Yeah, I had a piece of that St.Francis at +59....couldn't see anyone leaving the starters in that long to cover that big a number....I had some team this year in the women's ncaa final...can't remember the teams but I took 42 points, my dog barked, was down by 3 at the half and only lost by 18....value is where you find it, doesn't matter what the sport is, but is there some reasoning to the pick....I mean take a look at Winkyduck's post about the +600 dog he hit in womens tennis...the two players played four times before and split 2-2.....why +600???......there is value out there if one looks for it.