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But as Bogdanovich points out, you now have a Portland team getting big points in a letdown spot for Houston.

Houston players are human also, after that big first game win, they thought they were better than Portland. Tonight there is a tendency for Houston to relax just a bit, Portland will be the more motivated team and with the +4' or 5 by game time, you have the more motivated team getting too many points. Probability will line things up such: 1) The 3rd game scenario will most likely repeat itself. Houston will win but not cover 2) Portland will win straight up. 3) Houston wins and covers.


Probability never changes opinions do. If Portland would have won and covered that first game, we would not be having this learning opportunity.

Live and learn
 

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1st Round Results Going into Monday April 27th

Favorites are 21-9 (70%)Straight Up (SU)
Favorites are 13-16-1 (45%)Against the Spread (ATS)
Home Teams have gone 20-10 SU (66%)
Home Teams are 13-16-1 ATS (45%)
Home Favorites are 11-14-1 ATS (44%)
Home Dogs are 3-3 ATS (50%)
Road Dogs are 13-8-1 ATS (62%)

Road Favorites are 3-3 (50%)

The 'Over/Under' is 15-15 (50%)

Money Makers

Clev 4-0
Philly 4-0
Denver 3-0
Chicago 2-1-1

Money Burners
Det 0-4

Orlando 0-4
New Orl 0-3
Boston 1-2-1

OVERS
San Ant/Dall 3-1

Denver/NO 2-1

UNDERS
Clev/Det 3-1
Orl/Phil 3-1


Comments

Pointspread into play 8 times in 30 games (26%) Avg is 15%

UNDERS on a 12-2 Run last 4 days

OVERS were 13-3 before the 12-2 UNDER run

OV/UN 15/15


Leading category is the HM team Straight Up hitting 70% BUT only 45% ATS. If you like the HM team, ML is the way to go.

The pointspread has affected a particulary high 26% of the wagers, mostly its the HOME Team that wins (69%) but does not cover (45%) It also accounts for the RD DOGs hitting 62%
Portland +4.5 and Boston +3 were RD Dogs on Sunday and went 1-0-1. Atlanta+4 Denver+2 and the Jazz+12 are RD Dogs on Monday. Of the 3, Denver arguably the better team, is getting points and they are 3-0 ATS

Orlando who led the NBA with the most ATS wins in the regular season, has yet to win a game ATS in the Playoffs. Philly is 4-0 ATS.

You can see where the money is at. Have you bet any of the Money Makers? Bet any Home teams on the ML? Taken any RD Dogs with the points? Stayed away from the money burners? If not, you'll have till June to cash in on what is happening before your eyes.

Home Favorites have not been covering.

Manage your bankroll this goes through June. The playoffs are about picking your spots. The money is there.
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But as Bogdanovich points out, you now have a Portland team getting big points in a letdown spot for Houston.

Houston players are human also, after that big first game win, they thought they were better than Portland. Tonight there is a tendency for Houston to relax just a bit, Portland will be the more motivated team and with the +4' or 5 by game time, you have the more motivated team getting too many points. Probability will line things up such: 1) The 3rd game scenario will most likely repeat itself. Houston will win but not cover 2) Portland will win straight up. 3) Houston wins and covers.

Probability never changes opinions do. If Portland would have won and covered that first game, we would not be having this learning opportunity.

Live and learn


this should have worked for orlando as well, but for some reason they were not a DOG as they should have been in philly, or they would also have been in the same situation
 

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1st Round Results Going into Tuesday April 28th

Favorites are 21-12 (63%)Straight Up (SU)
Favorites are 13-19-1 (40%)Against the Spread (ATS)
Home Teams have gone 21-12 SU (55%)
Home Teams are 13-19-1 ATS (40%)
Home Favorites are 11-17-1 ATS (39%)
Home Dogs are 3-3 ATS (50%)
Road Dogs are 16-8-1 ATS (66%)

Road Favorites are 3-3 (50%)

The 'Over/Under' is 15-18 (54.5% UNDER)

Money Makers

Clev 4-0
Philly 4-0
Denver 4-0
Chicago 2-1-1

Money Burners
Det 0-4

Orlando 0-4
New Orl 0-4
Boston 1-2-1

OVERS
San Ant/Dall 3-1

Boston/Chicago 3-1

UNDERS
Clev/Det 3-1
Orl/Phil 3-1
Laker/Utah 3-2


Comments

Pointspread into play 9 times in 33 games (27%) Avg is 15%

UNDERS on a 15-2 Run last 5 days

OVERS were 13-3 before the 15-2 UNDER run

OV/UN 15/18


Leading category is the RD Dogs hitting 66%.

