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Wait! A NEW Grand Jury Investigating Trump?


Tuesday, June 06, 2023 at 3:39:42p PDT
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...A-NEW-Grand-Jury-Investigating-Trump#comments

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Looking at the diary about Mark Meadows appearing before the Jack Smith grand jury, I wanted to see what the full NYTimes story had to say. But what caught my eye was not that piece, but a sidebar story: Grand Jury in Florida Hints at Unknown Complexities in Trump Document Inquiry.
So, as it turns out, a brand new grand jury that nobody has known about has started meeting in Florida to look into the Mar A Lago documents!

The latest twist in the inquiry into former President Donald J. Trump’s handling of classified documents is the surprise revelation that a previously unknown federal grand jury in Florida has recently started hearing testimony in the case.
The grand jury in Florida is separate from the one that has been sitting for months in Washington and has been the center of activity for prosecutors as they investigate whether Mr. Trump mishandled classified documents after leaving office or obstructed efforts to retrieve them. Among those who have appeared before the Washington grand jury in the past few months or have been subpoenaed by it, people familiar with the investigation said, are more than 20 members of Mr. Trump’s Secret Service security detail.
As for the Florida grand jury, which began hearing evidence last month, only a handful of witnesses have testified to it or are scheduled to appear before it, according to the people familiar with its workings. At least one witness has already testified there, and another is set to testify on Wednesday.
The story continues, noting that two separate grand juries could possibly bring separate charges in both Florida and Washinton, DC.
It’s also possible, according to the Times, that the DC grand jury is wrapping up and prosecutors are preparing to file charges there while the investigation continues in Florida.
Another consideration would be that the Florida grand jury is investigating activity by those who work at Mar A Lago and who might have committed crimes there but not in DC.
This is quite a surprise, coming out now. Makes me think that the criminal investigation is really going strong, and Smith is leaving no stones unturned to find out what really happened with the documents, and what degree if criminality is involved.
 

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bitch. Talking about buttfuckings? 114 times straight. 1000 times here with abandoned threads. U stupid ignorant shine boy wouldn’t know the truth ever. Ur delusional , a loser , a gutter piece of scamming shit. Lowest of lows. Ur kind don’t know the truth. U have been buttfucked by lies. Told so many lies. Stay ignorant and posting these epic fucking failed threads my bitch that are bumped daily that u ignore. 0-114 for life , nuff said , 1000 abandoned threads , epic fail week, proof in the pudding. Now go stare at ugly ass Ann before u post ur next fake buttfucked thread
 

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Stay ignorant my Nazi View attachment 69197 bitch. Talking about buttfuckings? 114 times straight. 1000 times here with abandoned threads. U stupid ignorant shine boy wouldn’t know the truth ever. Ur delusional , a loser , a gutter piece of scamming shit. Lowest of lows. Ur kind don’t know the truth. U have been buttfucked by lies. Told so many lies. Stay ignorant and posting these epic fucking failed threads my bitch that are bumped daily that u ignore. 0-114 for life , nuff said , 1000 abandoned threads , epic fail week, proof in the pudding. Now go stare at ugly ass Ann before u post ur next fake buttfucked thread
Yeah, ALL those Grand Juries-in New York, Georgia, multiple ones in D.C., now, apparently, one in Florida, too, they're ALL being lied to, right?

You just keep on THINKING, Nazi Scum, that's obviously what you're GOOD at, lol. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
 

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Ex-Trump aide appears in Miami federal court to testify in front of grand jury :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :lock: :lock: :lock: :highfive::highfive::highfive::+cops-2+::+cops-2+::+cops-2+::tongue0015::tongue0015::tongue0015::lock::lock::lock:


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A former top aide to Donald Trump appeared Wednesday in federal court in Miami for testimony to a grand jury investigating potential classified-document mishandling and obstruction at the ex-president’s Palm Beach property, according to a person familiar with the matter.

