why you go there I don’t know...it’s more reaching I guess. You’re reaching for anything you can and it's not a pretty side of you.
The thread was Who kisses Shrinks Ass remember? Now you have introduces aLLLLL these silly things. You should of stayed on point.
Another thing, CRIS didn’t get back on the list because of a dinner bozo, they got back after they agreed to let me write the rules for their program going forward. That’s why you have not heard of any more stiffedbycris's since have you? Well, have you?????
I've asked you twice now why you don't blast the SHRINK on CRIS. We have the same opinion. I guess you forgot
. Next time you blast me on CRIS you should just say "You and Shrink...".
Bottom line Pat is I'm just a poster, you're a mod. You need to learn there is a difference. You need thick skin to be a mod.
In closing, you can consider me whatever you like. But I think you're a good guy who is over reacting and maybe under a little stress these days. I'm surprised you would make up things (selling picks, teeth kicked, advertising) to bolster your argument, it seems a little classless. Maybe I've hit a nerve that has thrown you out of character I really don't know. Get some sleep; you can always hate me later.
Ahhhh...remember when we were a team cracking on the Shrink??? I miss those days ..
I really didn't think I had been that tough on you. Your tirade shows you took TOO much personal. Now digging and scratching to come up with anything to try to discredit me; I sorry but I find that funny. The selling picks didn’t work (that was hilarious though), the getting bashed at other sites didn’t work and now your reaching with this holier than thou stuff.
Take a break Pat. You're a moderator here for God's sake. Did you think no one would throw a little shot at you once in a while?
Btw, the No Advertising statement is much like you see Money Back Guarantee. No SBR has zero advertising contracts and that’s what it means. Every book on the list is chosen. Do you see the difference? Some agree to pay for links and some pay for links with referral deals if you want to dissect that and say SBR takes advertising just like the Rx that’s beautiful and fine with me. I could care less. As far as helping players, SBR has documented helping 126 players in the last 3 years get their money with 2 being worked on now. 126 Pat! At least as many as this site so why you go there I don’t know...it’s more reaching I guess. You’re reaching for anything you can and it's not a pretty side of you.
The thread was Who kisses Shrinks Ass remember? Now you have introduces aLLLLL these silly things. You should of stayed on point.
Another thing, CRIS didn’t get back on the list because of a dinner bozo, they got back after they agreed to let me write the rules for their program going forward. That’s why you have not heard of any more stiffedbycris's since have you? Well, have you?????
I've asked you twice now why you don't blast the SHRINK on CRIS. We have the same opinion. I guess you forgot
Bottom line Pat is I'm just a poster, you're a mod. You need to learn there is a difference. You need thick skin to be a mod.
In closing, you can consider me whatever you like. But I think you're a good guy who is over reacting and maybe under a little stress these days. I'm surprised you would make up things (selling picks, teeth kicked, advertising) to bolster your argument, it seems a little classless. Maybe I've hit a nerve that has thrown you out of character I really don't know. Get some sleep; you can always hate me later.
Ahhhh...remember when we were a team cracking on the Shrink??? I miss those days ..
Pat,
I didn't see that. Was that on Peeps site? Whats that URL? hehehe!!
This is also posted on SBR's most popular page..(you might of missed it)
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> *As of 6/27/02 Sportsbooks selected to be on the Sportsbook Review Full Recommended List may place a link to their web site for a small fee. However, their decision to add a link or not has no bearing on their present or future position on the list. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So keep digging Pat..hmm wasn't the topic Who Kisses Shrinks Ass? You sure are trying I'll give you credit there
[This message was edited by Buzzsaw on July 09, 2003 at 01:08 AM.]
I didn't see that. Was that on Peeps site? Whats that URL? hehehe!!
This is also posted on SBR's most popular page..(you might of missed it)
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> *As of 6/27/02 Sportsbooks selected to be on the Sportsbook Review Full Recommended List may place a link to their web site for a small fee. However, their decision to add a link or not has no bearing on their present or future position on the list. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So keep digging Pat..hmm wasn't the topic Who Kisses Shrinks Ass? You sure are trying I'll give you credit there
[This message was edited by Buzzsaw on July 09, 2003 at 01:08 AM.]
Buzz - not overreacting at all sir. LOL. Just haven't agreed with the way you do things here and it's come to me this is going to be long term. At least as long as I am here. It's not like a sell out or ass kisser comment will be a rare occurrence but that is going to be your calling card while I am here. I have tried to reason with you time and time again. Maybe it's a joke to you but others look up to your work Buzz. I ask them PLEASE come to me and tell me if you have a concern and we can address it. They see a guy like you that runs SBR making these same accussations then they start believing it as well. Maybe that's the plan. To me there is no call for it. Maybe if I had never respected you or what you did I could swallow this a little easier. As far as being a mod that is no reaon not to treat anyone with respect. Because we work here you can come over here and piss all over our forums and insult us? Treat people the way you want to be treated, is that really too much to ask? That's my rule anyway....
Since your getting upset I won't probe any further but in the CRIS deal are you telling me you re-writing the new rules is what is saving the next guy from getting stiffed? LMAO! You can't be serious Buzz. The pressure exerted by the forums (and more importantly) the players themselves will have more a bearing on it than what you two did over surf and turf. I can see why you are using it as your justification to okay what CRIS did but your new rule means squat. Like all rules including the whole loyalty program before this they all mean nothing if a book wants to stiff someone. The time to speak up was THEN, not meekly writing a "new" rule over a dinner with the owner as the player got hung out to dry. Just my opinion.