Home Favorites worst category at 39%.

Atlanta+4 Denver+2 and the Jazz+12 were RD Dogs on Monday. All won. Of the 3, Denver at 3-0 ATS was arguably the better team and was getting points, they won by 58 points, 60 if you add the 2 free points.

On Tuesday you have 4 RD Dogs that have a good shot at winning SU. Chicago+7.5, Philly Undefeated ATS and receiving +8.5 points, Dallas 3-1 in the series and with a chance to clinch getting +5 and Houston also leading 3-1 and also with a change to clinch getting 5.5. The dog has won every game in the HST/PORT series.

A little RD Dog 4 team parlay has a shot. On Tuesday betting all the RD Dogs separately looks like it will show a positive ROI.

Orlando who led the NBA with the most ATS wins in the regular season, has yet to win a game ATS in the Playoffs. Philly is 4-0 ATS.

You can see where the money is at. Have you bet any of the Money Makers? Bet any Home teams on the ML? Taken any RD Dogs with the points? Stayed away from the money burners? If not, you'll have till June to cash in on what is happening before your eyes.

Manage your bankroll this goes through June. The playoffs are about picking your spots. The money is there.

GL

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You were all over that Houston game and Denver with the 4th game trend. Nice job.
 

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]All credit to Ace-Ace who brought attention to this column to the Rx, 2 or 3 years ago. Thanks Ace[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DIRECT FROM NEVADA
WITH NICK BOGDANOVICH
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]HOW SHARPS HANDICAP GAMES 5-7 IN THE NBA PLAYOFFS[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We've reached the second week of the opening round in the NBA playoffs. That means you'll be dealing with Game Five, Game Six, and maybe a couple of Game Sevens in the next few days. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I wanted to spend today's article telling you how sharps (professional wagerers in Las Vegas) handicap those types of matchups. It might assist your thought process as you work through this week's challenges. I always want you to think like a sharp and bet like a sharp![/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The first and most obvious key is that sharps generally take the team that lost the last game if the price is affordable. History has shown that a team off a loss usually bounces back strong, and the team off a win relaxes just a bit too much. Obviously it doesn't always happen this way. And, it's become more common in recent years for the inferior team to lose Game Six at home after losing Game Five on the road. It's as if they know they won't win the next two games, so they get their golf clubs polished early. This tendency has spanked a lot of sharps![/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]That's created this general approach:[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Take the Game Four loser in Game Five as long as the price isn't exorbitant.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Cautiously take the Game Five loser in Game Six unless you're VERY confident that the team is going to keep fighting. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What qualifies as "exorbitant?" Let's go over that for a few seconds.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sharps generally prefer taking underdogs. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sharps don't mind laying small prices, particularly if they got in early before the market moved even higher. That's just as valuable as a dog in their eyes because they've got the best of the situation. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sharps are much more careful once you get up to -4 or -5 in playoff style basketball games. Their instincts are telling them to take the points. If history is telling them to take the favorite, they'll handle their betting units with caution no matter what they decide. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sharps tend not to lay -6 or higher in any sport unless they have VERY good reasons to do so. Those reasons do come up every so often. But, professional wagerers got that way by taking the points, not by hoping for blowouts. It takes something special to lay this kind of price.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]So, anything at six or higher is going to scare off a lot of sharps. They'll lay 4-5 points (or less) with a home team in a bounce back spot. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]An exception to just blindly playing the bounce back would be if the flow of the series has created more equality than the public realizes. Let's say a "public" team has home court advantage in a series...but it turns out that the underdog is every bit as good as the favorite (think of the Cleveland Cavaliers back when they were an underdog vs. teams like Detroit or Boston the last few years). Lines will reflect home court advantage, any potential bounce back, AND an extra point or two because the public loves betting the big name powers. Sharps will step in on an underdog then regardless of the bounce back history because free points are worth taking whenever you get them. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Go look up Cleveland's ATS record in the Eastern playoffs the past few years and you'll see why that's such a smart move. If the public really loves or believes in a team, the betting value is almost always going to be on their opponent. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Of course, Cleveland has grown into the "public" powerhouse now. It will be your job to see if any contenders truly measure up to them in the East, or the Lakers in the West in the coming days and weeks. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I definitely need to mention totals here too, because sharps made a killing in the past by focusing on UNDERS once you got to the later games in a series. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The sequence went something like this:[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In the distant past, sharps focused on Unders in Games 5, 6, and 7, and made a killing. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Oddsmakers started lowering the totals in Games 5, 6, and 7 as a result, but the sharps kept winning anyway![/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Oddsmakers lowered the numbers even more, and REALLY lowered the numbers in Game 7, which finally took away much but not all of the edge. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rules changes in the NBA a few years ago made it easier for scorers to get to the basket, which has helped eliminate many of the 74-72 type games we used to see. They're still around, but not as common. This took away even more of the edge. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]So...I would say there's still a general plan to look at Unders in the later games from the sharps. They're aware though that it's no longer a printing press or a Golden Goose. And, there are certain refs who have to get their faces on TV, which makes it hard for their games to go Under low totals. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In the past, taking the bounce back teams and taking the Unders in a week like this would have yielded a big profit. You didn't even have to follow basketball or know many of the players. Just betting the tendencies worked great. Sharps find the things that work great and use them! If I had been writing this article 10 years ago, that's what I would have been saying. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Right now, in 2009, you have to be a bit more careful. The market has priced in those old tendencies, and rules changes have changed the percentages around enough that it matters. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If the old stuff doesn't work as well, what should YOU do this week? [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Here are some keys to remember:[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The emphasis from smart teams in recent years is to get their series over with as quickly as possible. The value of rest can't be understated, particularly for veteran teams. Handicap with an understanding that the superior team is less likely than before to be flat in a fifth or sixth game. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The rules changes have made it possible for star players to carry teams through a series. If you're thinking about betting an underdog, make sure you've got a guy like that on the floor for you. There's nothing worse than watching your underdog bet die in the fourth quarter because nobody on your team has the confidence to take a shot! [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Squads who play the best "team defense" have a big advantage because they can slow down opposing slashers with proper rotations and double teams. The public still pays too much attention to offenses and star players. It was Boston and defense, not the Lakers and Kobe Bryant who won the championship last year...even though the Lakers were betting favorites in the series. Force yourself to pay more attention to defense rather than high fiving your buddies after a dunk. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Three-point shooting looks to be turning into a big factor. A great way to beat defensive rotations and double teams is to drain treys! We're seeing more winning teams get to 10, 11, or 12 makes in a game. It's not the losers firing away in desperation putting up all the treys. It's the winners trying to pull away to big leads. Three's have been a part of the picture since the line was drawn, but this dynamic is relatively new. Be careful investing in teams who aren't dangerous from long range. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you keep those notes in mind, I think you'll see events play out in a fairly predictive manner this week. The right teams will win and cover. Systems and strategies from the distant past will only work when the right teams are filling in the slots. [/FONT]
 

