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goes to the ground i see bisping by late sub or dec. stays standing leben by tko

Bisping by Submission. Not a chance, Not his game! Not sure if you sjust pulled that out of the air or you know something we dont' from Bisping fight Bio.
 

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Way too much chalk to take for Bisping considering the line should be even at best. Look the UFC has been pushing Bisping because of the UK market. Not crazy about the competition he has been given, besides the Evans fight.
From interviews and pictures it looks like Leben is on a Qwest. He can take a punch and his grouund game and wrestling skills are at another level.
I really see leben knocking Bisping out, really do.


not too much of a leben fan. the guy has the right tools to be good but dont think his head is ever right. although he does look to be training hard for this one and im sure he is going to go for the knock out but think he will either burn himself out or slip up when being too agresive. i think of him more as a scrapper than a fighter by his over agrresive style. it can pay off but it can also get him in alot of trouble its gamble
i see bisping using some strategy with his extra hieght leben will have to come in to hit him and then bisping will take it to the ground. prolly the obvious prediction but i really think thats whats gonna happen

vera always seems to suprise me i bet agianst him the last few times and lost and since jardine hasnt been doin much lately except for the liddell win im going against him
 

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Tough calls in both Bisping and Vera fights , easily can go either way especially in Vera vs Jardine will depend who brings it that day .
 

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I don't know a lot of these guys, so no opinion on many of them. I do think Vera is a gift, Jardine is garbage IMO and unless he can stand outside jabbing and leg kicking away like he did against Chuck, he doesn't stand much of a chance against anyone. Vera should sub him out easily.
 

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Leben fo sho! I'll handicap the others when I have more time. Probably tomorrow.
 

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Well our boy Leben has corn rows and looks like an ass but I guess he just got tired of dying his hair or whatever. Maybe it's an Evan Tanner tribute. Who knows.

Either way, Leben by destruction.
 

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