Lastly you keep bringing Shrink up, I don't know or care your relationship with him Buzz. He and I disagree all the time but we don't run out here and call each other sell-outs like you like to do. In fact that is why you are so upset with me. You want me to act like an ass to him out here and the others so it will show you I didn't sell out. Oh brother. That's 8th grade stuff Buzz, you going to call me chicken next? Come on man knock off the crap, you know better than that. Nothing I want is unreasonable, just be decent when you come by. If not don't expect it in return. I am certain I have never made a bad comment about you here until you enter a thread and bring up what I am doing wrong. So please knock off the hurt poster routine. Shrink and I talk as men like me and you used to do until I took this job. Anyway I really don't want to make this worse than it is. None of this is no big deal to me, just giving you some feedback for a change. If you state things not true about me or the RX I am going to answer your concerns. At least as long as I am here. Your probably right you will be here longer than I will but we should be honest with each other on how it will be until then. Your not the only site around that thinks they do a good job Buzz. I like what we are doing and what direction we are headed. Sorry if that offends you,. In closing here's the thread where they addressed you across the street. There are some highly respected posters in this thread Buzz and most are not on your side. I won't call you a sell out but I wll say we disagree on CRIS and leave it at that. Just showing you this as I didn't dig this up in the archives, it was very recent Buzz. Thanks for coming by, tell the girl at the counter to give you the free buffet.
http://www.majorwager.com/fusetalk/messageview.cfm?catid=22&threadid=61029&STARTPAGE=1
Since your getting upset I won't probe any further but in the CRIS deal are you telling me you re-writing the new rules is what is saving the next guy from getting stiffed? LMAO! You can't be serious Buzz. The pressure exerted by the forums (and more importantly) the players themselves will have more a bearing on it than what you two did over surf and turf. I can see why you are using it as your justification to okay what CRIS did but your new rule means squat. Like all rules including the whole loyalty program before this they all mean nothing if a book wants to stiff someone. The time to speak up was THEN, not meekly writing a "new" rule over a dinner with the owner as the player got hung out to dry. Just my opinion.
Lastly you keep bringing Shrink up, I don't know or care your relationship with him Buzz. He and I disagree all the time but we don't run out here and call each other sell-outs like you like to do. In fact that is why you are so upset with me. You want me to act like an ass to him out here and the others so it will show you I didn't sell out. Oh brother. That's 8th grade stuff Buzz, you going to call me chicken next? Come on man knock off the crap, you know better than that. Nothing I want is unreasonable, just be decent when you come by. If not don't expect it in return. I am certain I have never made a bad comment about you here until you enter a thread and bring up what I am doing wrong. So please knock off the hurt poster routine. Shrink and I talk as men like me and you used to do until I took this job. Anyway I really don't want to make this worse than it is. None of this is no big deal to me, just giving you some feedback for a change. If you state things not true about me or the RX I am going to answer your concerns. At least as long as I am here. Your probably right you will be here longer than I will but we should be honest with each other on how it will be until then. Your not the only site around that thinks they do a good job Buzz. I like what we are doing and what direction we are headed. Sorry if that offends you,. In closing here's the thread where they addressed you across the street. There are some highly respected posters in this thread Buzz and most are not on your side. I won't call you a sell out but I wll say we disagree on CRIS and leave it at that. Just showing you this as I didn't dig this up in the archives, it was very recent Buzz. Thanks for coming by, tell the girl at the counter to give you the free buffet.
http://www.majorwager.com/fusetalk/messageview.cfm?catid=22&threadid=61029&STARTPAGE=1
Pat,
You really think I was too hard on you? OK, well I'll weigh what I say in the future. It wasn't personal and I love Shrink but I shoot straight at him and he has never complained. MW too. But I'll try to be more sensitive and I'm not being sarcastic.
So your opinion on CRIS is the gospel? Wow! I guess I should have checked with you. LOL I made a decision on CRIS and did the best I could. I happen to agree with Shrink on CRIS and disagree with you....So what?? Life goes on.
Pat, I wish I had seen that thread at MW earlier. You need to understand something although I think you might already. There is a lot of animosity between site owners.(Nooo really??
) Ever notice that? LOL I stay above that and do my best and always have. SBR has been incredibly successful using the formula I tried to get Ken & Russ to adopt and they know it. Been preaching it here for years: ONLY TAKE THE BEST SPORTSBOOKS, no others. Of course they are going to take shots just like you tried. It’s the ole 'Push him down and we will look taller' theory.
I'm not worried if you or Russ find some little something you don't like about SBR. I want SBR to present the BEST Sportsbooks and expose the bad ones. That’s all.
As long as I can accomplish those two goals then the critics can circle-jerk all day long figuring out how it's actually done.
Man Pat you got me writing as long as you! I hope you got all that off your chest now and feel better. Loosen up bro, this is still just a forum.
You really think I was too hard on you? OK, well I'll weigh what I say in the future. It wasn't personal and I love Shrink but I shoot straight at him and he has never complained. MW too. But I'll try to be more sensitive and I'm not being sarcastic.
So your opinion on CRIS is the gospel? Wow! I guess I should have checked with you. LOL I made a decision on CRIS and did the best I could. I happen to agree with Shrink on CRIS and disagree with you....So what?? Life goes on.
Pat, I wish I had seen that thread at MW earlier. You need to understand something although I think you might already. There is a lot of animosity between site owners.(Nooo really??
I'm not worried if you or Russ find some little something you don't like about SBR. I want SBR to present the BEST Sportsbooks and expose the bad ones. That’s all.
As long as I can accomplish those two goals then the critics can circle-jerk all day long figuring out how it's actually done.
Man Pat you got me writing as long as you! I hope you got all that off your chest now and feel better. Loosen up bro, this is still just a forum.
