United States Confirms: 2014 was Hottest Year on Record - And AK Confirms Conservatives are Retarded

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Whew. So you realize how utterly stupid it was to post we've only been here for 2,000 years, and will stop with the utterly stupid, irrelevant comparisons. My work is done. :toast:


If you talk about man as we know him today you are referring to homo sapiens, but evidence of humans as the genus Homo goes back further than that.
The genus Homo originated around 2.3 to 2.4 million years ago in Africa, with Homo sapiens being forming around 200,000 years ago.

The earliest evidence is bones and other tools.
The earliest tool evidence was found in what is now Ethiopia, with tools as old as 2.5 million years (this being slightly before the genus homo), these are called the Oldowan Stones, and other tools found from later times.

It was only around 10,000 years ago that people really made what we call settlements, prior to that they were more nomadic hunters and gatherers. Around 10,000 this all changed and we have evidence to show that agriculture was developed, but our evidence of actual settlements is dated around 6,000 years ago in around the Nile valley in Egypt and into Mesopotamia - this would be Iraq, Syria, Turkey, and SW Iran.
 

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So AK... are you backing out of the bet now? No faith in those scientists?
 

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So AK... are you backing out of the bet now? No faith in those scientists?

Yea, I'm talking about global warming here. Not United States weather, lol. And yes, I have faith that scientists know more about science than you and people like scottcarter and Sheriff Joe. Not even a debate, lol.
 

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Yea, I'm talking about global warming here. Not United States weather, lol. And yes, I have faith that scientists know more about science than you and people like scottcarter and Sheriff Joe. Not even a debate, lol.

Several global warming scientists predicted that by 2020 the US will be dry as a bone, the sun blocked out by the decayed topsoil, and that Americans will flood Mexico looking for work, etc.... Surely you would agree with them, since they are educated and smarter them all of us.

so wanna take that bet? Im only talking about the US breaking the record... not that the sun would be blocked out, and we would have famine and forced to move to Mexico, etc... just a simple record breaking year of warmth.
 

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Several global warming scientists predicted that by 2020 the US will be dry as a bone, the sun blocked out by the decayed topsoil, and that Americans will flood Mexico looking for work, etc.... Surely you would agree with them, since they are educated and smarter them all of us.

so wanna take that bet? Im only talking about the US breaking the record... not that the sun would be blocked out, and we would have famine and forced to move to Mexico, etc... just a simple record breaking year of warmth.

I don't care about past predictions, they are pretty much meaningless. Just like long term economic predictions. We have real data that shows real warming. Has nothing to do with predictions. Predicting surface temperatures, storms, and how high trillions upon trillions of gallons of water will rise is not an easy task. There are 10s of thousands of scientists and 100s of thousands of articles, papers, quotes, etc from the past two decades. You will easily be able to find quotes that are fabricated, data that might not have been correct, predictions that were wrong, etc.

The real data confirms the Earth is warming. They predicted that much, that's all I care about.
 

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I don't care about past predictions, they are pretty much meaningless. Just like long term economic predictions. We have real data that shows real warming. Has nothing to do with predictions. Predicting surface temperatures, storms, and how high trillions upon trillions of gallons of water will rise is not an easy task. There are 10s of thousands of scientists and 100s of thousands of articles, papers, quotes, etc from the past two decades. You will easily be able to find quotes that are fabricated, data that might not have been correct, predictions that were wrong, etc.

The real data confirms the Earth is warming. They predicted that much, that's all I care about.

Like I said before.... the earth cools and warms, been going on for millions of years. Can man change the weather? I don't think so......
 

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Ooops. NASA now “38% sure” 2014 was warmest year on record

POSTED AT 9:31 AM ON JANUARY 18, 2015 BY JAZZ SHAW

We were recently informed by the blaring of progressive trumpets and flapping of angelic wings that evil energy users had set a new record, with 2014 being the warmest year in recorded history. The end is clearly near, so you should all begin getting your affairs in order unless President Obama can rail through his new methane regulations. It is, as Mother Jones described it, a moment of truth. Well folks, what can I say? We had a good run.

But wait! The phrase “moment of truth” ends with a rather important word. How “true” is this claim? The folks at NASA who declared the doomsday scenario have rather sheepishly admitted that under further scrutiny, they’re at least 38% sure it might have been true.

