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I don't think UCLA has a chance at WSU anyway
I agree. Perhaps the Cougs are #2 in the PAC 12 and like last year, made a huge leap from where they were at the beginning of the season. Their defense at Stanford was stunningly good. And they held the Ducks to 25 until garbage time.
 

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Conan, What's your opinion of the offensive coordination at UCLA? Imo it has been piss poor. How can you have almost ZERO run game with a QB like Rosen? Just terrible imo, they became so 1 dimensional it probably contributed to getting him hurt against blitz happy Az State.
 

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Conan, What's your opinion of the offensive coordination at UCLA? Imo it has been piss poor. How can you have almost ZERO run game with a QB like Rosen? Just terrible imo, they became so 1 dimensional it probably contributed to getting him hurt against blitz happy Az State.


I'm not Conan but your question has a fairly simple answer....Mora is a bad coach who surrounds himself with bad coaches. Team had every opportunity to take over Pac 12 when usc got hit with scholarship reductions and failed to do so. The talent has been there but they underachieve year in, year out. That is a product of bad coaching/leadership.
 

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I'm not Conan but your question has a fairly simple answer....Mora is a bad coach who surrounds himself with bad coaches. Team had every opportunity to take over Pac 12 when usc got hit with scholarship reductions and failed to do so. The talent has been there but they underachieve year in, year out. That is a product of bad coaching/leadership.

Nailed it.
 

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Conan, What's your opinion of the offensive coordination at UCLA? Imo it has been piss poor. How can you have almost ZERO run game with a QB like Rosen? Just terrible imo, they became so 1 dimensional it probably contributed to getting him hurt against blitz happy Az State.
Their offensive line is and has been horrible for several years now. Rosen gets hit alot and it has contributed to his injuries. Even when Hundley was at QB, he often had to run for his life. Former OC Noel Mazzone was able to cover it up some by working to get some productivity out of the RB position, and leverage quick throws, but he's not the OC at A&M. UCLA hasn't had an explosive receiver who could take the top off a defense in years but considering how shoddy the OL has been, the QB wouldn't have had the time to make the deep throws anyway.
 

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Typical letdown every year sendacash. Kennedy Polamalu hurt his Samoan
tribe when he took a job under Mora. The problem is Mora. He has a ceiling
lower than he's given credit for. He was rejected up in Seattle and it looks
like they made the right move. A weak South division resulted in a few
good years in the W/L column which promptly ended when the Bruins had
to play a quality opponent in the Pac12 CCG. In those recent years, both
Stanford and Oregon have owned them. Then ASU came along in the South
division and they also owned them like WSU will do on Saturday.
 

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UCLA is also 1-5 ATS thus far this year most of that with Josh Rosen.
Arizona is 1-5
Oregon is 0-5-1
WSU is 4-1
Colorado is 6-0
 

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Think the cat might be out of the bag with Wazzu as they are an impressive 14-4 ATS since start of 2015 season.
 

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I think the comparison to Larry Coker might end up being spot on.

I've got an even better comparison, one that has floated around Nebraska media types. And I think it starts off much closer to parallel because both Nebraska and Oregon have similar recruiting limitations, but top end facilities and "unique system" made them a difficult match-up. Both are ultra-sensitive to having to have the right guy/s. Coaching continuity is huge for both of those programs and both Oregon and NU had long time coaches and coordinators. NU lost its long time HC in 1997 and then its long time DC in 1999. Promotions came from within. It was a machine, but the cracks started to appear. Even though they played for a national title in 2001, if you go back and look at that roster you see how they were carried by a great player and Heisman QB. A year later they were .500, after two years, the coaches got fired even though a new DC was brought in to right the D (which he actually did). Swap Oregon in for that story and change the date, and it's a set of eerie similarities. Oregon needs to proceed with caution. A return to obscurity is very, very real.
 

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be careful betting the ucla wazzu game...weather will be messy the tail of end of a hurricane from the pacific
 

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I've got an even better comparison, one that has floated around Nebraska media types. And I think it starts off much closer to parallel because both Nebraska and Oregon have similar recruiting limitations, but top end facilities and "unique system" made them a difficult match-up. Both are ultra-sensitive to having to have the right guy/s. Coaching continuity is huge for both of those programs and both Oregon and NU had long time coaches and coordinators. NU lost its long time HC in 1997 and then its long time DC in 1999. Promotions came from within. It was a machine, but the cracks started to appear. Even though they played for a national title in 2001, if you go back and look at that roster you see how they were carried by a great player and Heisman QB. A year later they were .500, after two years, the coaches got fired even though a new DC was brought in to right the D (which he actually did). Swap Oregon in for that story and change the date, and it's a set of eerie similarities. Oregon needs to proceed with caution. A return to obscurity is very, very real.
Shades of a likeness indeed.

Colorado also owned the Huskers pretty much back in those days too.
Surprise surprise, now they own Oregon. At least they are off to a good start,

I understand your reference to Mariotta but who were you referring to when you
mentioned a quarterback that carried Nebraska back when. I'm feeling a bit lazy.
 

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be careful betting the ucla wazzu game...weather will be messy the tail of end of a hurricane from the pacific
No problem. I am sure that the Coogs won't forget to bring their shampoo.
 