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1st Round Results Going into Wed. April 29th

Favorites are 24-13 (64.8%)Straight Up (SU)
Favorites are 15-21-1 (41%)Against the Spread (ATS)
Home Teams have gone 24-13 SU (64.8%)
Home Teams are 15-21-1 ATS (41%)
Home Favorites are 13-19-1 ATS (40%)
Home Dogs are 3-3 ATS (50%)
Road Dogs are 18-10-1 ATS (64%)

Road Favorites are 3-3 (50%)

The 'Over/Under' is 17-20 (54% UNDER)

Money Makers

Clev 4-0
Philly 4-1
Denver 4-0
Chicago 3-1-1

Money Burners
Det 0-4

Orlando 1-4
New Orl 0-4
Boston 1-3-1

OVERS
San Ant/Dall 3-2

Boston/Chicago 4-1

UNDERS
Clev/Det 3-1
Orl/Phil 3-1
Laker/Utah 3-2

Port/Hst 3-2

Comments

Pointspread into play 10 times in 37 games (27%) Avg is 15%

UNDERS on a 17-4 Run last 6 days. 2-2 Tuesday

OVERS were 13-3 before the 17-4 UNDER run

OV/UN 17/20


Leading category is the RD Dogs hitting 64%.

Home Favorites worst category at 40%.

You can see where the money is at. Have you bet any of the Money Makers? Bet any Home teams on the ML? Taken any RD Dogs with the points? Stayed away from the money burners? If not, you'll have till June to cash in on what is happening right before your eyes.