The Nasa climate scientists who claimed 2014 set a new record for global warmth last night admitted they were only 38 per cent sure this was true…

The claim made headlines around the world, but yesterday it emerged that GISS’s analysis – based on readings from more than 3,000 measuring stations worldwide – is subject to a margin of error. Nasa admits this means it is far from certain that 2014 set a record at all.
Yet the Nasa press release failed to mention this, as well as the fact that the alleged ‘record’ amounted to an increase over 2010, the previous ‘warmest year’, of just two-hundredths of a degree – or 0.02C. The margin of error is said by scientists to be approximately 0.1C – several times as much.


What’s worse, as you read through the experts’ detailed explanation, is that even if they are correct and it was the warmest year on record, it beat the old mark by .01 degree centigrade. That’s one one hundredth of a degree. (With a margin of error a full order of magnitude larger.) Taking that margin into account, they go on to admit that the other two years in contention – 2005 and 2010 – are all so close that they don’t know which of the three is actually the warmest.

This ties into the other side of the story which never seems to make its way onto the pages of Mother Jones or in the CNN chyrons. If you are having trouble figuring out which of the years in the past fifteen or twenty is hotter or cooler, it’s because the planet has stubbornly refused to continue warming since the mid 90s, to the great dismay of the green warriors. And we’ve known this for a couple of years now.

Remember that really scary “hockey stick” graph IPCC used to show that rising atmospheric CO2 concentrations would send global temperatures soaring? And recall all the ballyhoo about CO2 levels reaching a 400 ppm record high? Yet last February even IPCC’s chairman Rajenda Pachuri has admitted that world temperature data has been flat for the past 17 years. And that was after the British media reported that the UK Met Office was projecting a 20-year standstill in global warming by 2017.


It must be because we’ve already done such a bang up job of curbing emissions around the globe and need to do more of the same, right?

“The rise in the surface temperature of Earth has been markedly slower over the last 15 years than in the 20 years before that. And that lull in warming has occurred even as greenhouse gases have accumulated in the atmosphere at a record pace.”

There should be a blaring siren and massive retraction in the New York Times any… day… now.
 

