What a joke the state of Va is on speeding tickets

[texansfan]

whats so funny?

I live in california...you must live in Texas

two ENTIRELY different states

I can smoke weed....if you were to have a roach in Texas you get the electric chair

You can smoke weed? You can also head up to San Fran and become a butt pirate, who gives a shit really...

What's funny is what you posted.

 

[mrcrash]

whats so funny?

I live in california...you must live in Texas

two ENTIRELY different states

I can smoke weed....if you were to have a roach in Texas you get the electric chair

:lol: I agree with texansfan.


You said you won because the cop did not show, yes that's true. But for the rest :lol:.

 

[PointGiven]

You can smoke weed? You can also head up to San Fran and become a butt pirate, who gives a shit really...

What's funny is what you posted.

are all people that live in Texas simple minded?

I guess you think Im just talking out of my ass....so ill break it down for you

then you can reply with the smiley to replace your limited vocab

I highlighted the important parts so its easy for you to follow

in my particular case...I was 'clocked' doing 56 in a 35...in california...when someone is cited for going 25 mph over the speed limit...they do NOT get the option for traffic school...also...26 mph over the speed limit increases the fine about $200....hmm...I was 'clocked' just 26miles over the speed limit...1 miles less and it would have been about a $125 fine and the option to have it removed from my record...odd wouldnt you say??

no way in the world was I doing freeway speed in a residential area...most likely I was going 45 as all the traffic on that particular street does....anyhow...the officer was hiding behind a tree...and using his LIDAR gun...he got me in what is known as a "speed trap"

in order to understand what a "speed trap" is defined as...you need to read through the California Vehicle Code...which I did...and it states

40802 A "speed trap" is either of the following:
(a) A particular section of a highway measured as to distance and with boundaries marked, designated, or otherwise determined in order that the speed of a vehicle may be calculated by securing the time it takes the vehicle to travel the known distance.

40802(b) defines where "radar or other electronic devices" can be used to determine speed -- in essence, either on "local streets and roads" or on highways where a traffic survey has been conducted within the last five years.

http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/ca-speed.html


in simple terms for you texasguy...if he uses LIDAR to clock drivers speed...according to california vehicle code...it is defined as a "speed trap"

see the little section at the end of CVC40802??...in regards to "traffic surveys"

according to california law...the city who posts the speed limit on their streets must have a VALID speed zone survey on file that is recent for up to 5 years...in order to use LIDAR or any other radar device to check drivers speed

if there is no valid speed zone survey for the road where LIDAR was used...the ticket is automatically thrown out in court...and the officer can actually be held in contempt for wriitng bogus tickets

now this law only applys to roads with a "relative" speed limit...highways have "absolute" speed limits...and can never be exceeded according to the law

but "absolute" speed limits..i.e. roads and residential...CAN BE EXCEEDED depending on the "safety" of the traffic conditions

there is also a case I was ready to cite from 1980 where in the law it states in order for a conviction for ANY crime the prosecution must prove the defendant is guilty of ALL ELEMENTS of the alleged charge

well....the basic speed law CVC22350 states...no driver shall drive at a unsafe speed depending on 5 different elements....you can look them up yourself...Im tired of educating you...no way would a prosecutor be able to prove someone was guilty of all 5 elements of the basic CVC22350 "unsafe speed" law...in california...especially if the ticket was written on a street that had a "relative" speed limit

it is in my opinion that the officer didnt show that day...because I requested a copy of the valid speed zone survey from the road I was ticketed on...also calibration records of the LIDAR gun...and the officers prior history of tickets written...in my discovery request before trial

you see...if the cop shows up...I ask him the question "can you please show me a valid speed zone survey for the road where you used LIDAR to clock my speed?"

when they cant provide it....not only does it make the court look like an ass

it now becomes public record that the dept who wrote my ticket also wrote HUNDREDS OF OTHER BOGUS TICKETS

the survey is used...to justfiy...the posted speed limit...maybe the survey recommends 45mph...but the city posts a speed limit of 35...are you following me here texasdude?

that officer already knew I was going to ask for the survey...he knew...and his dept knew...they didnt have it...so they took a loss for $375 with me...and collected the other $59609870807 from saps like yourself who didnt fight it

surprising if you came to cali you would want to visit san fran and not so cal...seems you might be educated in "butt pirates"...anything else would be highly questionable

:cripwalk:

 

[PointGiven]

oh and one more thing that is ALWAYS GOOD FOR THE DEFENSE

EXTENSIONS

AS MANY AS YOU CAN

:drink:

 

[5teamparlay]

http://news.stv.tv/east-central/248...s-graham-used-in-bid-to-cut-speeding-in-fife/
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A life-size cardboard cut out of a police officer is being placed at the side of roads in Fife in a bid to cut speeding.
Based on community officer PC James Graham, the cut out shows the copper pointing a radar gun at motorists.
The pop-up policeman was made in response to residents complaining speeding hotspots were not being tackled.
The cardboard PC Graham is set up by the side of the road in Cowdenbeath, left for around an hour and then moved elsewhere.
The 50-year-old officer said the cut out is already working. He added: "This method of reducing speed in the community has already yielded positive results.
"Many members of the public [are] commenting on how these ‘models’ are so life-like they have caused them to not only reduce their speed but also act as a reminder of the issues around speeding."
PC Graham said motorists who assume they can speed past the cut-out should beware – sometimes it will be the real police officer.
He said: "If people see the life-sized sign outside the school they might get used to it. But then we will replace the sign with myself so they don’t get used to it."
There will be six versions of the cut-out placed around various parts of Cowdenbeath at a cost of around £1000, which was met by the local community safety partnership.
PC Graham, who has been an officer for nine years, came up with the idea as he had previously worked as a screen printer. He said the signs had led to some awkward situations with his neighbours.
He said: "I heard from one of my neighbours who said 'thanks very much, you didn’t wave to me today'."
PC Graham admits other police officers have made fun of the "pop up Jims".
He said: "I get the mickey ripped all the time. But at the same time if it slows people down then we've achieved our goal."
Motoring organisations are not convinced the cut outs will help reduce speeding.
A spokesman for the AA said: "I think it’s probably a bit of fun, but equally it might encourage some drivers to slow down.
"It may just warn off some people from speeding, but what happens when the novelty has worn off and there are cobwebs on it?
"We need to tackle speeding, but I think the effect of this will wear off as quickly as the paint on these will in the rain."

 

[DrunkenHorseplayer]

I'm going to have to remember this thread the next time I get ticketed; great post PG.

 

[Jstack34]

I posted about a ticket I got in VA a few months ago. No one on the road, 11:45 at night as I am driving home and the cop comes out of no where. I was probably speeding, but who doesn't go over the speed limit. VA is steep with the fines