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I wonder what will happen once the French and Russians start selling shedloads of military kit to these places.
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Court boycott hits US aid budget


US soldiers are safe in countries that have not ratified the ICC statute
The US House of Representatives has voted to stop aid to countries that do not grant American soldiers immunity from prosecution for war crimes.
The bill is aimed at the International Criminal Court, described by House leader Tom DeLay as a "kangaroo court".

It adds tough financial penalties to a ban on military aid imposed last year.

The ICC, which began operating in The Hague last year, can try individuals for war crimes committed after 1 July 2002 anywhere in the world.

The US has signed immunity deals with 90 countries, but last month dropped a request for the UN to extend a two-year exemption for US personnel, because of lack of support.


The legislation is part of a $19.4bn foreign aid bill for 2005 that must be adopted by the Senate and signed by President George W Bush before it becomes law.

It is $1.9bn more than this year - but also $1.9bn short of Mr Bush's request.


The bill also:

cancels $25,000 in aid to US ally Saudi Arabia - triggering the loss of millions of dollars in discounts of military purchases and training

offers $1.25bn to countries moving towards democratic reforms

pledges $2.2bn to help fight Aids in Africa and other poor regions

gives Sudan $311m to help the victims and refugees from the fighting in the western region of Darfur

gives Pakistan, an ally in the US "war on terror," $300m and Poland - an ally of the US in Iraq - $66m.
'Mr Annan's court'

The Republican-controlled House voted 241-166 to impose the new curbs.

Mr DeLay, a Republican, described the ICC as "[UN Secretary General] Kofi Annan's kangaroo court" - a "shady idea... of laughable legitimacy".

"The ICC presents a clear and present danger to the war on terror and to Americans that are fighting it all over the world," Mr DeLay said.

But opponents of the bill said it would punish US allies, including Jordan, Turkey, South Africa, Kenya, Mexico and Peru.


But the US does not recognise it , saying its forces could be subjected to politically-motivated prosecution.


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US blocks aid over ICC row


The US fears its soldiers could be vulnerable to malicious prosecution
The United States has suspended over $47m in military aid to 35 countries that have not signed deals to grant American soldiers immunity from prosecution for war crimes.

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the protection of US citizens from the threat of being hauled before the new International Criminal Court (ICC) was a significant matter in relations with other countries.

The US does not recognise the ICC, saying its forces could be subjected to politically-motivated prosecution.

One country which is particularly affected in Colombia, which receives over $500m a year in US military assistance.

The new court, based in The Hague in the Netherlands, can try individuals for war crimes committed after 1 July anywhere in the world.

Washington has concluded bilateral agreements with more than 50 nations to secure exemption for US troops.

Human Rights Watch has accused the US of bullying tactics in its efforts to conclude exemption deals.

"US officials are engaged in a worldwide campaign pressing small, vulnerable and often fragile democratic governments," it said in a letter to US Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Balance

Nato members and other key allies - such as Israel, Japan, South Korea, Australia and New Zealand - are exempt from any penalty if they refuse.

In implementing the act, we'll need to balance our broader bilateral interests with substantial consideration to the risk posed to US citizens

Richard Boucher
State Department spokesman

Others face cuts in military aid, under the American Service members Protection Act approved last year by the US Congress.

However Mr Boucher said the US administration might waive the aid suspension for countries regarded as crucial to Washington's strategic interests.

"In implementing the act, we'll need to balance our broader bilateral interests with substantial consideration to the risk posed to US citizens... by the potential for politically motivated charges," he said.

Drugs fight

Colombia could be a case in point, since US support in the fight against the cocaine trade means it receives more funding than any other Latin American country.

It has received almost all the aid allocated for 2003, but a halt to 2004 military funding would be crippling.

State Department figures suggest that of the $575m requested by the Bush administration for next year, about $112m would be blocked.

"You can bet that all these problems are going to be cleared up," said Defence Minister Marta Lucia Ramirez.

Colombia says that a 1962 agreement already provides immunity for the hundreds of US personnel training anti-narcotics squads in the country.

But Mr Boucher said that treaty did not provide the exemption required by law.


Balkans dilemma

The BBC's Gabriel Partos says that the American demand for immunity from war-crimes prosecution has created a particular dilemma in the Balkans.

South-east European countries welcome Washington's military aid, but are also under pressure from the EU - a strong backer of the ICC - not to conclude immunity deals.

Bulgaria, which has not signed a deal, was told on Tuesday that half of its promised $20m in aid would be suspended.

Bulgarian officials said that discussions on the issue were continuing, and did not rule out the eventual signing of a bilateral agreement.

Croatia, another EU candidate state, has refused to sign such an agreement for the time being.

Others, including Romania, Albania, and Bosnia-Hercegovina, have granted immunity to US forces.


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Eek, If I understand the direction of your comments, you're saying that the US should just give money away to countries - gratis - no strings attached!

Why shouldn't the United States make sure that its "allies" will support it in return for US support? No matter how powerful or careful you are, it always pays to CYA.

Your idyllic thinking is not realistic!
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Your idyllic thinking is not realistic!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Realistic, now theres a sweet word.
Quotes from the aforementioned articles.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> However Mr Boucher said the US administration might waive the aid suspension for countries regarded as crucial to Washington's strategic interests.

"In implementing the act, we'll need to balance our broader bilateral interests with substantial consideration to the risk posed to US citizens... by the potential for politically motivated charges," he said.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Colombia could be a case in point, since US support in the fight against the cocaine trade means it receives more funding than any other Latin American country.

It has received almost all the aid allocated for 2003, but a halt to 2004 military funding would be crippling.

State Department figures suggest that of the $575m requested by the Bush administration for next year, about $112m would be blocked.

"You can bet that all these problems are going to be cleared up," said Defence Minister Marta Lucia Ramirez. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So basically, the 'Act' will be ignored, which is reality.
The only 'idyllic thinking' is in the mind of whoever wasted the time and money on this 'Act'.

And thats BEFORE these countries start buying military kit from other sources...
 

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All in the name of "freedom", I suppose.

Out leaders are an embarrassment to humanity.
 

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Eeek - One more try -
The French are artists at practicing this - so I'll quote something Charles DeGaul said in the 50's when he gave the US military bases in France the boot; "There are no national allies, only national self interests!"

What is in the US self interest, what is best for the US, is what the US should do! This isn't hypocrasy on the national level, only what is in this nations self interests in a dog eat dog world.

My dear old dad said it best when I wanted to scrounge a buck or two - "What have you done for me lately?"
 

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The act is pointless, the Administration will just make things up as it goes along anyway.

"Security reasons" "American interests" etc etc.

Why did they flipping bother
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Is it for US public consumption and propaganda?
It has absolutely no other realistic purpose for its existence as far as the real world is concerned.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> What is in the US self interest, what is best for the US, is what the US should do! This isn't hypocrisy on the national level, only what is in this nations self interests in a dog eat dog world.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fair enuf.
You are at war in the middle east as a part of your empire building/expansion.
(WMD etc was just an excuse, a red herring.)

This also explains why you have no real allies in Iraq btw. Your 'Allies' are unassing the place for relatively flimsy reasons.

I suppose history will record this era as one of corporate colonialism vs Islam in future years.
 

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Ahhh! Now I see - you're just a basher.
No matter what the USA does it'll always be wrong in your eyes.

Empire building - hmphhhh - what a joke!
 

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"Your 'Allies' are unassing the place for relatively flimsy reasons.

B: Hey eek, is that a typo up there, or do I have a new word? (unassing)
 

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