T sometimes is best to sit back and listen which i usually do but you are dead wrong and here are few reasons why i think it could work.......... There are so many ways this could work that one has to be disconnected to think it could not.. we are talking 3 extra games correct? Scratch one for the bowl game they already play in after about a month off ( top tier teams ) so know we are talking 2 extra games correct? 2 weeks after championship week we play round 1, 2 weeks later, semis, and 2 weeks later the championship game. So we are talking 2 extra games in a 6 week span.. if that is to much then eliminate a non conference game from everyones schedule and we are talking about one extra game...
As you said before, nothing personal here but your reasoning is flawed imo and dead wrong .. it could and will work if wanted. big "if"
Bucks, they're giving them 2 weeks between games? I haven't looked at the schedule, but frankly, doesn't matter. I played a long time ago, but if I was playing on a team that made the playoffs, and I was good, as in, "You don't want me to walk," I'd be looking for money. There was half a dozen articles floating around today about student athletes going after bucks. Hell, some conference has filed with the NCAA to allow them to pay the players. You think for one minute that a football player that has to play 16 games isn't gonna be looking for some cash, I'm sorry, you don't have a clue. Think about it.....I'm NFL grade, and now I have to play 3 extra games in college. Shit, Show Me The Money!
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I couldn't agree more.....a minimum of (8); This will require three play-off football games to arrive at a National Champion.....
The biggest opposition will come from the Bowl Committees. Couldn't you just hear the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Gator. Outback, Cotton, and even the Peach and Meinecke-Car-Car bowl committees scream to high-Heaven. Good luck
The biggest opposition will come from the Bowl Committees. Couldn't you just hear the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Gator. Outback, Cotton, and even the Peach and Meinecke-Car-Car bowl committees scream to high-Heaven. Good luck
Major college football isn't like it was 20 years ago. Players have better conditioning coaches who know how to get them in the best shape and keep them there longer. College also isn't like the NFL. The NFL plays every week with a bye week thrown in somewhere. But basically a playoff team plays straight through a 19 game schedule without a long break. With college they'll play a 13 game schedule at most and if they don't start the quarterfinals until the new year, we're talking about a 3 week break between games. Plenty of time to game plan, heal up and get a second wind..
Come on GS, you're better than that. When the season was over, I got to feeling better by May, and that of course includes spring practice. I disagree with your comment about conditioning coaches. I took it upon myself, being a small guy, to condition myself. You're as good as you make your body to be, you don't believe that, I have the phone #'s of a lot of NFL players that will be glad to tell ya the same. I'm done with this thread, I wish everyone on the RX the best, I always have.
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College players will get shown the door before the money unless we are talking about some meaningless stipend. If I were a HC and some player took that attitude with me, he would be walking out of my office with his ass wrapped around his shoulders. No punk 21 year old kid who would probably be in prison would be telling me how much he wants or he won't play.
As far as an 8 team playoff is conserned, it will not happen for at least two more seasons. They will play this way until 2017. At that time, they will decide if they want an extra four teams on the playoffs or not. My guess is knowing the NCAA as I do, the answer will be no. It is not up for us to decide. It is up to people who frankly could care less about us to decide. What are you going to do? Stop watching the games? I sincerely doubt it. It also would destroy the 4 games that are out of the rotation in any given season. If the #1 and #2 team in the SEC both go to an 8 team post season, and the Sugar Bowl is not one of the two sights that get's a semi-final game, that means that the Sugar Bowl is stuck with the #3 SEC team. The Bowls will never buy that.
As far as an 8 team playoff is conserned, it will not happen for at least two more seasons. They will play this way until 2017. At that time, they will decide if they want an extra four teams on the playoffs or not. My guess is knowing the NCAA as I do, the answer will be no. It is not up for us to decide. It is up to people who frankly could care less about us to decide. What are you going to do? Stop watching the games? I sincerely doubt it. It also would destroy the 4 games that are out of the rotation in any given season. If the #1 and #2 team in the SEC both go to an 8 team post season, and the Sugar Bowl is not one of the two sights that get's a semi-final game, that means that the Sugar Bowl is stuck with the #3 SEC team. The Bowls will never buy that.
It is, but they are actually 3 four year cycles. I think they will allow one full cycle (3 years) to be complete befo0re making any changes. You know how long it took for this to happen.
the biggest problem they would have to work out would be with the bowls. If your bowl is not going to be hosting one of the semi-finals, and you are contracted to take the top team from a conference (Big 10-Pac 10 in the Rose, SEC and Big 12 in the Sugar) what are you going to do if two teams from let's say the Big 10 and Pac 10 make it? Then you are stuck with a matchup between #3 teams. They are going to have to figure out a way to get around that problem. I wold break up the tie-ins. I would have the Pac 12 in the Rose Bowl, the Big 10 in the Fiesta Bowl, the Big 12 in the Cotton Bowl, the SEC in the Sugar Bowl, and the ACC in the Orange Bowl. Then let those bowls go after the best of the rest for opponents.
