I've been there a long time. Always got paid fast, made a successful withdrawal yesterday ( the norm). They aren't an "A" book. They treat me great. I even get a free half-point off of 7. I don't like their props. I frequently get the best line there. I don't think they will give the half to new customers. I can get it for 5 Dimes. They are long established. I never heard of a slow-pay. C/S isn't great, but not terrible.
I like them greatly, but they may not fit a new customer. They treat their old ones fine. I can bet stuff there at -110, that would be -125 at Pinnacle.
Bottom line is they pay. They are mid-sized. I feel safe there. I wouldn't put them in my top five to a new guy. I have dozens of outs.
I like them greatly, but they may not fit a new customer. They treat their old ones fine. I can bet stuff there at -110, that would be -125 at Pinnacle.
Bottom line is they pay. They are mid-sized. I feel safe there. I wouldn't put them in my top five to a new guy. I have dozens of outs.
lil mr wager web is paying all the people he has "UCKED" now ...
Ale,
The reason is that lil mr johnson (Who is NOT really johnson at all) is getting wacked by certin networks right now is due to the fact that he has walked on all the people that have made him who he is today!
It is "ALL" coming around as you well know , HE WILL NEED SEVERAL NEW INVESTERS BY THE END OF THE YEAR , BET ON THAT !
ENJOY!!
Ale,
The reason is that lil mr johnson (Who is NOT really johnson at all) is getting wacked by certin networks right now is due to the fact that he has walked on all the people that have made him who he is today!
It is "ALL" coming around as you well know , HE WILL NEED SEVERAL NEW INVESTERS BY THE END OF THE YEAR , BET ON THAT !
ENJOY!!
Alejocruz said:
Areeff-
Good to see you in a thread about these guys. You are one of the first to expose them (by their own statements) for sitting on a line, waiting for the outcome, then trying to welch on the bet. I always felt the truth was more like: they came in the morning. saw a big winner in the daily totals. looked for an excuse to get out of paying. made fools of themselves on the boards.
oldmanwplasticfurniture-
Sounds like you've got some inside info about how the place is rotting from the inside out. It's certainly gone downhill from its heyday. This is what happens when you have a boy doing a man's job without any parental supervision.
Your 'tagline' says banned. Feel free to shoot me a private message across the street at major.
Good to see you in a thread about these guys. You are one of the first to expose them (by their own statements) for sitting on a line, waiting for the outcome, then trying to welch on the bet. I always felt the truth was more like: they came in the morning. saw a big winner in the daily totals. looked for an excuse to get out of paying. made fools of themselves on the boards.
oldmanwplasticfurniture-
Sounds like you've got some inside info about how the place is rotting from the inside out. It's certainly gone downhill from its heyday. This is what happens when you have a boy doing a man's job without any parental supervision.
Your 'tagline' says banned. Feel free to shoot me a private message across the street at major.
I'm back..
And ready to expose the scum and praise the great... Lost my password for awhile.
The fact that dave is worried someone is beating his 30c or 40c props shows how crappy of bookmakers they had. probably got the kid in charge who moved the nadal line the wrong way.. I can see dave getting mad for people playing on the free $25 prop but i dont think thats the problem. This is awfully strange because i know a guy who plays at cbs and only plays the free $25 prop and noone has ever said anything heh.
And ready to expose the scum and praise the great... Lost my password for awhile.
The fact that dave is worried someone is beating his 30c or 40c props shows how crappy of bookmakers they had. probably got the kid in charge who moved the nadal line the wrong way.. I can see dave getting mad for people playing on the free $25 prop but i dont think thats the problem. This is awfully strange because i know a guy who plays at cbs and only plays the free $25 prop and noone has ever said anything heh.
I still like this book, only not as much lately. No more NBA overnites= bad, but Sky doesn't either. I could scalp out there with Pinny's +120 totals and their free half-point ( which few get). I called some clerk there in the afternoon to place the free prop bet, and asked about the overnite NBA. He told me he has a game at 10:30, that wasn't what I wanted, I dropped it. That's a good sign, they have learned they can't do this.