At 2:32 of the video, this runt issues a ludicrous public statement, so, either he perjured himself, took the 5th, or he spilled and is just trying to look good to Blubber Boy.

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Whatever Jack Smith's third grand jury is up to, it isn't good for Trump :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::highfive::highfive::highfive::+cops-2+::+cops-2+::+cops-2+::tongue0015::tongue0015::tongue0015::+anxious-:+anxious-:+anxious-(y)(y)(y):lock::lock::lock:

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by Mark Sumner for Daily Kos
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Wednesday, June 07, 2023 at 11:22:19a PDT
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...tea-leaves-on-Jack-Smith-s-next-move#comments
Special counsel Jack Smith was appointed on Nov. 18, 2022. Within the next two weeks, Smith had assembled a team of nearly two dozen federal prosecutors. Before the end of the month, Smith had empaneled two federal grand juries—one to hear testimony concerning Donald Trump’s actions in connection to the 2020 election, the second for the investigation into Trump’s handling of classified documents. Before November was out, dozens of subpoenas for testimony before those grand juries had already been delivered.
More than two years after Trump left office, it’s easy to be upset about the speed with which federal authorities have moved to hold him responsible for his numerous and apparently obvious crimes. It’s much harder to be upset with Smith, who in seven months has conducted what appears to be a wide-ranging investigation into everything from Trump’s schemes to replace the attorney general with someone more coup-friendly, to claims that security video at Mar-a-Lago was lost because someone drained the swimming pool.

One of Smith’s two grand juries, the one hearing the classified documents case, went into a reported hiatus earlier this month after hearing testimony from dozens, if not hundreds, of witnesses, ranging from former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to 20 members of Trump’s Secret Service security detail. Many observers regarded this as a sign that Smith was preparing to either issue indictments or make a statement that the investigation had not led to findings that could be charged. And considering the wealth of public evidence about how Trump hid documents, stonewalled investigators, and bragged about showing off classified information, the odds of indictment seemed very high.
But now something has happened that no one was predicting: Smith has created grand jury number three.

On Saturday, NBC News first reported that a new grand jury had been empaneled in Florida. While that report made the action seem like a continuation of the testimony before the Washington, D.C., jury hearing evidence on the classified document case, it raised the central concern about this new development.
It’s unclear how the testimony expected in Florida will affect the grand jury that has been investigating in Washington or whether prosecutors are prepared to seek an indictment in either jurisdiction.
It now appears this grand jury has been hearing testimony for at least a month. However, it has heard from many fewer witnesses, and apparently none of the high-profile names that attended the court in Washington.
Looking at the possibilities raised by Smith’s creation of this third jury, The New York Times projects three possible meanings:
  • The Florida jury is hearing additional evidence from local witnesses rather than requiring those witnesses to fly to Washington, D.C. The Times appears to consider this a low-probability option, but it might make sense if there were something Smith needed from workers at Mar-a-Lago or at some other location in the state.
  • Trump, along with possibly some high-ranking members of his staff, might be indicted in Washington, D.C., while others—such as staff members involved in moving classified documents from a storage room where they had been kept in an arrangement with the FBI—might be indicted in Florida.
  • Smith has decided to move his entire case to Florida after determining that there was some undetermined issue with the Washington, D.C., venue, a move that might argue against an indictment of Trump since it appears to dump months of testimony from Meadows, those Secret Service agents, and hundreds of others who are unlikely to be called again before the Florida jury.
Worryingly, the Times article suggests that the “some indictments in D.C., other indictments in Florida” scenario is more likely if the D.C. jury is still active. But whether that grand jury is active, on hiatus, or just plain over has yet to be confirmed.