Nope, can't stand it, especially from a doofus that claims to be a Rar-Rar owner, lol. BTW doofus, you never told me the model, I told you what's in the garage. So, let me get this straight....I'm say, Todd Gurley, and we've just won the SEC title, and now we're off to this fabled 8 game playoff for the crown. I walk into Mark Richt's office, and I tell him straight up, I need money to finish this. Todd is a pretty humble guy, I'm not, so Todd hires me to go into the office. I'm not leaving without money, and a lot of it. Todd hurts himself (as he already has), gonna cost him big NFL bucks. Trust me, I'll get Todd his money before he gets hurt.
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I look at players, and happen to live a few hundred miles from Mr. Gurley. I personally am one bad mofo, I can bench damn near twice my weight, I run with the deer, and you don't even want to try me on a bike. Todd Gurley will be a great back in the NFL, I tore an ACL, you work hard, you come back from it. I like Britney and Will.I.Am's opening line in "Scream and Shout," "Bring the Action."
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They just decided to go to 4 teams and you all want to double the number of teams already. The reason for the 4 team playoff is that teams that have a legitimate argument to be #1 or #2, for instance TCU and BSU in recent years, would be given a chance. It was not so teams who are legitimately number 6 or 7 would get in.
i once benched more than double my weight 505
now i am looking at my second neck surgery, see doc again in january to schedule surgery, then a surgery for torn shoulder and torn bicep ( was scheduled for last week but decided to wait till after neck ) back will be third surgery, followed by hip replacement sometime next winter.. not to mention arthritis in every part of my body. I hurt when I wake up and I hurt when I go to bed.. but there is no way in hell i am running with deer i mention this because i totally understand the pay issue you raise, speaking from experience it is very valid, but in reality it wont happen for awhile, but I think it will.... the public needs to hear far more voices than a few on what this sport does to our bodies.. not to mention the head injuries. I will be 49 next month and I can tell you that i already suffer from some short term and long term memory loss... i remember playing with numerous concussions where I would never think of taking myself off the field. The headaches and feelings of nausea are indescribable. I remember another time when my wrist was slammed between two helmets, again never came off the field for the last quarter. I could have swore it was broken but was only tore ligaments, but it felt broken. So having played the game and no suffering because of it I totally understand where your coming from and your points are all valid. Public looks at it as being paid to entertain, the focus needs to be on the education of what this sport does to your body, they need to be compensated because as you stated somewhere i read, these athletes are bigger, stronger, and faster. The collisions at times are head shaking.... i really don't think the public understands what the sport does to you physically.. so while I agree with you, it just wont happen for awhile, but strongly feel one day before i die it will..on the other note, really feel the 8 team thing can work.. hope your knee is well ! those can linger, mine is not to bad but i have tore the mcl along with breaking the tibia about 2 inches down from the knee.. having said all this I just popped my second pain pill and washing it down with one of my favorite red wines !
The reality of it is most college football players will never play in the NFL and only a very few are are so good that they will have such an impact in college to demand to be paid. Hell, those once in a lifetime players, for example Reggie Bush or Cam Newton, were already getting paid anyway. There is no way some d-lineman projected to be drafted in rounds 4-6 is going to start demanding pay to play. I am betting most would play for a chance for a championship.
Besides , look at who brought the lawsuit against the NCAA about pay to play. Northwestern! We are not talking the football factories of USC, Texas, OSU or Bama but Northwestern. How many guys from Northwestern play on Sundays? I am assuming the players at these football factories are already happy with whatever perks they are getting, again see Cam or Reggie, to make a couple of extra games an issue.
Bucks and Taco, you make very valid points. But the reality of it now, is they don't play 16 games....yet. If and when that happens, if you don't think players are gonna be screaming for some of the money, I'm tellin ya, I spent 22+ years selling goods to Fortune 500 companies, I got some choice desert here in North Carolina I'd like ya to look at. <grin>
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"on the other note, really feel the 8 team thing can work.. hope your knee is well ! those can linger, mine is not to bad but i have tore the mcl along with breaking the tibia about 2 inches down from the knee.. having said all this I just popped my second pain pill and washing it down with one of my favorite red wines !"
I was on oxy's forever, that pain will never go away, the pills had to, that's why I bike today. I can't run for shit anymore (part about the deer was to make everyone laugh), pain is too much, but I can ride with the wind. I got hit so hard a few times, I didn't think I'd get up off the carpet. Why do you think the average lifespan of an NFL player is only what, 3 years? Get all that ya want, I've made plenty in oil and gas.
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I was on oxy's forever, that pain will never go away, the pills had to, that's why I bike today. I can't run for shit anymore (part about the deer was to make everyone laugh), pain is too much, but I can ride with the wind. I got hit so hard a few times, I didn't think I'd get up off the carpet. Why do you think the average lifespan of an NFL player is only what, 3 years? Get all that ya want, I've made plenty in oil and gas.
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