U.S. Intercepted Libyan WMDs

[KMAN]

U.S. Intercepted Libyan WMDs

While many analysts are crediting the U.S.'s capture of Saddam Hussein for the decision by Libyan strongman Moammar Gadhafi to change his ways, it was actually the discovery by U.S. intelligence of a cache of Libya's WMDs that convinced the duplicitous dictator that the jig was up.

According to Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, "One thing that pushed Gadhafi over the top in making this deal was that we intercepted a ship on the high seas sometime in the summer or early fall that had weapons of mass destruction components being shipped to Libya."

Kristol told "Fox News Sunday" that the WMD seizure, which has gone unreported till now, was "the final straw in convincing Gadhafi that he wasn't going to get away with advancing his nuclear and other programs."

In October, after the WMD interdiction, the Libyan strongman permitted the CIA to inspect his facilities on the ground

U.S. inspectors were "surprised at how much they were able to see and surprised by how far Gadhafi had gotten, incidentally, in moving ahead on his weapons programs," Kristol said.

From that point, disarmament negotiations "moved quickly," he added.

 

[PatPatriot]

Once again the pacifist are wrong dead wrong...If you don't think that seeing Saddas getting lice pulled out of his hair by a GI doctor didn't get Khadaffy to say...mmmmmm maybe I better sign on the dotted line.
Then you been drinking to much of Susan Sarandons piss.

 

[D2bets]

Patriot, these negotiations have been going on in secret for many months. Saddam's capture had nothing to do with this, just happenstance that it was announced shortly after. Then again, maybe the timing was engineered just slightly by you know who.

I see this as a repudiation of the Bush doctrine. Negotiations and international pressure worked here, withou using force.

Actually, it's probably a good thing for Libya that they had WMD's. Otherwise when they claimed they didn't Bush wouldn't have believed them and he would have had us invade them to find the nonexistent WMD's.

 

[GrandSlam+]

D2, your dismissal of US/UK involvement in the Libya disarmament is laughable but certainly expected from such a rabid Bush-hater.
Gadhafi disagrees with you, by the way:

TRIPOLI, Libya (CNN) -- Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, in an exclusive interview with CNN, acknowledged Monday that the war in Iraq may have played a role in his decision to dismantle his country's weapons of mass destruction programs.


And here is the word from France:
France congratulated Britain and America yesterday for persuading Libya to surrender its weapons of mass destruction and admitted it had been kept in the dark throughout the talks.

Dominique de Villepin, the foreign minister, took his hat off to London and Washington's "exemplary" diplomatic efforts over the past few months that led to the Libyan leader Col Gaddafi's surprise announcement on Friday, calling it a victory for "the entire international community".

But he was forced to admit in Le Figaro that France knew nothing of the nine months of secret negotiations.

"We were not kept informed," M de Villepin said. His disclosure underlined the continuing mistrust in relations between the English-speaking powers and France, which made much of its opposition to war in Iraq.

 

[PatPatriot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I see this as a repudiation of the Bush doctrine. Negotiations and international pressure worked here, withou using force.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
D2..Susan Sarandons piss I might even take a slug of under certain circumstances...But Kofi Anans piss???...eeeww!!Reading Grand Slams post you can see it was the correct pressure and "negotiations" by coalition forces that made Libya come around not the the pygmies and France et all from the UN...This was work for the adults not the eyes and ears of the Berkley city council.

 

[SENDITIN]

Let's see...we've had sanctions on Libya since the early 90's and it just so happens that the MO man caves now...hmmmmmm...wonder if there's any link to what is going on in Iraq...

And it's amazing how Iran is now allowing inspection of its' nuclear facilities...hmmmm...

And I'll bet the good dentist who's running Syria starts to come around next!

And wouldn't it be great if we could convince Israel to dismantle its' WMD programs..that would be the icing on the cake.

 

[D2bets]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Grand Slam:
D2, your dismissal of US/UK involvement in the Libya disarmament is laughable but certainly expected from such a rabid Bush-hater.
Gadhafi disagrees with you, by the way:

TRIPOLI, Libya (CNN) -- Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, in an exclusive interview with CNN, acknowledged Monday that the war in Iraq may have played a role in his decision to dismantle his country's weapons of mass destruction programs.


And here is the word from France:
France congratulated Britain and America yesterday for persuading Libya to surrender its weapons of mass destruction and admitted it had been kept in the dark throughout the talks.

Dominique de Villepin, the foreign minister, took his hat off to London and Washington's "exemplary" diplomatic efforts over the past few months that led to the Libyan leader Col Gaddafi's surprise announcement on Friday, calling it a victory for "the entire international community".

But he was forced to admit in Le Figaro that France knew nothing of the nine months of secret negotiations.

"We were not kept informed," M de Villepin said. His disclosure underlined the continuing mistrust in relations between the English-speaking powers and France, which made much of its opposition to war in Iraq.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didn't dismiss the US/UK involvement, I simply said "Saddam's capture had nothing to do with it". It didn't. Your source there says the negotiations had been going on for 9 months. It proves that diplomacy can work. Maybe Libya was lucky they actually had WMD's to surrender. Maybe Iraq's problem was that they kept insisting that they didn't have any -- because apparently they didn't.

Even if I accepted that the war played a role in Libya's concessions, then I guess the logic goes something like...we had to invade a country that didn't have WMD's to prove to a country that did have WMD's that we are serious about eliminating WMD's. Interesting logic.

 

[PatPatriot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Even if I accepted that the war played a role in Libya's concessions, then I guess the logic goes something like...we had to invade a country that didn't have WMD's to prove to a country that did have WMD's that we are serious about eliminating WMD's. Interesting logic <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
D2...The UN and 17 resolutions agreed they had WMD's...HE DID IN FACT have WMD,ask the 15000 dead Kurds that died of mustard gas.

 

[codeworks]

I bet all you Bush wackers would like to change that title to say "Iraq WMD's were intercepted"

 

[D2bets]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Even if I accepted that the war played a role in Libya's concessions, then I guess the logic goes something like...we had to invade a country that didn't have WMD's to prove to a country that did have WMD's that we are serious about eliminating WMD's. Interesting logic <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
D2...The UN and 17 resolutions agreed they had WMD's...HE DID IN FACT have WMD,ask the 15000 dead Kurds that died of mustard gas.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, he HAD WMD's then. Of course we know that because we helped Iraq acquire them. But did he have them when we invaded? There is no proof that they did, none have been found and the chief inspector wants to give up.

 

[PeteRoseJR]

BUSH DOES A GOOD JOB --TO BAD THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT PULLED THE SHOOT WORSE THAN THE RAIDERS THIS YEAR.


BRAD
CANADA

 

[PatPatriot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Yes, he HAD WMD's then. Of course we know that because we helped Iraq acquire them. But did he have them when we invaded? There is no proof that they did, none have been found and the chief inspector wants to give up. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There is proof. Sadass handed over documents of the proof,and made the claim he destroyed them, but never handed over the proof of their destruction....Leaving the UN and everyone else the conclusion that Sadams claims and action were contrary to what he said.They also had scientist and relitives swearing he wmd.

 

[KMAN]

I don't even bother responding to them anymore. I just provide article after article (fact after fact) and let them bitch and complain about the facts.

KMAN