While every article is quick to remind readers that Smith and his prosecutors have far more information than what has leaked to the public, it’s genuinely difficult to see how Trump could not be charged at this point. The two instructions given to Smith by Attorney General Merrick Garland were that he look at whether Trump wrongfully retained classified documents after he left the White House, and whether he obstructed lawful efforts to retrieve those documents.
The answer to both these questions is a resounding “yes.” Even from the relatively small amount of information available to the public, it’s clear that Trump took documents he knew to be highly classified, that he lied to both the National Archives and FBI about holding these documents, that he bragged about showing classified documents to others, that he violated agreements to hand over documents, and that he made repeated false claims about having declassified documents. It seems impossible that Smith’s team would have any additional knowledge that somehow makes all this less than indictable.
Some clue about what’s going on may be gleaned from looking at who is appearing before the Florida jury. CNN reports that one of those called to testify is former Trump spokesperson Taylor Budowich.
In addition to having previously held a position as Trump’s communications director, Budowich is the founder and operator of a political action committee called “MAGA Inc.” That PAC, formed just weeks before the 2020 election, stepped in at the last minute to reportedly “supersede Trump’s existing super PAC.” In those fading weeks of the campaign, MAGA Inc. was the recipient of some rather odd transfers of funds. That includes getting $32 million from other Trump PACs just before the election. It reported spending $12 million in the run up to the election, with most of that aimed at promoting Senate candidates supported by Trump.
Currently, it seems that the Florida jury may have heard from no more than two other witnesses, and the appearance of Budowich brings in another possibility that doesn’t seem to be among the options so far mentioned. The Florida grand jury might not be about the classified documents at all, but about something that surfaced during Trump’s other two investigations.
The Florida jury might be hearing testimony on how Trump scammed his supporters, both by false claims about the election, and by false claims about the investigations. That would mean that Smith convened a third grand jury to hear testimony in what is essentially a third case, one that has connections to his other two investigations, but one that also has a different set of potential witnesses, charges, and defendants.
Back in April, The Washington Post reported Smith had issued a series of subpoenas “focused on money raised during the period between Nov. 3, 2020, and the end of Trump’s time in office on Jan. 20, 2021.” They called this the “fundraising prong” of Smith’s investigation and speculated on charges of felony fraud. However, if this investigation bore fruit, it makes absolute sense that Smith would want to separate that investigation from those into the classified documents and attempt to overturn the 2020 election.
The best explanation for Smith’s third jury may be that it’s a third case. It’s not a substitute for either of the Washington juries. Just the fact that Budowich was called shows this is something altogether different from the charges Smith was looking into in those two investigations.
Note that this idea doesn’t mesh with that of some very smart and legally savvy people like Marcy Wheeler, who connects the Florida jury and the classified documents case through Budowich being Trump’s spokesperson at the time he issued some pretty obvious lies about his actions in that case. Betting against Marcy is never a great idea on any kind of legal issue.
But unless Smith has decided that there is some sort of venue issue that requires the document case to be heard in Florida, it’s hard to see how this works. And if that’s the case, and what we’re going to get now is a redo of the testimony heard over the last seven months, it’s hard to see starting with Budowich.
If Smith would only get on with indicting Trump, maybe we can learn something. He can start with case number one, or case number two, or case number three. But he needs to get out the cuffs. Soon.
 

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Grand Jury in Florida Hints at Unknown Complexities in Trump Documents Inquiry :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :+cops-2+::+cops-2+::+cops-2+::highfive::highfive::highfive::hung::hung::hung::arrowhead:arrowhead:arrowhead:lock::lock::lock::+anxious-:+anxious-:+anxious-

Prosecutors have started calling witnesses to a federal grand jury in Miami after months in which activity in the investigation was centered on a separate grand jury in Washington.



June 6, 2023
The latest twist in the inquiry into former President Donald J. Trump’s handling of classified documents is the surprise revelation that a previously unknown federal grand jury in Florida has recently started hearing testimony in the case.
The grand jury in Florida is separate from the one that has been sitting for months in Washington and has been the center of activity for prosecutors as they investigate whether Mr. Trump mishandled classified documents after leaving office or obstructed efforts to retrieve them. Among those who have appeared before the Washington grand jury in the past few months or have been subpoenaed by it, people familiar with the investigation said, are more than 20 members of Mr. Trump’s Secret Service security detail.
But there are indications that the Washington grand jury — located in the city’s federal courthouse — may have stopped hearing witness testimony in recent weeks, according to three people familiar with its workings.
As for the Florida grand jury, which began hearing evidence last month, only a handful of witnesses have testified to it or are scheduled to appear before it, according to the people familiar with its workings. At least one witness has already testified there, and another is set to testify on Wednesday.