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[h=1]Politics: Climate scientist Dr. Roy Spencer lays the smack to '2014 warmest year ever' nonsense[/h]
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Image Credit: Dr. Roy Spencer via Facebook [h=3]Published by: Dan Calabrese on Monday January 19th, 2015[/h]
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Truth.
Dr. Roy Spencer is a real problem for global warmists. They can't say he's not a climate scientist, because he is. They can't accuse him of taking oil industry money, because all the funding he's ever received has come from the U.S. government - including his work with NASA, NOAA and the Department of Energy.
And they can't refute his arguments, because he knows what he's talking about and they don't. So when he comes across their latest nonsense - this time the claim that 2014 was the warmest year on record - he takes aim and destroys the claim in beautiful fashion:
Science as a methodology for getting closer to the truth has been all but abandoned. It is now just one more tool to achieve political ends.
Reports that 2014 was the “hottest” year on record feed the insatiable appetite the public has for definitive, alarming headlines. It doesn’t matter that even in the thermometer record, 2014 wasn’t the warmest within the margin of error. Who wants to bother with “margin of error”? Journalists went into journalism so they wouldn’t have to deal with such technical mumbo-jumbo. I said this six weeks ago, as did others, but no one cares unless a mainstream news source stumbles upon it and is objective enough to report it.
In what universe does a temperature change that is too small for anyone to feel over a 50 year period become globally significant? Where we don’t know if the global average temperature is 58 or 59 or 60 deg. F, but we are sure that if it increases by 1 or 2 deg. F, that would be a catastrophe?
Where our only truly global temperature measurements, the satellites, are ignored because they don’t show a record warm year in 2014?
In what universe do the climate models built to guide energy policy are not even adjusted to reflect reality, when they over-forecast past warming by a factor of 2 or 3?
And where people have to lie about severe weather getting worse (it hasn’t)? Or where we have totally forgotten that more CO2 is actually good for life on Earth, leading to increased agricultural productivity, and global greening?
It’s the universe where political power and the desire to redistribute wealth have taken control of the public discourse. It’s a global society where people believe we can replace fossil fuels with unicorn farts and antigravity-based energy.
Feelings now trump facts.
At least engineers have to prove their ideas work. The widgets and cell phones and cars and jets and bridges they build either work or they don’t.
In climate science, whichever side is favored by politicians and journalism graduates is the side that wins.
And what about those 97% of scientists who agree? Well, what they all agree on is that if their government climate funding goes away, their careers will end.
Dr. Spencer really cuts to the heart of the matter here: The pushing of global warming orthodoxy is all about money and power, which should be clear to you - even if you don't understand the science - just by watching the behavior of politicians and activists and understanding what typically motivates them.
If global warming is going to cause catastrophe that will devastate life on Earth, then we must act, and that means governments confiscating massive amounts of money and using it to fund new controls on the methods of industry and the everyday habits of people. Whether it's the amount of carbon pumped into the air by smokestacks or the kinds of cars Americans drive, they'll seek to control it using the rationale that without the controls life on Earth is in jeopardy.
Basically, it comes down to giving liberals something to do.
You have to understand that in a liberal's mind, the most terrifying thing imaginable is for government to actually be pared down to what the framers envisioned, because that would mean most of them couldn't hide behind bureaucratic day jobs protected by a public employee union, and would actually have to fend for themselves in the private sector. So they have to make up crises that justify their place on the public payroll, and the confiscation of private-sector wealth to pay their salaries.
What better gambit than one that sees the private sector threatening life itself simply by operating normally, only to have government swoop in and save the world? It matters not that their past predictions have not come true, and that even if their current predictions did come true there is no reason to believe it would cause the kinds of catastrophes they forecast. This is about justifying their existence, and bringing in some of their friends who don't want to have to go out and get real jobs either.
They'd love if they could also use it as a political wedge but that doesn't tend to work too well because the public doesn't buy their nonsense, probably because in spite of all their bluster the public actually hears on occasion from a truth-teller like Dr. Spencer. Even with the media firmly in their corner, it's hard for them to sell utter nonsense to people who don't have an inherent stake in believing it.
 

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Climate scientist Dr. Roy Spencer lays the smack to '2014 warmest year ever' nonsense


Warmest year ever. Sure.

Conveniently forgetting to include the "since we've started tracking weather temperatures" disclaimer...and even then, 2014 still may not be the hottest ever recorded. Otherwise, 100 years of keeping track is a great representation of the millions of years the earth has been here.

Dimocraps rely very heavily upon the stupidity of their minions. Gruber said so himself.
 

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I'm sure it is just total coincidence that the "warming" has been flat for 16 years and magically the new temperature record indicates this is like the warmest year evah!

The people think they are so clever, but their lies are so silly and predictable.
 

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I'm sure it is just total coincidence that the "warming" has been flat for 16 years and magically the new temperature record indicates this is like the warmest year evah!

The people think they are so clever, but their lies are so silly and predictable.

The fact you guys still can't learn the difference between surface temperature and global means temperature is hilarious. You guys are really dumb people.
 

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Politics: Climate scientist Dr. Roy Spencer lays the smack to '2014 warmest year ever' nonsense

Science as a methodology for getting closer to the truth has been all but abandoned. It is now just one more tool to achieve political ends.

Reports that 2014 was the “hottest” year on record feed the insatiable appetite the public has for definitive, alarming headlines. It doesn’t matter that even in the thermometer record, 2014 wasn’t the warmest within the margin of error. Who wants to bother with “margin of error”? Journalists went into journalism so they wouldn’t have to deal with such technical mumbo-jumbo. I said this six weeks ago, as did others, but no one cares unless a mainstream news source stumbles upon it and is objective enough to report it.

It’s the universe where political power and the desire to redistribute wealth have taken control of the public discourse. It’s a global society where people believe we can replace fossil fuels with unicorn farts and antigravity-based energy.

Feelings now trump facts.

At least engineers have to prove their ideas work. The widgets and cell phones and cars and jets and bridges they build either work or they don’t.

In climate science, whichever side is favored by politicians and journalism graduates is the side that wins.

And what about those 97% of scientists who agree? Well, what they all agree on is that if their government climate funding goes away, their careers will end.