I agree they are showing some bad signs, I'm keeping it low.
The juice on props is high, should be enough to assure profit.
They write some bad ones. Last year they had a prop on Rodman rejoining the NBA by some date.
It was something like: " will Rodman be signed by an NBA team". I'm going from memory.
The no was like +700, that got pounded to about the yes being +700, before they pulled it. They must have got killed on it. I missed out figuring some crap team would sign him, to put butts in seats.
The free prop is nice, but you have to call it in, that seems desperate also. Put it on website. A lot of impossible contests also. Flash graphics showing wagers taken, and casino winners.
Advertising here is also questionable, presumably most here are much better than average.
I've won a lot from them, always paid quick. I've always deposited with NT, but I've withdrawn large by Fed-ex check many times.
They used to offer one free fed-ex, or Neteller a month. Now they offer unlimited free Neteller, for any amount ! I use it, I keep only what I need there to bet with, and do the NT shuffle constantly.
They only pay out via NT the amount deposited that way ( total). I've got a large cushion there because of previous checks. My question is why they prefer to pay $40 for Fed-ex, instead of cheaper NT costs, seems like bad business.
I agree with you guys, something is weird here, I see a lot of bad signs. They even give me a free half-point on/off 7 in football, and up to $5,000, plus NBA totals. I used to approach those limits, but not now. I'm leery !
Things seemed to go down when Tony Marsoni left, then the thing with CBS broadcasting. Something doesn't seem right. I'm sad because I really like this book, but can't ignore what I see.
I agree they are showing some bad signs, I'm keeping it low.
The juice on props is high, should be enough to assure profit.
They write some bad ones. Last year they had a prop on Rodman rejoining the NBA by some date.
It was something like: " will Rodman be signed by an NBA team". I'm going from memory.
The no was like +700, that got pounded to about the yes being +700, before they pulled it. They must have got killed on it. I missed out figuring some crap team would sign him, to put butts in seats.
The free prop is nice, but you have to call it in, that seems desperate also. Put it on website. A lot of impossible contests also. Flash graphics showing wagers taken, and casino winners.
Advertising here is also questionable, presumably most here are much better than average.
I've won a lot from them, always paid quick. I've always deposited with NT, but I've withdrawn large by Fed-ex check many times.
They used to offer one free fed-ex, or Neteller a month. Now they offer unlimited free Neteller, for any amount ! I use it, I keep only what I need there to bet with, and do the NT shuffle constantly.
They only pay out via NT the amount deposited that way ( total). I've got a large cushion there because of previous checks. My question is why they prefer to pay $40 for Fed-ex, instead of cheaper NT costs, seems like bad business.
I agree with you guys, something is weird here, I see a lot of bad signs. They even give me a free half-point on/off 7 in football, and up to $5,000, plus NBA totals. I used to approach those limits, but not now. I'm leery !
Things seemed to go down when Tony Marsoni left, then the thing with CBS broadcasting. Something doesn't seem right. I'm sad because I really like this book, but can't ignore what I see.
General-
What's going on here? My post from last night is missing and this afternoon my account was temporarily disabled.
First you guys moved complaints about advertisers to a separate forum, to reduce the number of view/hits.
Now, you have deleted a post critical of the book's management (without offering me a chance to alter or defend parts you considered controversial).
Please restore my post, or send me a copy with an explanation.
What's going on here? My post from last night is missing and this afternoon my account was temporarily disabled.
First you guys moved complaints about advertisers to a separate forum, to reduce the number of view/hits.
Now, you have deleted a post critical of the book's management (without offering me a chance to alter or defend parts you considered controversial).
Please restore my post, or send me a copy with an explanation.
Email me Java ASAP. I mailed you and it bounced back.
