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UIC-DePaul over 128 2**
I think the national tv games this week -- in which UIC was hammered by Duke and DePaul struggled down the stretch against a deliberate Northwestern team -- have given us value in this number. The scoring averages for these teams reflect the teams they've played so far this year rather than the style they each prefer to play. DePaul has played three teams that play a little faster than average...Northern Illinois, IUPUI and Notre Dame. The totals in all three of those games were in the 150s. UIC has played three teams that play a little faster than the norm...Milwaukee, Georgia Tech and Duke. The GT game was an aberration in that the game was played fast but both teams shot in the 30 %s. UIC shot a season-low 34% in that one. The other two games, the totals were in the 140s. The fact this is a city rivalry might raise the "pressure" a little bit, but I expect both teams to play to their strengths...making plays on the offensive end. Probably will be a fair amount of one on one shotmaking (aka street ball) in this one. Going into the game Wed. vs. Northwestern (and the stats from that one skewed DP's numbers), the Blue Demons were a 47% off/44% def. team. UIC has struggled shooting the ball this year as they adjust to a new point guard who just isn't setting up banks and the front court guys nearly as well as Bailey did the last three years. But McGee is getting better and they should shoot a better number today against a DP team that is just an average defensive team so far. (I do believe they will get better defensively though because Leitao will drive improvement in that area). The bottom line of this play is this: if you rely on the statistics to make this play, you probably won't see much of an over....the offensive ppg for these teams totals 131. However, I believe both teams like to play fast when they can...and I believe there will be a fair number of run-outs on both ends in this game...and with willing participants who want to both run a bit and play a bit faster than they have in most of their games thus far, we will see 60 shots for each team. With just 40% shooting for the two teams, which I would make the worst case scenario, combined with 10 made treys and 22 FTs (which are lower than the averages for these teams), we get to 128. So I'll bet these teams score a bit more than this worst case scenario.
 

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Marquette -1 vs. Arizona
This Zona team hasn't played a defensive team in Marquette's class yet and their poor shot selection and mediocre defense will do them in here against a Marquette team that is balanced inside and out and has a dead-eye gunner in Diener who will make the Cats pay for any defensive lapses on the perimeter. Remember when Lute cared about D more than O? Where did that Lute go?

Oklahoma +9, -108 (bought 1/2) vs. Duke (NYC)
Duke's lack of depth..particularly in the front court...will be tested against a Sooners team that will run with the Dukies yet bang in the paint. Sooners a very good defensive team that will make Duke work for their points and likely will win the rebounding battle. Outright upset will be no surprise.
 

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SE Missouri State-Southern Illinois over 132
Two teams that shoot pretty well (SEMO 48% home/SIU 46% away) and each team's offensive strengths will play to the opponents' weaknesses. SEMO gets a significant amount of points from its two forwards, 6-7 Golson and 6-6 Gonner. Golson was OVC Player of the Week this week after averaging 15 poins and 10.5 rebounds. He leads the OVC in offensive rebounding. Gonner leads the team in scoring at almost 21 ppg. These two guys will give SIU some matchup problems. SIU is a 3-guard team with middling front court players....which is likely why SIU is a mediocre 46% D even though they defend the trey at an outstanding 26%. They are obviously giving up a lot of points inside (or at least inside the arc). Even if SIU tries to pack it in against these guys, SEMO has a three point gunner in Hale who is 16/26 this season from trey. SIU is a perimeter team with most of the scoring from its guards and SEMO is only a 46% D and 38% from trey, leading me to believe the 3 SIU guards will get a lot of good looks. SEMO goes for 67 ppg and SIU 69. The matchups favoring the offenses lead me to think both teams will go past their norms here. Pace should also be uptempo. Think there are several points of value here and I'll take em.
 

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Great post I will jump on your UIC over...Im leaning on Mq But want to add some Info on S Ill game.....I picked up from M Jack that SE Mo has a bunch of banged up players.

<!--StartFragment --> James White will miss the game with a knee injury that could sideline him for the year. Ketshner Guerrier suffered a knee injury during shoot around last Saturday and will be sidelined for at least six weeks.

Mike Nelke suffered a cut in his mouth that required three stitches and a bruised thigh in the Montana game. MRI results show he has a small fracture in his left wrist, but he will continue to play. Waylon Francis suffered a dislocated finger on his left hand in practice on Dec. 3 but will start against SIU.

Cody Lewis missed the Central Methodist with a bruised back suffered in practice. He is probable vs. SIU .

So have to use our heads will this hurt SE Mo scoring or help S Ill scoring because of lake of D...
Good stuff Doooooooo
 

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Coast,
Thanks for the feedback.

I like your Marquette pick-Arizona has too many scoring droughts to back them here and Marquette is the better coached team,period.I am looking at your totals and I like your analysis-I will throw some pocket change at them-after all it's Christmas and we all need more money to spend.

I noticed you said you post at another site-I hope you will post here more as I look forward to exchanging views with you.Good luck.
 