It is an open question why prosecutors impaneled the Florida grand jury — which is sitting in Federal District Court in Miami — and whether it is now the only one hearing testimony. This uncertainty, which is largely due to the secret nature of grand juries, serves to underscore how much about the management of the documents case by the special counsel Jack Smith remains out of public view.
“We know a tiny fraction of what agents and prosecutors know, and so it is hazardous, if not impossible, to figure out the government’s strategy from afar,” said Chuck Rosenberg, a former U.S. attorney and F.B.I. official. “It is like the guy berating an umpire for missed calls from the cheap seats.”

Understand the Trump Documents Inquiry​

The Justice Department is conducting a criminal investigation into Donald Trump’s handling of classified files after he left office.​

  • Target of the Investigation: Federal prosecutors have informed Donald Trump’s legal team that the former president is a target of their documents inquiry. The notice from the special counsel’s office suggested that an indictment was on the horizon.
  • Mark Meadows Testifies: The final White House chief of staff under Trump, who is seen as a potentially key witness in the documents and Jan. 6 inquiries, testified before a federal grand jury hearing evidence in the investigations.
  • Grand Jury in Florida: A federal grand jury in Miami started hearing testimony in the case, after months in which activity was centered in Washington. It is an open question why prosecutors impaneled the Florida grand jury; the uncertainty underscores how much about the investigation remains out of public view.
But even though much is shrouded in mystery, legal experts and people familiar with the inquiry suggested that there could be a number of reasons Mr. Smith may have chosen to use a grand jury in Florida for at least some elements of the case. His decision could have significant effects on how the inquiry plays out.
In simple terms, the people familiar with the matter said, if both grand juries are in operation, it suggests that prosecutors are considering bringing charges in both Washington and Florida. It is possible that Mr. Trump could be charged in one jurisdiction while other people involved in the case are charged in the other.
But if only the Florida grand jury is currently hearing testimony, it suggests two possibilities.
One is that the investigation in Washington is largely complete and that prosecutors are now poised to make a decision about bringing charges there while still weighing other potential indictments in Florida.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/08/...on=CompanionColumn&contentCollection=Trending
The other is that Mr. Smith has decided that Florida is the proper venue for any charges he might bring in the case and has moved the entire grand jury proceeding there, they said.

(Another possibility is that the Florida grand jury is merely hearing evidence as a convenience to local witnesses — though that option would seem less likely since more than one witness has appeared before it.)
It would not be so unusual if Mr. Smith’s team opened the documents investigation in Washington and then chose to move it to Florida because of legal issues related to venue, said Brandon L. Van Grack, a former federal prosecutor who worked on cases involving national security and classified material.


Mr. Van Grack said it would be relatively easy to move a grand jury inquiry from Washington to Miami if needed. Prosecutors would simply have to read the early grand jury transcripts to the new grand jurors or have federal agents offer them a summary of the most important points.
If Mr. Smith is considering bringing charges in both Washington and Miami, it is possible that the latter might involve potential targets who live and work in Florida. Investigators, for example, have been scrutinizing the roles of two employees of Mr. Trump at Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence, for their roles in the storage and security of classified documents there.
Even if the Washington grand jury is now on a hiatus, it is possible that it could reconvene and vote to charge Mr. Trump. If it does not, however, and only the Florida grand jury remains in operation, that would suggest that Mr. Smith’s office had concluded that a case against Mr. Trump or his aides should be based in Florida alone, the people familiar with the matter said.
There would be reasons for that last decision, said Timothy Parlatore, a lawyer who resigned last month from Mr. Trump’s legal team. Many of the central events of the documents inquiry took place when Mr. Trump was living in Florida, he said.
Mr. Trump resided at Mar-a-Lago when he and his lawyers first began negotiating the return of government records to the National Archives in late 2021. And the initial trove of classified documents that the archives discovered was in a batch of 15 boxes of records that Mr. Trump sent up to Washington from Florida.