If you decide to bet a hot category, consider betting all games in that category rather than to trying to cherry pick.

Manage your bankroll this goes through June. The playoffs are about picking your spots. The money is there.

GL
 

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The San Ant/Dall OVERS above should read 4-1 nor 3-2.

Dallas should also be included in the Moneymakers category at 4-1
 

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1st Round Results Going into THURs.. April 30th

Favorites are 26-13 (66.6%)Straight Up (SU)
Favorites are 17-21-1 (44%)Against the Spread (ATS)
Home Teams have gone 26-13 SU (66.6%)
Home Teams are 17-21-1 ATS (44%)
Home Favorites are 15-19-1 ATS (44%)
Home Dogs are 3-3 ATS (50%)
Road Dogs are 18-12-1 ATS (60%)

Road Favorites are 3-3 (50%)

The 'Over/Under' is 18-21 (53.8% UNDER)

Money Makers

Denver 5-0
Clev 4-0
Philly 4-1
Dallas 4-1
Atlanta 3-2
Chicago 3-1-1

Money Burners
Det 0-4

Orlando 1-4
New Orl 0-5
Boston 1-3-1

OVERS
San Ant/Dall 4-1

Boston/Chicago 4-1

UNDERS
Clev/Det 3-1
Orl/Phil 4-1
Laker/Utah 3-2

Port/Hst 3-2
Denver/NO 3-2
Atl/Mia 3-2

Comments

Pointspread into play 10 times in 39 games (25%) Avg is 15%

UNDERS on a 19-6 Run last 7 days.

The purpose of this post is so that the reader can have an objective view of what is happening in the playoffs. Armed with the facts of what is ocurring, the reader can then reason objectively and leave the subjective opinions or guesses to the less informed. For example: You either back moneymakers or pass and you either bet against moneyburners or pass.

As Spock would say, "Betting moneyburners is illogical."

Can you see where the money is at? Have you bet any of the Money Makers? Bet any Home teams on the ML? Taken any RD Dogs with the points? Stayed away from the moneyburners or even better,bet against them? If not, you'll have till June to cash in on what is happening right before your eyes.

If you decide to bet a hot category, consider betting all games in that category rather than to trying to cherry pick.

Manage your bankroll this goes through June. The playoffs are about picking your spots. The money is there. GL
 

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Very informative thread OccamsRazor--very, very good thread!

Can I ask how you have been doing in the postseason and who or what you might be liking or leaning toward tonight?

:toast:
 

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Very informative thread OccamsRazor--very, very good thread!

Can I ask how you have been doing in the postseason and who or what you might be liking or leaning toward tonight?

:toast:

PLAYOFFS 2008/2009
YTD 7-6
SIDES 1-5
TOTALS 6-1


I've been bitten by the number twice on the Sides with HM Favorites, the other time the Dog won straight up. Totals are 6-1 with me betting as a guideline, the teams in the OVER category Over and betting teams in the UNDER categories Under.

For my reasoning on Thursdays games see my Wed Bet O The Day 4/29 post.

GL Ivan and remember the goal is to be ahead at the finish.
 

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1st Round Results Going into FRIDAY MAY 1st

Favorites are 27-15 (64%)Straight Up (SU)
Favorites are 18-23-1 (44%)Against the Spread (ATS)
Home Teams have gone 29-13 SU (69%)
Home Teams are 18-23-1 ATS (44%)
Home Favorites are 16-21-1 ATS (43%)
Home Dogs are 3-3 ATS (50%)
Road Dogs are 19-13-1 ATS (59%)

Road Favorites are 3-3 (50%)

The 'Over/Under' is 20-22 (52.3% UNDER)

Money Makers

Denver 5-0
Clev 4-0
Philly 4-2
Dallas 4-1
Atlanta 3-2
Chicago 3-2-1

Money Burners
Det 0-4

Orlando 2-4
New Orl 0-5
Boston 2-3-1

OVERS
San Ant/Dall 4-1

Boston/Chicago 5-1

UNDERS
Clev/Det 3-1
Orl/Phil 4-2
Laker/Utah 3-2

Port/Hst 4-2
Denver/NO 3-2
Atl/Mia 3-2

Comments

Atlanta RD DOG (59%) vs Miami HM FAV (43%). 6 out of 10 times Atlanta covers in this situation. You either back Atlanta in this situation or pass. Your call.