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From Grant Wahl at SI

Here's another play regarding Marquette. This guy wrote an article based on this time of year when the teams who just completed finals will be flat. An earlier game featuring Wake Forest and Temple seemed to bear this out, as Temple covered the +8 easily. Looks like Arizona has only JUST finished their finals for this semester yesterday:

"...Arizona vs Marquette (Dec. 18 in Milwaukee). Both teams will have just finished exams, but facing Marquette on the road a day after finals end won't be a cakewalk for the Wildcats. ADVANTAGE: Marquette..."

More games for today are:

Oklahoma State vs UNLV (Dec. 18 in Las Vegas). Though both teams will just be coming off exams, OSU finds itself in a position similar to Arizona's: playing its first post-finals game in a credible opponent's home gym. ADVANTAGE: UNLV.

Gonzaga vs Georgia Tech (Dec. 18 in Las Vegas). The Zags will be dead, having just finished exams two days earlier, while Tech will be flying high with two games under its belt since its exam period. ADVANTAGE: Georgia Tech.

Kentucky vs Louisville (Dec. 18 in Louisville, Ky.). The play could be sloppier than expected since both teams will be coming off exams. Louisville's finals period ends two days earlier than UK's, however, giving Rick Pitino's team more prep time. Plus, the Cards are at home. ADVANTAGE: Louisville

Good Luck on all your picks today :digit:
 

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just my opinion.....
i'd be careful if betting on "students" taking finals. i find it hard pressed to believe these student athletes are anything more than relieved to get finals over. i would never let that angle invade my #'s.
even if you like the game anyways i can't change my rationale based on that.

any sports psychologists on the rx???
 

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Southpaw said:
just my opinion.....
i'd be careful if betting on "students" taking finals. i find it hard pressed to believe these student athletes are anything more than relieved to get finals over. i would never let that angle invade my #'s.
even if you like the game anyways i can't change my rationale based on that.

any sports psychologists on the rx???

I really like G. Tech against Gonzaga. Man, do they remind me of those UK/Arkansas teams of the mid 90's. They are SO athletic and pressure the ball so well. Look how hot they've been since march of this yr. Only thing that concerns me is the late night west coast thing. G Tech very underrated upfront. All they have to do is contain Turiaf. He HAS to have a huge game for the Zags to win.
 

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Are you kidding, players don't take final exams, they show up and put their name on top of the test and turn it in.
 

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wonderdog...thanks for the injury update. I was aware of those injuries, but deemed them irrelevant to my play so I didn't mention them. White hasn't played a minute all year. Nelke is a backup guard who gets double digit minutes but hardly ever scores more than 4 points. Lewis is a benchwarmer who plays a few minutes in blow outs. Won't affect SEMO offensively at all. Thanks for bringing them up though. Always appreciate making sure I've covered every angle.
 

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Coast,
Thanks for the totals.I do not spend much time capping totals,but you are obviously very thorough with your analysis.Hope you will post here more often and thanks again.
 

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2-2 yesterday in my first posts on this board, for a +0.8 unit with both totals covering. (All plays for one unit except where noted). I actually don't play that many totals (less than 10% of all plays) but this must be the weekend that they're looking good. TIme for a limbo today:

Miami-SMS under 131-1/2
If we consider the stats only from the board teams each has played and throw out the cupcake games, we find that these teams have averaged 107 and 104 total shots in their games with 42% and 40% defenses and 43%/45% offenses. Though Miami has shot 45% in their board games and 42% on the road, I don't expect them to shoot to their norms today dusting off the game fog of their 11-day layoff. And when the shots aren't dropping, Charlie Coles makes sure his boys work the clock on every possession and get very good shots. SMS sometimes wants to play a bit faster than Miami, but don't think they'll be able to do so against a Mi-O team that will play in your face defense and control tempo. We might have a little value in this number based on SMS' 100+ points in their last game against a no-D Troy team. This game will be totally different. This one looks like a grinder to me. Four of the five Miami lined games have gone under this number. I think this one does too.
 

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Missouri -6 2h vs. IndianaThough I wouldn't normally bet these teams, any home favorite being down 15 at half and -6 for the 2nd half is a near automatic play for me. Few home favorites lose by double digits. Tigers for one unit.
 

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Missouri easy but SMS-Miami shoot lights out 2nd half for 84 point second half, including 15 pt. last 45 second foul fest...doing in the under by 1/2 point. 1-1, -0.1 today. Next..
 

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Both early bets tonight are with double digit dogs against undisciplined favorites. In addition to a unit on St. Bonnie (thoughts posted on Kap's thread; down early), also going to drop a unit tonight on La. Tech +11 at Memphis. Memphis looks like a team in crisis and even with Banks back tonight after his one game suspension (now we know Calipari's definition of an indefinite suspension. It equals one game), I'm not sure Memphis gets his head together so quickly after the total meltdown on Saturday. Calipari has his hands full with this bunch as he deals with the classic problem of only having one ball to satisfy ball-hungry players (of which Banks is clearly the worst). Shot selection often atrocious and defense too often too casual. LaTech bangs the boards and Millsaps is a future NBA draft choice.

Also looking at South Alabama against a So. Miss team making its virgin road game, Arizona State, and Oral Roberts. Will be back if any of those become plays.
 

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