Florida is where Mr. Trump was living when the Justice Department issued its subpoena last May for the return of all classified documents in the possession of his presidential office. And when prosecutors from Washington sought a meeting with Mr. Trump’s lawyers to enforce that subpoena and collect any relevant material, it took place at Mar-a-Lago.
After prosecutors came to believe that Mr. Trump was still holding on to classified material even after the subpoena, they sent the F.B.I. to search Mar-a-Lago. Agents hauled away another 100 or so classified documents that were discovered at the Florida compound in violation of the subpoena.
But prosecutors could still seek to establish venue in Washington for charges against Mr. Trump, especially given that moving a potential case to Miami would not be without risk for Mr. Smith and his team.
A Florida jury might prove to be more sympathetic to Mr. Trump than a Washington jury. And the judges in the Southern District of Florida — among them Aileen M. Cannon, who made an unusual decision to pause the investigation in its early stages to have an outside arbiter review the documents seized at Mar-a-Lago — might be more inclined to rule in Mr. Trump’s favor than those in Washington.
 
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Jack Smith belongs in the funny farm too along with all of the other lying commie retarded nutcases including duhprick…Rubber room bound duhprick…
 

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Yeah, ALL those Grand Juries-in New York, Georgia, multiple ones in D.C., now, apparently, one in Florida, too, they're ALL being lied to, right?

You just keep on THINKING, Nazi Scum, that's obviously what you're GOOD at, lol. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
???????????. Wait? They have lied to you before , the abandoned threads state that. ????
 

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???????????. Wait? They have lied to you before , the abandoned threads state that. ????
You mean, like "they" have "lied" to you, repeatedly with "Dem Voter Fraud has already started?" How about your RECENT "gem," NOW THAT OUR BELOVED FUHRER HAS BEEN INDICTED, HE IS MORE POWERFUL THAT EVER," or, words to that effect. Sooooo, if ONE indictment makes omnipotent, 3 or 4 (D.C., GA, FL) oughta just make him the Lord GAWD hisself, right, Dipshit? Odd, he doesn't appear to actually embracing his "new found powers," Up at MIDNIGHT, pounding out a few Big Macs as well as jibberish. Geez, get some NEW material, tRumpy, you think you're clean as a hound's tooth, we GET it, lol: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :lock: :lock: :lock: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :arrowhead:arrowhead:arrowhead:hung::hung::hung::+anxious-:+anxious-:+anxious-:+cops-2+::+cops-2+::+cops-2+:


Trump midnight PANIC ATTACK over new arrest​


25,189 views Jun 8, 2023 -- Donald Trump flips out at midnight over his allegedly forthcoming federal indictment
 

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Jack Smith belongs in the funny farm too along with all of the other lying commie retarded nutcases including duhprick…Rubber room bound duhprick…
Wtf are YOU doing here, you lying cocksucker? I thought you "don't read" any of my posts or watch any of the videos therein? Yeah, JACK SMITH belongs in the funny farm, says, the fucking moron who was babbling about "biblical" voter fraud exposes and multiple "reinstatements," whatta fucking goof...

Oh, btw, here's another story/video for you ignore, after entering a thread that I started for that "express" purpose:


Special Prosecutor Meets With New Grand Jury In Florida To Talk To Trump Witnesses​


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Special prosecutor Jack Smith traveled to South Florida this week to get testimony in his ongoing investigation into Donald Trump. According to reports, this likely means that Smith is trying to wrap up a few "loose ends" before ultimately issuing indictments in the case. This move is a bit unusual, as the grand jury that Smith met with is NOT the one from DC, and is instead a federal grand jury that has been empaneled in Miami. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains what we know.