TheGeneral@therx.com & generalpete@hotmail.com
TheGeneral@therx.com & generalpete@hotmail.com
General-
Okay, I emailed you. Not sure why you got bounce-back, since I got email from the RX forum server itself. The only reason I can think of for you getting blocked would be if I had received a virus/spam from your IP address and it got blocked. If you get bounce-back again, try sending from your hotmail account.
Okay, I emailed you. Not sure why you got bounce-back, since I got email from the RX forum server itself. The only reason I can think of for you getting blocked would be if I had received a virus/spam from your IP address and it got blocked. If you get bounce-back again, try sending from your hotmail account.
Areeff-
Once again your powers of observation are unmatched.
The existence of a entire forum section dedicated to "Disputes With RX Advertisers" already reduces the number of eyeballs viewing potentially valuable criticism, by taking it off the main forum. It's a subtle form of censorship.
I was hoping my post might elicit a message from oldmanwplasticfurniture, who seemed to have been banned and may have some interesting inside information.
There seems to be a fine line between valid criticism and that which gets you banned.
Once again your powers of observation are unmatched.
The existence of a entire forum section dedicated to "Disputes With RX Advertisers" already reduces the number of eyeballs viewing potentially valuable criticism, by taking it off the main forum. It's a subtle form of censorship.
I was hoping my post might elicit a message from oldmanwplasticfurniture, who seemed to have been banned and may have some interesting inside information.
There seems to be a fine line between valid criticism and that which gets you banned.
Wagerweb update:
PROS:I really like this book, nice website, great CS, 20% bonus, loyality pts. covert into $ then it automaticly gets added to your account every monday.
CONS: no overnight lines, when using Neteller they won't let me withdrawl more than my original deposit with neteller...that one I don't understand, CS rep said I can get the rest thru WU, MG or bank wire ( but no more fed-ex payouts?)
Why cant they send it all to neteller??
its a circle jerk for me as I am just going to put it back into neteller but now I have to pay for bank wire and wait until it gets into my bank acct and then send to neteller and wait 5 days for it clear.
Max Value
PROS:I really like this book, nice website, great CS, 20% bonus, loyality pts. covert into $ then it automaticly gets added to your account every monday.
CONS: no overnight lines, when using Neteller they won't let me withdrawl more than my original deposit with neteller...that one I don't understand, CS rep said I can get the rest thru WU, MG or bank wire ( but no more fed-ex payouts?)
Why cant they send it all to neteller??
its a circle jerk for me as I am just going to put it back into neteller but now I have to pay for bank wire and wait until it gets into my bank acct and then send to neteller and wait 5 days for it clear.Max Value
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Max-
A possible explanation for the part you don't understand:
By limiting quick payouts to your deposit amount, they effectively raise the bar for anyone becoming a net-winner and make it more difficult for themselves to become net losers. The extra effort to withdraw will likely cause some to play a bit more with their winnings. This also gives the book extra time to check for collaborating players cashing out their winnings together. Since collaboration is prohibited, this gives them the opportunity to withhold winnings/bonuses until they can check on all the players cashing out. (Areeff might have some thoughts on this.)
There are probably other business reasons for having such delays, like controlling the cash flow. If they run into a temporary cash flow problem, they can delay the remaining payout another day or two and blame it on the bank or some clerical problem. (Check's in the mail.)
A possible explanation for the part you don't understand:
By limiting quick payouts to your deposit amount, they effectively raise the bar for anyone becoming a net-winner and make it more difficult for themselves to become net losers. The extra effort to withdraw will likely cause some to play a bit more with their winnings. This also gives the book extra time to check for collaborating players cashing out their winnings together. Since collaboration is prohibited, this gives them the opportunity to withhold winnings/bonuses until they can check on all the players cashing out. (Areeff might have some thoughts on this.)
There are probably other business reasons for having such delays, like controlling the cash flow. If they run into a temporary cash flow problem, they can delay the remaining payout another day or two and blame it on the bank or some clerical problem. (Check's in the mail.)