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I think RLR must have been referring to Tommy "TD" Frazier who lead Nebraska to consecutive National Titles in 1994 and 1995. Widely considered to be one of the greatest college football players of all time, at least according to his Wiki page. I wouldn't say that Colo owned Neb as the series has been fairly one sided in favor of the Corn, although at the height of the McCartney era the Buffs did field some better teams and thus created a border rivalry, usually played out on Thanksgiving day for about 20 years or so. Even your boy Scott Frost won a national title as a Corn QB back in 1997 and he was pretty shifty for a white boy. There were several other great options QB from that era including Darian Hagan from Colorado and the late Dee Dowis from Air Force. But here's the rub, the best thing to come out of Nebraska to this day, is still I-80. Although Lake McConaughy is pretty nice.
 

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Shades of a likeness indeed.

Colorado also owned the Huskers pretty much back in those days too.
Surprise surprise, now they own Oregon. At least they are off to a good start,

I understand your reference to Mariotta but who were you referring to when you
mentioned a quarterback that carried Nebraska back when. I'm feeling a bit lazy.

2001 Heisman winner Eric Crouch.
 

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I think RLR must have been referring to Tommy "TD" Frazier who lead Nebraska to consecutive National Titles in 1994 and 1995. Widely considered to be one of the greatest college football players of all time, at least according to his Wiki page. I wouldn't say that Colo owned Neb as the series has been fairly one sided in favor of the Corn, although at the height of the McCartney era the Buffs did field some better teams and thus created a border rivalry, usually played out on Thanksgiving day for about 20 years or so. Even your boy Scott Frost won a national title as a Corn QB back in 1997 and he was pretty shifty for a white boy. There were several other great options QB from that era including Darian Hagan from Colorado and the late Dee Dowis from Air Force. But here's the rub, the best thing to come out of Nebraska to this day, is still I-80. Although Lake McConaughy is pretty nice.
sendacash,
I think RLR was comparing the 2001 Huskers to the 2014 Ducks, both in the NC picture at the time. Afterwards, Frank Solich and then Bill Callahan both took Nebraska into the tank as Oregon has done a couple years after their recent championship run. Colorado did put the hurt to Nebraska often around then and after, even by a pretty lopsided score once as I recall. I used to follow that annual rivalry game. It received a lot of national exposure back then.
 

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ive studied offense + offensive innovation for 20 years now. I'm not so much surprised that the PAC 12 has caught up to the ducks, as I am at the rapid decline. I love Brady Hoke as a man, but as a coordinator / HC, the guy is in way above his head. Brady Hoke believes in a certain style of play. A bruising, physical, fundamentally sound defense led by the front 4. Hoke infuriated us at Michigan bc even when his scheme wasn't working he refused to make adjustments or try new things. No matter how bad or frustrating it got, probably even more frustrating was Hoke's weekly insistence that the team had a GREAT week of practice.

Watching this Oregon defense makes me have flashbacks to how inept Hoke was on both sides of the ball at Michigan. I feel sorry for Oregon fans and I can tell you that it won't get any better bc Hoke will not change his philosophy. Brady doesn't care that a traditional 4-3 front 4 alignment is a terrible matchup for mostly every team in the PAC 12.

Mark Helfrich is no where near the offensive genius that chip Kelly was. Instead of fitting individual game plans to players skill sets (something Kelly thrived at), Helfrich puts his scheme first, and expects the players execute every assignment. Oregon fans cant really see the offensive decline bc Mariota, and Adams were good enough to overcome the other shortcomings on the duck offense. Now here we are. Everyone wants to run the Oregon offense, but I can tell you, just as the article states, that being an elite QB in the ducks system is a difficult task.

Oregon relies on a lot of QB reads within both their running game and their passing game. For the ducks offense to be successful the QB must be able to make the right reads consistently throughout the season for the offense to have continued success. Marcus Mariota's don't grow on trees, but clearly by now Helfrich and the ducks recruiting should have found someone capable of doing the job. Unfortunately, I think the Ducks are in for a rough year this year, and in 2017. if I'm Helfrich I'm gonna let the freshman QB Herbert learn the position through playing it for the rest of the season. You can't generate any real continuity offensively by having 5th year FCS transfer QB's come in for a one year trial. Let Herbert get used to the speed of the game and the speed at which he must make some of these reads.

Ultimately, I think Helfrich is not the man for the job. To me, Mark Helfrich is to Oregon what Larry Coker was to Miami. Both brought into extremely talented programs with established roster + identity. Both coaches succeeded big time in year one, but regressed each year after until the axe came. If Helfrich isn't careful he will end up with the same fate as Larry Coker.

If I'm the Oregon AD I would at the very least, see if Tom Hermann or Larry Fedora would be interested in the job.

Thanks for dropping the knowledge Conan, always a pleasure.
Respectfully, Tom Hermann yes ... Larry Fedora no. I've seen Fedora make innumerable stupid coaching decisions.
 

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Respectfully, Tom Hermann yes ... Larry Fedora no. I've seen Fedora make innumerable stupid coaching decisions.

I don't necessarily think Fedora deserves a big time job, but after Hermann, it would appear that there is a large dropoff after hermann. I mean there's Briles, Lane Kiffin, and ??? I like it when Oregon is good, it's better for the PAC 12. I'm just not sure who else the ducks would include on their short list. It will definitely be interesting to see what happens to this ducks team going forward.
 

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I don't necessarily think Fedora deserves a big time job, but after Hermann, it would appear that there is a large dropoff after hermann. I mean there's Briles, Lane Kiffin, and ??? I like it when Oregon is good, it's better for the PAC 12. I'm just not sure who else the ducks would include on their short list. It will definitely be interesting to see what happens to this ducks team going forward.
Very much agree about the drop-off after Hermann. Think LSU, Texas, Oregon, Notre Dame, Baylor and even UCLA could all be interested in Hermann. The stink will wear off of Briles just as it did with Petrino.
 

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