*This transcript was generated by a third-party transcription software company, so please excuse any typos. So obviously we've got some big major developments that have been happening this week with the ongoing documents investigation into Donald Trump. Uh, this morning news report said that Mark Meadows has agreed to plead guilty to certain charges in exchange for flipping on Donald Trump. So Mark Meadows may have a plea deal. We're still waiting on more information for that. Uh, we got Jack Smith going down to Florida to meet with a grand jury in Miami that nobody knew existed up to this point. Like to me, that's probably the biggest one. Of course, we've got the Mar-a-Lago server room flooded by the guy draining the pool, cuz I guess he drained it into the server room because that's a totally real thing that'll happen. But it's that Miami grand jury that I think has not gotten the attention that it deserves. The special prosecutor who has his grand jury in DC working on the documents case went down to Miami and suddenly we learn, oh my God, there's another grand jury impaneled in Miami looking at the documents case. So you've got the one in dc, you've got the one in Miami. Uh, it, it does say the one in Miami is a federal grand jury, not a state grand jury. And there is a big distinction there. Um, but the question is, why, why are there two grand juries? Why are they in two separate locations, especially if they are both federal grand juries? So the reporting could be inaccurate. It could be a state grand jury and they could be prepared to bring state charges against Donald Trump, in which case he will probably immediately get pardoned by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. So I don't think that's a good route. If they want to bring state charges, they're gonna have to watch as DeSantis pardons Trump before we can even go to trial. But maybe that's part of it. Maybe they know they can get him on, uh, state charges and maybe they want DeSantis to have to pardon him, you know, to show the public look at how corrupt these bastards are. I, I don't know. That seems a little political, but certainly a possibility. But we've got all kinds of things happening here and, and the news is kind of flying out fast and furious to a point where it's difficult to keep up. But these are major developments. Of course, we're getting the reports that indictments are, are imminent at this point. You know, basically ever since I think about Tuesday afternoon, we've gotten those reports like indictments are coming. They could come tomorrow, they could come this week, they may come over the weekend. We don't know. That may have been one of the things, by the way, that Donald Trump's lawyers were meeting with officials at the DOJ to discuss. We know they wanted to make sure there were no indictments, but if the DOJ told him, yeah, we're going to indict your guy, they may have worked out the details under which they would do that, because you don't just want to Go into Mar-a-Lago, start breaking down doors and haul the man out in handcuffs in his underwear. I mean, I'm sure we'd all think that is pretty funny, but they're not gonna let Trump do that. They have to arrange for him to be arraigned and booked and all of that. So that could be what took place at that meeting on Monday. Again, lots of information out there, lots of new developments this week. But I think that grand jury in Miami, that's the one we need to focus on, this secret thing that has been happening, that has been investigating.
 

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Jack Smith belongs in the funny farm too along with all of the other lying commie retarded nutcases including duhprick…Rubber room bound duhprick…
You were SAYING, you brain dead, always wrong, gullible cocksucker? Within the hour, you'll probably get an email saying, "Your POTUS NEEDS you help now, more than EVER, to fight this WITCH HUNT!!!!"

Send it IN, Dipshit, THIS will be the day when things LOOKED their darkest, but the inevitable Road To Reinstatement began!!!!

Choke on Glazed Piggy's Porcine Pecker, you fucking moron. :arrowhead :arrowhead :arrowhead :arrowhead :arrowhead :arrowhead :arrowhead :arrowhead
 

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? buttfucking at its best.
one , two Freddy coming for u
Look, boys and girls, Stevie Ray is trying, "la, la, la, la, I can't HEAR you, if I don't acknowledge that his dumb ass is getting arrested AGAIN, it isn't real.

Yeah, you RUN with that, you stupid Nazi prick.

Donald Trump Indicted Again!!!​


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Opps, he did it again!!!! #trump #donaldtrump #pence #crime #president #rondesantis #joebiden
 

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