What happened to all the 9/11 "truther" threads?

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Jesse Ventura Talks 9/11 Truth On Howard Stern

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008

Howard Stern has Jesse Ventura back on the show and he lets rip his views on the vietnam war, the gulf of tonkin false flag event, the PNAC doucuments, a new pearl harbor and 9/11.

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[ScottL]

My apologies to the sane posters on this forum. I revisited the thread to see if Big Play would allow me to accept the wager he offered to Joe C. I should have realized that my post would Totally Recall more Randumb America hate and imbecility.

 

[Dilrod]

so Scotty it's ok for the world to hate America but not ok for Americans to "hate" America, because, uh, it would be unpatriotic and stuff. Heil Hilter!!! Er, I mean, God Bless the USA!

 

[ScottL]

DilOREN, you are either taking drugs you should not be taking. Or not taking drugs you should be taking.

 

[Willie99]

TR, I do understand bad taste, evidently you don't.

You're going to expose me? to who?

There's a reason you're the defending kook of the year.

I'll make a TR argument: There is a Santa Clause, and it's widely accepted as fact, and anyone who doesn't believe it is a brain dead idiot.

So there, I just exposed you.

:nohead:

 

[ScottL]

Sorry, I didn't see your reply until now. It's a deal.
:toast:

BP, let me know the arangements, and if you want someone to hold the $. I'm 'Liberal' with the terms LOL. I have 100/330 on McCain with you. He must still be a breathing candidate on Election Day for there to be action.

 

[bigplay]

BP, let me know the arangements, and if you want someone to hold the $. I'm 'Liberal' with the terms LOL. I have 100/330 on McCain with you. He must still be a breathing candidate on Election Day for there to be action.

This sounds good both candidates must make it to election day. Payment through the mail, pokerstars, paypal, etc....
:toast:

 

[ScottL]

We are down!
EL-LET'S GET ERREADY TO RUM-BOWWWLLL!!!

:toast:

Just so you know. I play on credit at a few places on the DB screen at which 99% of the posters here need cash up front. The whole country might get fucked if you beat me on this wager. But you will not!

 

[ScottL]

Feds: Fire took down building next to twin towers


Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writer – Thu Aug 21, 6:10 pm ET

GAITHERSBURG, Md. – Federal investigators said Thursday they have solved a mystery of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks: the collapse of World Trade Center building 7, a source of long-running conspiracy theories.

The 47-story trapezoid-shaped building sat north of the World Trade Center towers, across Vesey Street in lower Manhattan in New York. On Sept. 11, it was set on fire by falling debris from the burning towers, but skeptics long have argued that fire and debris alone should not have brought down such a big steel-and-concrete structure.

Scientists with the National Institute of Standards and Technology say their three-year investigation of the collapse determined the demise of WTC 7 was actually the first time in the world a fire caused the total failure of a modern skyscraper.

"The reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery," said Dr. Shyam Sunder, the lead investigator on the NIST team.

Investigators also concluded that the collapse of the nearby towers broke the city water main, leaving the sprinkler system in the bottom half of the building without water.

The building has been the subject of a wide range of conspiracy theories for the last seven years, partly because the collapse occurred about seven hours after the twin towers came down. That fueled suspicion that someone intentionally blew up the building in a controlled demolition.

Critics like Mike Berger of the group 9/11 Truth said he wasn't buying the government's explanation.

"Their explanation simply isn't sufficient. We're being lied to," he said, arguing that there is other evidence suggesting explosives were used on the building.

Sunder said his team investigated the possibility that an explosion inside the building brought it down, but found there was no large boom or other noise that would have occurred with such a detonation. Investigators also created a giant computer model of the collapse, based partly on news footage from CBS News, that they say shows that internal column failure brought down the building.

Investigators also ruled out the possibility that the collapse was caused by fires from a substantial amount of diesel fuel that was stored in the building, most of it for generators for the city's emergency operations command center.

The 77-page report concluded that the fatal blow to the building came when the 13th floor collapsed, weakening a critical steel support column that led to catastrophic failure.

"When this critical column buckled due to lack of floor supports, it was the first domino in the chain," said Sunder.

The NIST investigators issued more than a dozen building recommendations as a result of their inquiry, most of which repeat earlier recommendations from their investigation into the collapse of the two large towers.

In both instances, investigators concluded that extreme heat caused some steel beams to lose strength, causing further failures throughout the buildings until the entire structure succumbed.

The recommendations include building skyscrapers with stronger connections and framing systems to resist the effects of thermal expansion, and structural systems designed to prevent damage to one part of a building from spreading to other parts.

No one was killed in the collapse of building 7 because it had been fully evacuated. A new, slightly taller World Trade Center 7 opened in 2006.

A spokesman for the leaseholder of the World Trade Center, developer Larry Silverstein, praised the government's work.

"Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonor the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day," said Silverstein spokesman Dara McQuillan.

In discussing the findings, the investigator Sunder acknowledged that some may still not be convinced, but insisted the science behind their findings is "incredibly conclusive."

"The public should really recognize the science is really behind what we have said," he said, adding: "The obvious stares you in the face."

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On the Net:

National Institute of Standards and Technology: http://www.nist.gov/