Pointspread into play 11 times in 42 games (26%) Avg is 15%

A much higher than expected pointspread determining the outcomes og games appears to be the linemaker adjusting HM Favorites up. HM teams that in the past were giving 3 are now giving 5 and losing by 4 on average.


The purpose of this post is so that the reader can have an objective view of what is happening in the playoffs. Armed with the facts of what is ocurring, the reader can then reason objectively and leave the subjective opinions or guesses to the less informed. For example: You either back moneymakers or pass and you either bet against moneyburners or pass.

Can you see where the money is at? Have you bet any of the Money Makers? Bet any Home teams on the ML? Taken any RD Dogs with the points? Stayed away from the moneyburners or even better, bet against them? If not, you'll have till June to cash in on what is happening right before your eyes.

If you decide to bet a hot category, consider betting all games in that category rather than to trying to cherry pick.

Manage your bankroll this goes through June. The playoffs are about picking your spots. The money is there. GL
 

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1st Round Results Going into Saturday MAY 2nd

Favorites are 28-15 (65%)Straight Up (SU)
Favorites are 19-23-1 (45%)Against the Spread (ATS)
Home Teams have gone 30-13 SU (69.7%)
Home Teams are 19-23-1 ATS (45%)
Home Favorites are 17-21-1 ATS (44%)
Home Dogs are 3-3 ATS (50%)
Road Dogs are 19-14-1 ATS (57.5%)

Road Favorites are 3-3 (50%)

The 'Over/Under' is 20-24 (54.5% UNDER)

Money Makers

Denver 5-0
Clev 4-0
Philly 4-2
Dallas 4-1
Chicago 3-2-1


Money Burners
Det 0-4

Orlando 2-4
New Orl 0-5
Boston 2-3-1

OVERS
San Ant/Dall 4-1

Boston/Chicago 5-1

UNDERS
Clev/Det 3-1
Atl/Mia 4-2
Orl/Phil 4-2
Laker/Utah 3-2

Port/Hst 4-2
Denver/NO 3-2


Comments

Game 7 Boston/Chicago

Objective views: Overs 5-1. Boston 2-3-1 ATS. HM FAVS ATS 44%. RD DOGS are 57.5% ATS.

Also:
Going into the playoffs we knew that the UNDER would dominate.

The UNDER is hitting at 54% but look at the categories only 2 Series in the OVER category versus 6 series in the UNDER.


Pointspread into play 11 times in 43 games (25%) Avg is 15%

A much higher than expected pointspread determining the outcomes of games appears to be the linemaker adjusting HM Favorites up. HM teams that in the past were giving 3 are now giving 5 and losing by 4 on average.


The purpose of this post is so that the reader can have an objective view of what is happening in the playoffs. Armed with the facts of what is ocurring, the reader can then reason objectively and leave the subjective opinions or guesses to the less informed. For example: You either back moneymakers or pass and you either bet against moneyburners or pass.

Can you see where the money is at? Have you bet any of the Money Makers? Bet any Home teams on the ML? Taken any RD Dogs with the points? Stayed away from the moneyburners or even better, bet against them? If not, you'll have till June to cash in on what is happening right before your eyes.

If you decide to bet a hot category, consider betting all games in that category rather than to trying to cherry pick.

Manage your bankroll this goes through June. The playoffs are about picking your spots. The money is there. GL
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How can road dogs and home favorites have two diff. sets of numbers, should'nt be the exact opposite? Also home favorites have 39 games and road dogs 34. Every home favorite is playing a road dog.
 

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I'm assuming that applies to teams like the Cavs and Lakers where they were favorites on the road while their opponents were the home underdogs.
 

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How can road dogs and home favorites have two diff. sets of numbers, should'nt be the exact opposite? Also home favorites have 39 games and road dogs 34. Every home favorite is playing a road dog.

First thank you for reading the post. I did it on purpose to see if anyone was reading... just kidding.

Yeah I went back, the problem starts on 4/24 even though the numbers are the exact opposite on 4/24 RD/DOGS + HM/FAVS they are wrong it should be HM FAVS 9-10 and RD DOGS 10-9 not 8-11 and 11-8.

On 4/25 the numbers stop being exactly the opposite. Must have been the tab of acid I took. I remember talking to the 7 asking him why he 8... 9 and him telling me a story about Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds...

I usually update things after midnight. I'll check everything over tonight. 2 games left in the first RD. I'll have the correct final tally.

We start anew in the 2nd RD.

Again thanks for catching it.
 

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