Dr. Spencer really cuts to the heart of the matter here: The pushing of global warming orthodoxy is all about money and power, which should be clear to you - even if you don't understand the science - just by watching the behavior of politicians and activists and understanding what typically motivates them.

How many times have the climate frauds been caught lying/fudging data trying to advance their radical ideology.

No wonder the public is totally tuning them out.
 

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I'm stuck with another very difficult decision. Who do I believe?? NASA or real life retards like festeringZit, JDouche, and Sheriff Joe? Very difficult decision. Give me couple days to think about this.

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The year 2014 ranks as Earth’s warmest since 1880, according to two separate analyses by NASA and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) scientists.


The 10 warmest years in the instrumental record, with the exception of 1998, have now occurred since 2000. This trend continues a long-term warming of the planet, according to an analysis of surface temperature measurements by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) in New York.
In an independent analysis of the raw data, also released Friday, NOAA scientists also found 2014 to be the warmest on record.


“NASA is at the forefront of the scientific investigation of the dynamics of the Earth’s climate on a global scale,” said John Grunsfeld, associate administrator for the Science Mission Directorate at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “The observed long-term warming trend and the ranking of 2014 as the warmest year on record reinforces the importance for NASA to study Earth as a complete system, and particularly to understand the role and impacts of human activity.”





Since 1880, Earth’s average surface temperature has warmed by about 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degrees Celsius), a trend that is largely driven by the increase in carbon dioxide and other human emissions into the planet’s atmosphere. The majority of that warming has occurred in the past three decades.
“This is the latest in a series of warm years, in a series of warm decades. While the ranking of individual years can be affected by chaotic weather patterns, the long-term trends are attributable to drivers of climate change that right now are dominated by human emissions of greenhouse gases,” said GISS Director Gavin Schmidt.


While 2014 temperatures continue the planet’s long-term warming trend, scientists still expect to see year-to-year fluctuations in average global temperature caused by phenomena such as El Niño or La Niña. These phenomena warm or cool the tropical Pacific and are thought to have played a role in the flattening of the long-term warming trend over the past 15 years. However, 2014’s record warmth occurred during an El Niño-neutral year.


“NOAA provides decision makers with timely and trusted science-based information about our changing world,” said Richard Spinrad, NOAA chief scientist. “As we monitor changes in our climate, demand for the environmental intelligence NOAA provides is only growing. It's critical that we continue to work with our partners, like NASA, to observe these changes and to provide the information communities need to build resiliency.”
Regional differences in temperature are more strongly affected by weather dynamics than the global mean. For example, in the U.S. in 2014, parts of the Midwest and East Coast were unusually cool, while Alaska and three western states – California, Arizona and Nevada – experienced their warmest year on record, according to NOAA.


The GISS analysis incorporates surface temperature measurements from 6,300 weather stations, ship- and buoy-based observations of sea surface temperatures, and temperature measurements from Antarctic research stations. This raw data is analyzed using an algorithm that takes into account the varied spacing of temperature stations around the globe and urban heating effects that could skew the calculation. The result is an estimate of the global average temperature difference from a baseline period of 1951 to 1980.
NOAA scientists used much of the same raw temperature data, but a different baseline period. They also employ their own methods to estimate global temperatures.


GISS is a NASA laboratory managed by the Earth Sciences Division of the agency’s Goddard Space Flight Center, in Greenbelt, Maryland. The laboratory is affiliated with Columbia University’s Earth Institute and School of Engineering and Applied Science in New York.
NASA monitors Earth's vital signs from land, air and space with a fleet of satellites, as well as airborne and ground-based observation campaigns. NASA develops new ways to observe and study Earth's interconnected natural systems with long-term data records and computer analysis tools to better see how our planet is changing. The agency shares this unique knowledge with the global community and works with institutions in the United States and around the world that contribute to understanding and protecting our home planet.


http://www.nasa.gov/press/2015/january/nasa-determines-2014-warmest-year-in-modern-record/
 

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I'm stuck with another very difficult decision. Who do I believe?? NASA or real life retards like festeringZit, JDouche, and Sheriff Joe? Very difficult decision. Give me couple days to think about this.

They lied.

Next.
 

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